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Conference Award Predictions

I liked that freshman kid Masseny Kara from UCF.
 
HuskyNan said:
I liked that freshman kid Masseny Kara from UCF.
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Kaba? Yes, she's good. Pretty much their X factor. When she plays well they are very tough.
 
triaddukefan said:
Nobody else wanted to play the game :oops:

@DefenseBB ???
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I think both Brown and Arike are very good players, I just think in the big games, Durr has performed significantly better than either of these two. Add in the fact Louisville has been a legitimate national story and my view is she wins the ACC POY. I gave my perspective in my note back to Orangutan, I didn’t realize I needed to apply directly...
 
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DefenseBB said:
My sincerest apologies, as I really did not mean to incite you, but you did mention you could see it going another way and with Louisville winning the league, I just don't see it that way. Add in the dialogue from the game yesterday and I have a hair trigger on Arike. I just see her with tremendous talent who disappears at crucial points in games. 4th qtr vs. UConn, 1-5 fg, 3 points and this was after she started out great but with the game in the balance, she did not live up to the expectations a POY needs to. So I noted what most voters should, in the head to head Arike did not play well and Durr has been pretty great against the top teams at the time they played them-tOSU-47 pts; Oregon-26 pts; Duke-22 pts; UConn-20 pts. Durr's lone exception was FSU with 11 points.

Within the thread, I also wanted to point out to the collective group that yes, Muffet has been very good this year but it's not like she is doing this with mirrors, she is not bereft of talent. So inadvertently, you became collateral damage...sorry.
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Apology accepted :)

First of all, let the record reflect that ND and Louisville shared the regular season conference title :cool:

I don't necessarily think Durr isn't deserving. Just that there's an argument for both Lexie Brown and Ogunbowale (see above blind resume post)) but I think Durr is the biggest star from a media perspective so the others have no chance.

Re anti-ND bias in the awards: in McBride's senior year, she won the coaches POY but the media chose Alyssa Thomas. Two years ago, the coaches picked Turner, but the media picked Hines-Allen. The only ND player to win the media POY is Loyd in 2015. So I definitely think the coaches' awards are friendlier to ND than the media awards. Alas, it is the media awards that are the official ones (the ones that appear in the media guide, at least).
 
bballnut90 said:
Here's mine for the top 5 + AAC:

SEC:
POY-Victoria Vivians, Mississippi State
COY-Vic Schaefer, Mississippi State
FOY-Chennedy Carter, Texas A&M

I think it'll be a shame if it goes to Wilson over Vivians. Mississippi State put together the SEC's first undefeated regular season in 20 years, and they finished 4 games ahead of South Carolina.


ACC:
POY-Asia Durr, Louisville
COY-Muffett McGraw, Notre Dame
FOY-???

No idea who are standout freshmen in this conference.

Big Ten:
POY-Kelsey Mitchell, Ohio State
COY-Marlene Stollings, Minnesota
FOY-Sidney Cooks, Michigan State

Big 12:
POY-Kalani Brown, Baylor
COY-Kim Mulkey, Baylor
FOY-Alexis Morris, Baylor

I don't know enough about the other freshmen in the conference...Morris has good numbers though for Baylor

Pac 12:
POY: Sabrina Ionescu, Oregon
COY: Kelly Graves, Oregon
FOY: Satou Sabally, Oregon


AAC:
POY: Katie Lou Samuelson, Connecticut
COY: Geno Auriemma, Connecticut
FOY: ?? No idea. One of you can help me with this one.
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What about the freshman from temple? Mia Davis. She’s got a good shot of ROY for the AAC
 
Orangutan said:
Apology accepted :)

First of all, let the record reflect that ND and Louisville shared the regular season conference title :cool:

I don't necessarily think Durr isn't deserving. Just that there's an argument for both Lexie Brown and Ogunbowale (see above blind resume post)) but I think Durr is the biggest star from a media perspective so the others have no chance.

Re anti-ND bias in the awards: in McBride's senior year, she won the coaches POY but the media chose Alyssa Thomas. Two years ago, the coaches picked Turner, but the media picked Hines-Allen. The only ND player to win the media POY is Loyd in 2015. So I definitely think the coaches' awards are friendlier to ND than the media awards. Alas, it is the media awards that are the official ones (the ones that appear in the media guide, at least).
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Thank you for accepting as I truly did only mean to point out Durr’s exploits. Now you are also astute enough to know as is Triad, that stats do not tell the whole story. In the ACC KLS is 6th in scoring and yet she will be player of the year and not Laksa or Jesperson or Harris. The other consideration is minutes per game- Lexie averages 35min, Arike 33.4 and Durr is at 30.0 so times 29 games that’s 145 min more on the floor for Ms. Brown and for Arike, that’s about 100 minutes more on the floor. Again, both are very good players and should receive AA honorable mention, Durr will probably be on the 10 team WBCA team.
 
