Conference Re-alignment Bombshell

[huskyrob1]

I'll play this game because I'm a glutton for punishment. If geographic reasons are primary, UConn, Temple, and maybe Cincy make sense.

Last time I think teams from Ohio could have been near the Atlantic Coast was back during the early Cretaceous. Lol

 

[MattMang23]

Aren't BC and Syracuse still in that league? Not happening. Besides, UMass, URI and Delaware would seem like viable, geographic alternatives for Fr. Leahy to propose.

 

[don356]

Is the Virginia booster named George Washington?

 

[Dream Jobbed 2.0]

Is the Virginia booster named George Washington?

His license plate on his benz was TJEFF76

 

[Huskybite]

It's all I got

 

[History Geek]

Last time I think teams from Ohio could have been near the Atlantic Coast was back during the early Cretaceous. Lol

True, but they would be closer to the Atlantic than Louisville and ND, so that ship has sailed already.

 

[Exit 4]

All ya gotta do is figure out who is going to bring another 75$ million a year to the party. Should be easy!

Ah dang - a soul crushing financial reality check! And I am sure ESPN has plenty of cash - right? right? right?
The only way anything happens is if the new members agree to no step up in comp until the current media deal ends. In essence, you can join, help us round out the geography but we arent sharing under our current deal.

 

[shizzle787]

Now that I think about it it is possible. Here's why: the ACC is going to a 20-game conference schedule in basketball in 2019. That means everyone will lose one more game on average (lowering the number of teams in the tournament). However, if they were to expand by 2 (us and Cincy), they could regularly get 9-11 teams in the dance. As far as football is concerned, they will now have some more body bag games and would just go to a nine-game schedule to keep pace with the Big 12, Pac 12 and B1G.

 

[The Funster]

I don't think CR is going to be tied to conventional TV/cable revenue in the future. I think the conferences know that model has a finite shelf life so they are looking beyond the noses on their face. You'd want your properties in as many big population centers as possible so assuming UConn, Temple and Cincy, you sure have a lot of eyeballs in major population centers from Florida to New England and then west into Ohio and Kentucky.

 

[justgoplay]

Now that I think about it it is possible. Here's why: the ACC is going to a 20-game conference schedule in basketball in 2019. That means everyone will lose one more game on average (lowering the number of teams in the tournament). However, if they were to expand by 2 (us and Cincy), they could regularly get 9-11 teams in the dance. As far as football is concerned, they will now have some more body bag games and would just go to a nine-game schedule to keep pace with the Big 12, Pac 12 and B1G.

I am a Cincinnati fan, and like you guys I take all this realignment stuff with a block of salt.....UC and UCONN to the ACC would be a freakin' life saving dream scenario from our perspective. We are playing our home basketball games at Northern Kentucky University next season because our building is getting an 87 million dollar upgrade. If you know anything about Cincinnati, you know we are some cheap bastards. For us to spend that kind of money when our home schedule only has one or two games a year worth getting excited about is very out of character for us. Maybe something is in the works, maybe not. Keep hope alive!!!

 

[huskyrob1]

True, but they would be closer to the Atlantic than Louisville and ND, so that ship has sailed already.

I guess it's true for all the expansion teams. Lol

 

[MASSconn]

Other than Cincinnati who on earth would they take?? Temple?? Makes little sense.

 

[shizzle787]

Other than Cincinnati who on earth would they take?? Temple?? Makes little sense.

Cincy and us. No one else.

 

[pick6s]

UConn, Temple, and Cincinnati would be candidates assuming this rumor is true. I wouldn't be surprised if Temple gets more consideration than we think due to Norte Dame (probably) liking the idea of an ACC team in Philly and the ACC in general having a big geographical hole in the population-heavy region between VA and Boston.

 

[huskypantz]

I am a Cincinnati fan, and like you guys I take all this realignment stuff with a block of salt.....UC and UCONN to the ACC would be a freakin' life saving dream scenario from our perspective. We are playing our home basketball games at Northern Kentucky University next season because our building is getting an 87 million dollar upgrade. If you know anything about Cincinnati, you know we are some cheap bastards. For us to spend that kind of money when our home schedule only has one or two games a year worth getting excited about is very out of character for us. Maybe something is in the works, maybe not. Keep hope alive!!!

I'd gladly give up a year's worth of home games at Northern Kentucky University for an ACC invite. Norse Pride!

 

[Matrim55]

Other than Cincinnati who on earth would they take?? Temple?? Makes little sense.

Temple is smack dab in Philly, has a huge alumni base and is a pretty natural bridge between the northernmost southern school (Virginia) and the old Big East members (Syracuse, BC and – hopefully – us).

Temple has a TON of upside as an add. And it goes without saying that all 3 schools would take like 1/10th of a payout for the first decade if that's what was required to get the deal done.

 

[huskyrob1]

Temple is smack dab in Philly, has a huge alumni base and is a pretty natural bridge between the northernmost southern school (Virginia) and the old Big East members (Syracuse, BC and – hopefully – us).

Temple has a TON of upside as an add. And it goes without saying that all 3 schools would take like 1/10th of a payout for the first decade if that's what was required to get the deal done.

How is Temple on academic ranking? I don't know myself, just asking.

 

[Adios]

Temple is smack dab in Philly, has a huge alumni base and is a pretty natural bridge between the northernmost southern school (Virginia) and the old Big East members (Syracuse, BC and – hopefully – us).

