Colorado Post Game Thread

[10TOES]

not a coincidence that we loose when Hurley and the staff are forced to wear golf shirts. They need to dress good, feel good, play good.

 

[Captbluefin]

Just not a good team. Seen this coming a mile away. Poor constructed roster. No one can create their own shots. When Diarra takes your last two shots of the game you know your team is in trouble. As good as he was he should be driving with game on line into traffic. Then we have no good play set up at end.

Defense is the worst it’s been in years. Like years. A mediocre Colorado team scored at will.

Problem with Diarra as PG is his judgement is often off--drives into traffic and turns it over, or shoots 3's indiscriminately.
I dunno the answer to our biggest problem. But we're too talented to lose like this. Rudderless.

Because Diarra is a 6th man. That’s what he is and a good one.

He is not a starting point guard on a deep run tournament team

 

[TheHorde]

I hear you on 1 rebound and 1 assist but he scored 20 points on 6/9 shooting and gutted it out coming back on the court from injury. I'm even more impressed with Liam after these past two games than before. He showed he shakes off a rough game to hit clutch threes at the end, he showed leadership, and he showed he will play through injury.

He's a freshman and showed the things I want to see from Karaban but Alex was quieter than a church mouse out there after saying it's all on his shoulders after the game yesterday.

I wouldn’t count out this coaching staff or these kids. They’ll get better and compete. The horses might not be there to the same degree as the past two years, but they won’t play like this for long.

 

[superjohn]

What evidence other than the hype from the coach is there that “we are really talented”

My eyeballs, NBA scouts, scouting services rankings...

McNeeley, Karaban, Ball, Reed, Stewart will all likely play in the NBA. Then there's guys like Nowell, Abraham, and Ross who may have a shot.

 

[aceboon]

That's not your shot Diarra. Pass the ball.

the play drawn up out of the TO was blown up, not alot of options left with the time remaining

 

[jesterman]

We are really talented, the sum is way less than the parts right now. We have way more talent across the board than Colorado.

I really don't think we are though. Liam is the only dude on the team where it's like "this guy is an all around baller." AK is great but he isn't and never was athletic enough to create his own shot and it was unfair to task him with being Superman. Solo is a really good 2 guard but the rest of the backcourt is so lacking in talent that he can't just play within his role.

I like Tarris on offense but he's not a rim protector, and Samson is Samson. Nowell/Mahaney/Diarra is way too small of a backcourt to compensate for the lack of rim protection down low. It's a really easy team to gameplan against now (total opposite of last year), and I don't see how it changes. (Other than an infusion of talent; I'm huge on next year's class, they make so much sense)

 

[Pmac923]

Not to be a downer, but realistically I just don’t see how we win 2/3 there. Gonzaga is simply better than us, Baylor is gonna ram it down our throats and is super athletic. Idk much about Texas but I know their Freshman is incredible. We lost to a mediocre team today, it’s a tall ask to beat good/great teams.

These are island games in November. there’s nothing more fluky than this event in a high school gym. I assume we just should pack it in the rest of the year? I’m not writing the obituary until the new year. Gonzaga in the garden?? And Baylor in Gampel. We’ll win both of those games.

 

[Mr. French]

This feels different to me because we won our first 14 before we fell apart so we knew they had it in them. I am not sure I have seen anything that says this team is any better than a 7 or 8 seed and that might be a stretch.

We are just not athletic enough and I don’t see anything that tells me the roster construction is going to get us there.

Liam may have been a higher recruit than Steph (not sure) but the only thing he does better on the BB court than Steph is shoot.

I really want to be optimistic but it’s looking like this is a transition year.

I hope I am wrong about everything but this is very concerning.

It is different. Every season is. But the fact is, 2 straight losses in November CAN be an indicator, but doesn’t necessarily have to be.

People are now claiming wild things about overall talent levels, etc. when it’s mostly about learning about your team and growing.

 

[CardiacAndre7]

I hear you on 1 rebound and 1 assist but he scored 20 points on 6/9 shooting and gutted it out coming back on the court from injury. I'm even more impressed with Liam after these past two games than before. He showed he shakes off a rough game to hit clutch threes at the end, he showed leadership, and he showed he will play through injury.