DefenseBB said:
Thank you for accepting as I truly did only mean to point out Durr’s exploits. Now you are also astute enough to know as is Triad, that stats do not tell the whole story. In the ACC KLS is 6th in scoring and yet she will be player of the year and not Laksa or Jesperson or Harris. The other consideration is minutes per game- Lexie averages 35min, Arike 33.4 and Durr is at 30.0 so times 29 games that’s 145 min more on the floor for Ms. Brown and for Arike, that’s about 100 minutes more on the floor. Again, both are very good players and should receive AA honorable mention, Durr will probably be on the 10 team WBCA team.
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Yeah....and if Durr would have played those 100 more minutes... she would have picked up maybe 3 more assists and 2 more rebounds and steals :rolleyes::rolleyes::cool::confused::eek::D
 
DefenseBB said:
The other consideration is minutes per game
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That's why the stats I posted were per 40 minutes.

On a per-minute basis, Durr (Player A) gets fewer rebounds, fewer assists, and fewer steals than either of the other two.
 
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triaddukefan said:
Lemme stop bad mouthing Durr.. in case she lurks on here an might be inclined to drop 60 on Duke on Saturday :oops:
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We are, indeed, flying awfully close to the sun.

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nwhoopfan said:
Bold prediction w/ Gulich! It's gonna be pretty hard to give the POY to anyone other than Ionescu. Led the conference in scoring and assists for the team that won the league outright. Kinda hate to see the Ducks get a clean sweep, but can't think of any other Fr. that would get it and I think Graves earned COY as much as anyone else. There are certainly many good candidates for POY. All conference team will be pretty stacked.
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While I agree that Gulich has earned POY, it will go to Sabrina. It will be interesting to see if Gulich wins Defensive POY?
 
Final Awards for Pac 12 POY, Coach and Freshman tonight at 5pm PST

ALL-PAC-12 (15 members)

Name School Pos. Yr. Hometown
Kristine Anigwe *** California F Jr. Phoenix, Ariz.
Monique Billings ** UCLA F Sr. Corona, Calif.
Jordin Canada *** UCLA G Sr. Los Angeles, Calif.
Maite Cazorla Oregon G Jr. Las Palmas, Spain
Marie Gülich ** Oregon State F/C Sr. Cologne, Germany
Ruthy Hebard ** Oregon F So. Fairbanks, Alaska
Borislava Hristova Washington State F So. Varna, Bulgaria
Megan Huff Utah F Jr. Federal Way, Wash.
Kianna Ibis Arizona State F Jr. Omaha, Neb.
Sabrina Ionescu ** Oregon G So. Walnut Creek, Calif.
Kennedy Leonard ** Colorado G Jr. Southlake, Texas
Brittany McPhee ** Stanford G Sr. Normandy Park, Wash.
Amber Melgoza Washington G So. Santa Barbara, Calif.
Kristen Simon ** USC F Sr. Gardena, Calif.
Alanna Smith Stanford F Sr. Melbourne, Australia
HONORABLE MENTION (receiving at least one point): Jalea Bennett, ARIZ (Sr., G); Kennedy Burke, UCLA (Jr., G); Mikayla Cowling, CAL (Sr., G/F); Aliyah Mazyck, USC (Jr., G); Katie McWilliams, OSU (Jr., G); Mikayla Pivec, OSU (So., G); Emily Potter, UTAH (Sr., F); Robbi Ryan, ASU (So., G); Asha Thomas, CAL (Jr., G); Kat Tudor, OSU (So., G); Kiana Williams, STAN (Fr., G).

ALL-DEFENSIVE (5 members)

Name School Pos. Yr. Hometown
Monique Billings ** UCLA F Sr. Corona, Calif.
Jordin Canada *** UCLA G Sr. Los Angeles, Calif.
Marie Gülich Oregon State F/C Sr. Cologne, Germany
Aliyah Mazyck USC G Jr. Charlotte, N.C.
Minyon Moore USC G So. Hercules, Calif.
HONORABLE MENTION (receiving at least one point): Kristine Anigwe, CAL (Jr., F); Kennedy Burke, UCLA (Jr., G); Maite Cazorla, ORE (Jr., G); Mikayla Cowling, CAL (Sr., G/F); Kaylee Johnson, STAN (Sr., F); Kennedy Leonard, COLO (Jr., G); Katie McWilliams, OSU (Jr., G); Emily Potter, UTAH (Sr., F); Robbi Ryan, ASU (So., G); Marta Sniezek, STAN (Jr., G).

