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Besides Nova, name a non FBS level school that has won the NCAA B.B. championship in the past 15 years. Going back even further, you need to go to the 1980’s except for Uconn in 1999. Those are facts.

Nova also hit their absolute high water mark as a program in doing so, and this season shows that what they had may not be sustainable.

This doesn’t even get into how mediocre the conference is outside of them (and arguably Xavier - although with Mack gone...).
 
Yeah, it’s called following college sports and observing that every collective action the P5 takes is geared around a split.

Without a football team, the door to the P5 is closed forever. Nobody who wants to close that door before someone else closes it for us is an actual UConn fan.

Again, you’re not a UConn fan if you want the athletic department to give up and resign itself to lower-tier competition.

So I should take your observations as facts? I guess watching that an embarrassment of football you didn't observe very well then. I think closing the door early is smart so we don't get put into a situation where we lose out again, no P5 is taking the football program as is and it's not going to get better ever. That's a fact.
 
So I should take your observations as facts? I guess watching that an embarrassment of football you didn't observe very well then. I think closing the door early is smart so we don't get put into a situation where we lose out again, no P5 is taking the football program as is and it's not going to get better ever. That's a fact.
No that's an opinion. The program has been better and must improve from where its at.
 
The radio host is right our football team is a joke and needs to be downgraded forever. Go back to the Big East so we can be in a geographically better conference. End of story.
Not really, for the reasons that have been discussed her ad nauseum.

In breif, for us to compete with the other major schools we need to play football as the P5 (a football term) is where the money is. Otherwise we will eventually be priced out of decent coaches and competitive facilities for all sports. Yes, that includes basketball.

Yeah football struggled this year playing virtually all underclassmen on defense. It was a painful investment in the future.

Quick question were you stumping for basketball to be shut down last year? It had it's second straight losing season and set a school record for twenty point losses.

"The way things are is the way they will always be" is the refuge of tiny minds.
 
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Yeah class of 2010 and born in 1986.
Ok, then you should know what UConn has set as goals. The Big East in no way whatsoever contributes to that. All that is expected of us is a competent football program. Unfortunately, your post graduate run has been horrible. Otherwise, we have a respectable history and are working to maintain it. All we need is a head coach. Randy Edsall just might not be the right one. Look at what Temple is now. Forward thinking. They don't give up and have more reason to do so than us. Same as for many other AAC members. Difference, we have spoiled babies, they have resilient minded fanbases. Including USF and Cinci. We have the only one who act like spoiled kids.

FWIW, I graduated in 97, 2 years before we went FBS. Plenty of great moments up till the Michigan game. And the win over Houston with Dikko.
 
So I should take your observations as facts? I guess watching that an embarrassment of football you didn't observe very well then. I think closing the door early is smart so we don't get put into a situation where we lose out again, no P5 is taking the football program as is and it's not going to get better ever. That's a fact.

Screw that. You don’t care one bit about UConn athletics. It’s an embarrassment to this school that you claim to be a UConn fan.

“Closing the door early is smart?” You’re a BC, Cuse, or Pitt fan here in disguise. Take your trolling elsewhere.
 
So I should take your observations as facts? I guess watching that an embarrassment of football you didn't observe very well then. I think closing the door early is smart so we don't get put into a situation where we lose out again, no P5 is taking the football program as is and it's not going to get better ever. That's a fact.
We get it. You dont like football. What did you you say about UCF football when they went 0-13 not that many years ago? Should they have shut down football?
Last year many were calling them the real national champs over Alabama when they were 13-0. Things can change in a very short time.
What did you say when we beat ND in football?
Did you go to the Michigan game? It was electric and we had a great shot at winning. Also had a shot at winning at Michigan too.
 
Do you have a crystal ball that shows the power 5 is going to break off? It's time to face facts the football team will never help us get into a P5 anyway, that's a fact. The football team is embarrassing, that's fact.
We need to stop living on a dream that is never going to happen.
You argue about not predicting the future, then predict UConn football can't win, and will never win.
Do you see the flaw in your logic? I do.
 
The radio host is right our football team is a joke and needs to be downgraded forever. Go back to the Big East so we can be in a geographically better conference. End of story.
BY06518, why not stay off the football forum? You are not contributing to the future of UConn football - and really, you are NOT contributing to UConn Athletics. If we go into the Big East, our basketball teams will be hurt, since the BIG EAST, should be called the Big LEAST. It is NOT THE SAME CONFERENCE that we were in.
 