Temple has a TON of upside as an add. And it goes without saying that all 3 schools would take like 1/10th of a payout for the first decade if that's what was required to get the deal done.

And their alumni will start going to football games!

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/temple-university-3371/overall-rankings

 

[huskymedic]

And their alumni will start going to football games!

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/temple-university-3371/overall-rankings

Improving every year. This came out the other day (Graduate):

 

[CoastAtlantic]

This came out today: Equity in Athletics

To compare, here are the numbers:

From Equity in Athletics website, total AD Revenues for reporting year ended 6/30/16.

American Athletic Conference

01.) University of Connecticut - $79,267,924
02.) Southern Methodist University - $56,909,290
03.) Tulane University of Louisiana - $53,141,211
04.) University of Central Florida - $52,317,442
05.) University of Houston - $50,886,777
06.) Temple University - $50,886,490
07.) University of Memphis - 49,849,343
08.) University of South Florida - $48,405,192
09.) University of Cincinnati - $43,367,493
10.) East Carolina University - $43,045,337
11.) University of Tulsa - $40,465,787
12.) Navy - Not Available


Atlantic Coast Conference

01.) Florida State University - $123,334,314
02.) University of Louisville - $112,146,501
03.) University of Virginia - $100,632,835
04.) Clemson University - $95,800,326
05.) Duke University - $91,971,836
06.) University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill - $90,969,518
07.) University of Miami - $85,615,972
08.) Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University - $84,064,779
09.) Syracuse University - $82,676,041
10.) North Carolina State University at Raleigh - $80,225,029
11.) University of Pittsburgh - $75,273,117
12.) Boston College - $71,314,082
13.) Georgia Institute of Technology - $62,360,693
14.) Wake Forest University - $62,053,971


UConn would be between NC State and Pitt just from their current media contract, but I imagine that they'd rank much higher with a P5 budget. They'd be in the ranks of Kansas or Duke in no time.

 

[Sea Goat]

How is Temple on academic ranking? I don't know myself, just asking.

What the difference does that make? You're talking about a conference that added Louisville!

FWIW, I suggest we don't legitimize this trolling any further. Motion to terminate this thread - any seconds?

 

[Tenspro2002]

The number 18 is unwieldy for a football schedule....if you have divisions...and a CCG

Essentially, two round robin divisions (almost like separate conferences) with teams that hardly ever meet outside of a championship game.

If the NCAA had allowed the ACC request to deregulate how the conference determines a champion, pods would work, But the Big 10 led the charge to squash that attempted deregulation and I don't see it reopening.

I could see 16 as workable for scheduling...essentially adding a ninth conference game to the current eight total.

You could make a 9-game conference schedule work with either 16 or 18.

Two round-robin divisions and either 2 or 1 crossover games between divisions.

 

[billybud]

There is a lot of schedule "push back" right now in the ACC....

1....four teams have opposed a 9 game schedule because they are tied into a yearly SEC rivalry game and also play Notre Dame every three years....and thus, the measure has failed in voting.

2....there is unhappiness that you see teams, that are not the permanent crossover, from the opposing division so seldom..example...FSU plays GT (their closest and oldest rival) once every 12 years in Tallahassee. Clemson fans see Miami in Clemson once every 12 years and NC state hosts Duke once every 12 years.

3...going to round robin 9 team divisions is like having two separate conferences with little play between the two....that probably will not fly.

4...The reason that the ACC wanted clearance to have a CCG yet schedule the champion designation with flexibility...is that the conference was trying to attack the scheduling problems that currently exist (explore pods that allow more play between teams than the current structure).


ACC ADs vote to keep current schedule format

 

[junglehusky]

 

[Slasher]

This came out today: Equity in Athletics

To compare, here are the numbers:

From Equity in Athletics website, total AD Revenues for reporting year ended 6/30/16.

American Athletic Conference

01.) University of Connecticut - $79,267,924
02.) Southern Methodist University - $56,909,290
03.) Tulane University of Louisiana - $53,141,211
04.) University of Central Florida - $52,317,442
05.) University of Houston - $50,886,777
06.) Temple University - $50,886,490
07.) University of Memphis - 49,849,343
08.) University of South Florida - $48,405,192
09.) University of Cincinnati - $43,367,493
10.) East Carolina University - $43,045,337
11.) University of Tulsa - $40,465,787
12.) Navy - Not Available


Atlantic Coast Conference

01.) Florida State University - $123,334,314
02.) University of Louisville - $112,146,501
03.) University of Virginia - $100,632,835
04.) Clemson University - $95,800,326
05.) Duke University - $91,971,836
06.) University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill - $90,969,518
07.) University of Miami - $85,615,972
08.) Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University - $84,064,779
09.) Syracuse University - $82,676,041
10.) North Carolina State University at Raleigh - $80,225,029
11.) University of Pittsburgh - $75,273,117
12.) Boston College - $71,314,082
13.) Georgia Institute of Technology - $62,360,693
14.) Wake Forest University - $62,053,971


UConn would be between NC State and Pitt just from their current media contract, but I imagine that they'd rank much higher with a P5 budget. They'd be in the ranks of Kansas or Duke in no time.

There's no way this is accurate. SMU has pathetic football attendance and a tiny basketball arena. Unless they're considering student fees as revenue.