ALL-FRESHMAN TEAM

Name School Pos. Hometown
Michaela Onyenwere UCLA F Aurora, Colo.
Satou Sabally Oregon F Berlin, Germany
Kianna Smith California G Moreno Valley, Calif.
Sam Thomas Arizona F Bloomfield Hills, Mich.
Kiana Williams Stanford G San Antonio, Texas
HONORABLE MENTION (receiving at least one point): Kierra Collier, WASH (Fr., G); Taya Corosdale, OSU (Fr., F); Aleah Goodman, OSU (Fr., G); Annika Jank, COLO (Fr., F); Tori Williams, UTAH (Fr., G).

2017-18 Pac-12 Women’s Basketball All-Conference Teams Announced
 
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Glad to see Hristova and Melgoza get honored in the Pac 12. They played for bad teams but that doesn't take away from how they performed for their teams.
 
Cool. Guess I'll post the Big South and MEAC all conference teams when they are announced ;)
 
sharris952 said:
Its not a team award, Wilson should win it for SEC she is #1 in three categories and like in the top 3 in all of the categories to include defensive statistics. It will be hard for Vivians to get that award given that she has had much more help and probably started way behind Wilson in the process. Heck Wilson will probably win NPOY and her stats work for it.
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To paraphrase what you stated, NPOY is not a lifetime achievement award and as good as Wilson's stats may be Katie Lou Samuelson is the best player on the best team. Samuelson's stats will never rival other candidates because Geno doesn't coach that way and Connecticut doesn't play that way. Wilson has better number's albeit not by much, Ionescu is more dynamic, and Kalani Brown is more dominant but Katie Lou is the straw that stirs the drink for the nation's best team. That's why she's the NPOY and I didn't believe that before the season began.
 
How the heck did Tara get coach of the year in the Pac 12
9 losses and you are coach of the year? 3 blow out losses of those 9 losses.
I could see Graves I could see Rueck, I could even see Trach at USC. Head bang
 
ochoopsfan said:
How the heck did Tara get coach of the year in the Pac 12
9 losses and you are coach of the year? 3 blow out losses of those 9 losses.
I could see Graves I could see Rueck, I could even see Trach at USC. Head bang
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The conference awards are for conference play. Stanford did quite well in conference play.
 
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I would have voted for the USC coach. He has done an amazing job with those kids. USC is a scary opponent. All the PAC12 coaches, analysts, etc. agree, nobody wants to play USC in the PAC12 tournament. If USC wins their 1st game, then they get Stanford next.
 
ochoopsfan said:
How the heck did Tara get coach of the year in the Pac 12
9 losses and you are coach of the year? 3 blow out losses of those 9 losses.
I could see Graves I could see Rueck, I could even see Trach at USC. Head bang
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Totally agree. Stanford played the easier schedule, and lost to Cal. Look at the PAC conference players, i.e. Anigwe over Thomas, then just stick a name on from the teams that were pretty bad, just a joke this year.
 
Plebe said:
The conference awards are for conference play. Stanford did quite well in conference play.
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I am not doubting your post but after reading the press releases for the winners. Sabrina, Sabouly, Canada, etc, they quote season or career records that include all games, not just Pac12 games, Also the Farm only had to play the Oregon teams once this year.
There are better choices IMO
 
ochoopsfan said:
I am not doubting your post but after reading the press releases for the winners. Sabrina, Sabouly, Canada, etc, they quote season or career records that include all games, not just Pac12 games, Also the Farm only had to play the Oregon teams once this year.
There are better choices IMO
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It's a two-way street. The Oregon schools only had to play Stanford once as well — and they got to play at home. So maybe it's OU and OSU who caught a break, considering Stanford swept them in the state of Oregon.
 
don't know if any of the Boneyard watched the PAC12 Awards show yesterday? It was announced that Jordin Canada was the coach's defensive POY in PAC12. Jordin was than interviewed.

Then I see today on the PAC12 website this article: 2017-18 Pac-12 Women’s Basketball Media Awards Announced. Marie Gulich was "co-defensive" POY along with Canada in the PAC12 by the meida. Glad to see the media give Marie recognition for her great defensive skills.
 
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