We get it. You dont like football. What did you you say about UCF football when they went 0-13 not that many years ago? Should they have shut down football?
Last year many were calling them the real national champs over Alabama when they were 13-0. Things can change in a very short time.
What did you say when we beat ND in football?
Did you go to the Michigan game? It was electric and we had a great shot at winning. Also had a shot at winning at Michigan too.

I was in the Big House for that game and we could and should have won if we played aggressively the whole game. I felt the wrong vibe right from the start when our team came strolling out from the locker room with arms linked. Michigan came out fired up and ready to explode.
 
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No major school quits football, ever. That is the nail in the coffin. Then you might as well go DIII and become an academic institution. Once you've made the jump you need to stay there as there is no turning back.

...and UConn is not being invited to the Ivy league anytime soon.
 
I don’t understand why everyone is saying drop football. We knew when randy came in he said we had to rebuild and get players that work with the system in a press conference. It sucks yes but it will pay off. Even if they suck for two more years they will find a way to get this boat rocking. I rather build up a team a right way then keep going down the wrong path. Our time will come I’m not too worried about it
 
The Assistant AD at Kansas talks about realignment, football....will sound familiar to boneyarders.

Captured in a KU blog....

“We have conference realignment coming up,” Baty cautioned. “We have to show that we care about football. We have to show that we have the resources. We have to show that we have the winning product on the field.”

He also tells fans/donors not to be part of the problem....

Williams Fund boss Matt Baty instructs KU donors on how not to be 'part of the problem' | Lunch Break
 
Not true whatsoever. During our "average" years (2003-2013), UConn drew at or near capacity. No surprise that attendance has been in a free fall afterwards, when the Diacopolypse started taking hold.

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Honestly, these type of misinformed posts don't do UConn any good whatsoever. And with the light posting history from this poster, I have the sick feeling that I'm just feeding some Big East troll.
Agreed! I went to a boat load of games in the hay-day of UCONN football. It was amazing! High energy, fun, just awesome. Edsall sometimes put me to sleep with his run heavy O, but I long for those days now.
 
The Assistant AD at Kansas talks about realignment, football....will sound familiar to boneyarders.

Captured in a KU blog....

“We have conference realignment coming up,” Baty cautioned. “We have to show that we care about football. We have to show that we have the resources. We have to show that we have the winning product on the field.”

He also tells fans/donors not to be part of the problem....

Williams Fund boss Matt Baty instructs KU donors on how not to be 'part of the problem' | Lunch Break

He showed that Kansas cares about football with the Les Miles hire. And, he's perfectly right about the fans/donors.
 
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The Assistant AD at Kansas talks about realignment, football....will sound familiar to boneyarders.

Captured in a KU blog....

“We have conference realignment coming up,” Baty cautioned. “We have to show that we care about football. We have to show that we have the resources. We have to show that we have the winning product on the field.”

He also tells fans/donors not to be part of the problem....

Williams Fund boss Matt Baty instructs KU donors on how not to be 'part of the problem' | Lunch Break

Good post.

We can all debate whether or not Les Miles will be successful at Kansas. He may be; he may not be. Honestly, that's not the most important aspect to Kansas' CR profile. What is most important - and UConn & UConn fans struggle to realize this time and time again - is that Kansas is making a very significant statement that they want to win football games. Will they? Who knows. But hiring Miles and putting $300M towards a football stadium/facility reno project is a very serious commitment to football and something that will not go unnoticed by the Old Money Club, should Kansas' spot in a P5/P4 world come into question.

In my opinion, I think Kansas will be Texas' eventual +1 to go the B1G at the next CR cycle...not Oklahoma. Kansas is AAU, their hoops program is a top 5-10 (plus Naismith history), and this investment in football is HUGE. Would make for a better geographic fit for Nebraska, Iowa, Minnesota, and Wisconsin. And God forbid that their investment in Miles and the stadium/facility expansion actually nets results (wins). They'd easily leapfrog Oklahoma, who is not AAU.

But you'll have to excuse me, I have to go back to arguing with supposed UConn fans who think dropping football to cement ourselves to a small private Catholic school basketball conference is a good idea. Head bang
 
So what does FSU football have anything to do with the future of UConn football?

It was a horrible joke/comparison.
FSU was once a female teachers' school.

Not difficult to envision how upper education is taking shape.
 
Ahhhh...but the pertinent ranking...

No. 1 ranked master's degree program in Sport Management in the nation, College Choice, 2018.
 
UAB dropped football....at the insistance of their President.....after the CarrSports Consulting report recommended closing it due to the cost versus return.

And after two seasons without, they undid their mistake and reinstated the program.
 
