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AtlHusky

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Surprised by the announcer hate. Welsh sounded like Kevin Ollie's agent all game.

The Ali praise from Welsh was veiled. Like our most objective fan here,Freescooter, he knows that Ali will be a substandard Head Coach and realizes if he profusely praises him, it will catch on nationally and UConn will feel like they have to keep Ali at the helm. This will further chip away at the former elite status enjoyed by UConn back when Welsh was coaching.
 

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Complaining about the refs is a loser's lament...
...it's also been present in sport from the moment someone decided that a guy in a striped shirt should be making realtime decisions about games. I bet the Mayan's complained about the refs...and then beheaded them.
 
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I know the rules pretty well and the refs who work our games. Before each game I know their names even before they come out. When I found out who was working I was not pleased. They are not the well known guys who work big BE games. Give me Cahill, Corbett, Hess, Burr etc. Those guys CONTROL the game and prevent what we saw last night. Forgot to mention Stephens and even though I dislike him Stuart. By the way Rutecki drew JC's ire a few years ago calling him the worst ref in US for which he later apologized.
 
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The goal tend was an easy call. Doesn't matter if the shot wasn't going in. Has to be called.

It does matter if the shot had no chance to go in. The ball was below the rim and on the way down. I'd say that meets the definition of "no chance".
 
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Your front court fouled out; our back court did. Fouls should have been in our favor; we played zone most of the game.

Spare me the choke hold BS; your boy threw an elbow above the shoulders. He should have been tossed.

Brutally officiated game. Wildly inconsistent
 

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Your front court fouled out; our back court did. Fouls should have been in our favor; we played zone most of the game.

Spare me the choke hold BS; your boy threw an elbow above the shoulders. He should have been tossed.

Brutally officiated game. Wildly inconsistent

Elbow my , and it was looked at by the refs. It was clearly an armbar to clear your thug's neck grab. Why would a guy getting up off the floor turn to look behind him for something to grab when the ball is 20 feet up the court? Get your head outta your ass and limp back to your own sorry board if your gonna come here with this kinda BS.
 
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Elbow my , and it was looked at by the refs. It was clearly an armbar to clear your thug's neck grab. Why would a guy getting up off the floor turn to look behind him for something to grab when the ball is 20 feet up the court? Get your head outta your ass and limp back to your own sorry board if your gonna come here with this kinda BS.

Watch the replay, he threw an elbow. FACT
 

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Watch the replay, he threw an elbow. FACT

Refs would have tossed him if he did. I have watched it, he didn't throw an elbow. Double- FACT. LOL JK with you, but stating FACT is just silly. It might be argued that Wolf pushed him with his arm, but there was no elbow thrown. Either way a double foul was a really stupid call, it should have been a play-on as it appeared the two players just got tangled. It did stop a fast break for UConn and gave Wolf his 4th foul, so it was def. in PC's favor.

Also, Batts should have had at least 2-3 other fouls called on him under the basket. His tackle of Giffey on a rebound was a disgraceful no call.
 

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Watch the replay, he threw an elbow. FACT

I did, a few times. You don't know what you're talking about. FACT (see how easy that is?)

Please go away until you have something intelligent to contribute. Until then, you are just strengthening our perceptions of the PC fanbase, or at least what there is of one.
 
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Watch the replay, he threw an elbow. FACT
I do believe the foul was called prior to that elbow. Not the greatest called game, on either side, by these refs.
 
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Refs would have tossed him if he did. I have watched it, he didn't throw an elbow. Double- FACT. LOL JK with you, but stating FACT is just silly. It might be argued that Wolf pushed him with his arm, but there was no elbow thrown. Either way a double foul was a really stupid call, it should have been a play-on as it appeared the two players just got tangled. It did stop a fast break for UConn and gave Wolf his 4th foul, so it was def. in PC's favor.

Also, Batts should have had at least 2-3 other fouls called on him under the basket. His tackle of Giffey on a rebound was a disgraceful no call.

Also gave batts his 4th. No real advantage gained.
The scrims under the basket were a joke all night.
 
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Complaining about the refs is like taking the escalator. It's for cowards.
 
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I personally thought the refs sucked across the board. Not sure they favored one teams vs the other I just thought they sucked-plain and simple. Horrible.
 
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Also gave batts his 4th. No real advantage gained.
The scrims under the basket were a joke all night.

Batts should have at least 8, not to mention that crazy pirouette move into the lane where he took 4 or 5 steps before smacking into Daniels--and Daniels fouled out.
 

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No idea why anyone is complaining about the double foul -- Batts took a shot at Wolf, and Wolf threw an elbow back at him. The Wolf elbow was clear from the baseline shot they showed coming back from commercial. Both fouls were deserved, and both guys were lucky to not be given technicals.
 
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You guys got the game gifted to you by the refs on a silver platter a d you have the gall to complain about officiating? Priceless.

Being there they were absolutely horrible but both ways. Nothing was gift wrapped at all as we both fell to crappy calls throughout the game. Sat with a bunch of PC fans in the Dunk bar and they were in total agreement on that!!!
 