Dropping football to join the C7 is outrageously stupid. The new Big Least is turning into Nova and the nobodies, buried on Fox, dying a slow death as AAC basketball gains on them every year and will soon pass them in the pecking order. No thanks, UCONN should stay in the same conference it has been in since 1979 until a better offer comes our way not a worse one.

That said I wouldn't mind seeing the AAC add two more basketball only schools, VCU and UMASS basketball only would be awesome additions. Maybe the AAC could guarantee UMASS a certain number of football games ever year.

When the football playoffs goes to 8 it will increase the value of AAC football.
 
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The radio host is right our football team is a joke and needs to be downgraded forever. Go back to the Big East so we can be in a geographically better conference. End of story.
Joining the Big East and dropping football will be an incredibly stupid move for UConn, in ten years non P5 basketball teams will be facing the same problems that non P5 football teams are facing now. The Big East is a dieing conference, as Dave Gavitt said many years ago the Big East Catholic basketball only schools will rue the day for voting against adding Penn State in football and all other sports. UConn basketball actually will need UConn FBS football going forward if it wants stay on the national stage. People clamoring for dropping football or going back to FCS do not have a clue. If Nova basketball wants to survive in the coming years they need to as has been discussed for years to finally upgrade their very good football program to FBS and apply to the AAC for membership.
 
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We get it. You dont like football. What did you you say about UCF football when they went 0-13 not that many years ago? Should they have shut down football?
Last year many were calling them the real national champs over Alabama when they were 13-0. Things can change in a very short time.
What did you say when we beat ND in football?
Did you go to the Michigan game? It was electric and we had a great shot at winning. Also had a shot at winning at Michigan too.

Of course it was. We were playing at night.
 
Dropping football to join the C7 is outrageously stupid. The new Big Least is turning into Nova and the nobodies, buried on Fox, dying a slow death as AAC basketball gains on them every year and will soon pass them in the pecking order. No thanks, UCONN should stay in the same conference it has been in since 1979 until a better offer comes our way not a worse one.

That said I wouldn't mind seeing the AAC add two more basketball only schools, VCU and UMASS basketball only would be awesome additions. Maybe the AAC could guarantee UMASS a certain number of football games ever year.

When the football playoffs goes to 8 it will increase the value of AAC football.

I'm on board with the AAC (though my post history during the bitter end of last season may have had me clamoring for an end to football) but the absolute last thing this league needs is more mouths to feed.

UMass? They've made what 1 tournament in 20 seasons? We should work with the 12 we have and go from there
 
Good post.

We can all debate whether or not Les Miles will be successful at Kansas. He may be; he may not be. Honestly, that's not the most important aspect to Kansas' CR profile. What is most important - and UConn & UConn fans struggle to realize this time and time again - is that Kansas is making a very significant statement that they want to win football games. Will they? Who knows. But hiring Miles and putting $300M towards a football stadium/facility reno project is a very serious commitment to football and something that will not go unnoticed by the Old Money Club, should Kansas' spot in a P5/P4 world come into question.

In my opinion, I think Kansas will be Texas' eventual +1 to go the B1G at the next CR cycle...not Oklahoma. Kansas is AAU, their hoops program is a top 5-10 (plus Naismith history), and this investment in football is HUGE. Would make for a better geographic fit for Nebraska, Iowa, Minnesota, and Wisconsin. And God forbid that their investment in Miles and the stadium/facility expansion actually nets results (wins). They'd easily leapfrog Oklahoma, who is not AAU.

But you'll have to excuse me, I have to go back to arguing with supposed UConn fans who think dropping football to cement ourselves to a small private Catholic school basketball conference is a good idea. Head bang

Many whine about not making the cut when the B1G took Rutgers and ACC went Louisville.

I was the lonely soul watching Rutgers upgrading the High Point (or whatever they call it) and Louisville showing unbelievable muni malfeasance in their PapaJohn & YUM capital expenditures. But ... that ... my friends ... was the bell ringing/the gate open for the race to the Approval: we had new Rentschler but a fundraising push to get to 50,000 and other more simple things than LOUISVILLE or RUTGERS did could have made a difference. That, is the essence to what this Kansas AD is articulating.

And that AAU designation? Everyone talks academics; then Louisville got raised up. And the academics won't prohibit the lesser schools to UCONN (Memphis, UCF, USF etc) from being considered.

It is a crazy mixed up world; we need to fix Football.

Then, the talk about dropping football ... like Tampa or Long Beach or Pacific (even Northeastern, BU, Hofstra): Guess what - none of those schools are profiled like this State Flagship. 45 schools have upgraded since 1994. Are they all dumb? Maybe year to year deficits (when you already have the infrastructure of a major P5 type) is not the argument you should spout.
 
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