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Has the statute of limitations run out for complaining about sarcastic clapping?

My take on the double foul, and I only saw the replay once so perhaps a different angle might have shown more, was that Batts was getting up off the ground (or from a sprinter's position where he was low to he ground) and leaned into Wolf's path as Wolf was trying to run by (so he wouldn't get beat down the floor - nothing dirty, just a heady move, really). The little bit of contact knocked Wolf off stride and he put a forearm out reflexively, essentially to use Batts' body for balance so he wouldn't topple over. Since Batts wasn't standing fully upright yet, the contact from Wolf's arm was higher than it would normally be. But it certainly didn't look to me like any sort of exchange of cheap shots or anything. I thought live (not focusing on the play) that they got their feet tangled, and on the replay, I thought they should have just ignored it entirely. A case could be made for the initial foul on Batts for leaning into Wolf's path, but that would be a soft whistle.

I maybe need to look at it again, but I didn't think Wolf did anything wrong. If you stick your head into someone's midsection as they are running and you get hit with a forearm or elbow, that's your fault. That's where a person's arms are going to be as he's running. Where's he supposed to put them?

I reserve the right to change my opinion if I see the replay again.
 

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Has the statute of limitations run out for complaining about sarcastic clapping?

My take on the double foul, and I only saw the replay once so perhaps a different angle might have shown more, was that Batts was getting up off the ground (or from a sprinter's position where he was low to he ground) and leaned into Wolf's path as Wolf was trying to run by (so he wouldn't get beat down the floor - nothing dirty, just a heady move, really). The little bit of contact knocked Wolf off stride and he put a forearm out reflexively, essentially to use Batts' body for balance so he wouldn't topple over. Since Batts wasn't standing fully upright yet, the contact from Wolf's arm was higher than it would normally be. But it certainly didn't look to me like any sort of exchange of cheap shots or anything. I thought live (not focusing on the play) that they got their feet tangled, and on the replay, I thought they should have just ignored it entirely. A case could be made for the initial foul on Batts for leaning into Wolf's path, but that would be a soft whistle.

I maybe need to look at it again, but I didn't think Wolf did anything wrong. If you stick your head into someone's midsection as they are running and you get hit with a forearm or elbow, that's your fault. That's where a person's arms are going to be as he's running. Where's he supposed to put them?

I reserve the right to change my opinion if I see the replay again.

I replayed the exchange a few times last night since I didn't watch the game live, but instead started it at about 8:45 on my DVR.

First, the contact was initiated by Batts and it wasn't inadvertant. I don't think Batts meant to catch Wolf in the neck, but it certainly looked like he purposely reached back in attempt to slow Wolf down as he got up since the ball was well ahead of both of them. Wolf then extended his arm in attempt to discard the Batts foul. The ref caught that reaction (as they often do with reactions) and felt he had to call the double foul. After the call, you can clearly see Wolf in disbelief that he was also called for a foul, motioning to the ref that he took a shot to his neck.
 

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Has the statute of limitations run out for complaining about sarcastic clapping?

My take on the double foul, and I only saw the replay once so perhaps a different angle might have shown more, was that Batts was getting up off the ground (or from a sprinter's position where he was low to he ground) and leaned into Wolf's path as Wolf was trying to run by (so he wouldn't get beat down the floor - nothing dirty, just a heady move, really). The little bit of contact knocked Wolf off stride and he put a forearm out reflexively, essentially to use Batts' body for balance so he wouldn't topple over. Since Batts wasn't standing fully upright yet, the contact from Wolf's arm was higher than it would normally be. But it certainly didn't look to me like any sort of exchange of cheap shots or anything. I thought live (not focusing on the play) that they got their feet tangled, and on the replay, I thought they should have just ignored it entirely. A case could be made for the initial foul on Batts for leaning into Wolf's path, but that would be a soft whistle.

I maybe need to look at it again, but I didn't think Wolf did anything wrong. If you stick your head into someone's midsection as they are running and you get hit with a forearm or elbow, that's your fault. That's where a person's arms are going to be as he's running. Where's he supposed to put them?

I reserve the right to change my opinion if I see the replay again.


Your depiction was exactly correct. The slow motion replay from a different angle created a distorted impression of what might have happened, but in real time Wolf reaction was just a reaction to regain his balance.
 
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A decent team ineligible for the post season and a lousy program irrelevant for 15 years playing on Thursday are going to get the C team in officials and announcing.
 
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its not complaining its calling it like it is that game was very unwatchable for the average fan, in a big east game you have to let the kids play.
 

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Your front court fouled out; our back court did. Fouls should have been in our favor; we played zone most of the game.

Spare me the choke hold BS; your boy threw an elbow above the shoulders. He should have been tossed.

Brutally officiated game. Wildly inconsistent

All that matters is UConn won and PC still sucks
 
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That was lower than the C teams. They were so bad it bordered on criminal.
 
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