He's a freshman and showed the things I want to see from Karaban but Alex was quieter than a church mouse out there after saying it's all on his shoulders after the game yesterday.

I’m more impressed with McNeeley than yesterday, but his defense was pretty poor again. His shot has/always will be there. But his guy seems to drive by him any time he wants. Not that anyone else is particularly good defensively, but I expected him to be better on that end.

 

[3rdbass]

Its not about challenging a threepeat its about how off two national championshps is our talent unable to beat two unranked teams in a row and very likely will drop out of the top 25 next week. Who did these coaches recruit?

If we win our next game we aren't dropping out.

 

[CardiacAndre7]

These are island games in November. there’s nothing more fluky than this event in a high school gym. I assume we just should pack it in the rest of the year? I’m not writing the obituary until the new year. Gonzaga in the garden?? And Baylor in Gampel. We’ll win both of those games.

I admire the enthusiasm. Gonzaga is simply a better team than us. We can for sure beat Baylor beacuse they are erratic, but there is no reason right now to think we can beat Gonzaga.

 

[ucp990411]

Samson played decently today but man do he and Reed need to stop taking dumb fouls trying to pick up hero rebounds they have no chance at or take dumb fouls far from the basket.

One rebound from our starting center and he played decent ? Guess the bar is rather low

 

[Dibbie]

They would’ve only had 5 seconds with or without a timeout

Of course, but also allows the D to draw up a set

 

[3rdbass]

for the folks complaining about the whistle, that last non-call on the McNeeley attempted defensive rebound sucked but this team fouls alot, way too much reaching and putting their hands on people and just bad principles flying off their feet for shot fakes. Even last year when "The Athletic" was doing blind scouting reports on tournament teams opposing anonymous coaches were commenting on how much UConn fouls.

Yeah but at least we had Clingan and Steph to clean up our messes. Even Newton and Spencer play more D than this team. We played great Perimeter D against Purdue in the championship game. The 2 teams aren't comparable.

 

[superjohn]

I’m more impressed with McNeeley than yesterday, but his defense was pretty poor again. His shot has/always will be there. But his guy seems to drive by him any time he wants. Not that anyone else is particularly good defensively, but I expected him to be better on that end.

The entire team was horrible on defense these two games.

 

[Hunt for 7]

My eyeballs, NBA scouts, scouting services rankings...

McNeeley, Karaban, Ball, Reed, Stewart will all likely play in the NBA. Then there's guys like Nowell, Abraham, and Ross who may have a shot.

And the guy who is not on the list takes the last shot.

 

[UCfor3]

I am starting to think the whole "can't win a close game" thing is actually becoming a concern. The team got up 4 late in OT yesterday and folded and again today up 5 after the wild Solo shot. After missing the FT out of th break it just seemed to snowball into a team that didn't have the confidence to know how to close out the game.

Anybody else think we would have been better off in an open court situation with the last 9 seconds instead of calling the timeout to draw something up? To me it's usually favorable to the offense to have an open court situation trying to get to the basket as time expires.

I think if there is 25 seconds left, you call a timeout. If there is sigle digit seconds left in the game like today it's usually better to just push the ball and go. It's easier to trust an experience team, which we are not, or a team.with an experienced dynamic guard to just go hence the dilemna.

 

[Zonepress]

Not a very good team right now
Seems like some of the following might be true
-the talent on the team is not what it was perceived to be
-players might be feeling the pressure of expectations and are underperforming

• the team is poorly constructed
• the team is poorly coached

Or a combination of all 4

 

[Shine21]

Because Diarra is a 6th man. That’s what he is and a good one.

He is not a starting point guard on a deep run tournament team

This. Mahaney not living up to the hype has set this team back.

 

[CardiacAndre7]

The entire team was horrible on defense these two games.

I’ve said that repeatedly. I’ve just noticed McNeeley doesn’t offer resistance on drives. Also thought he would be getting more rebounds from the first few games. 1 in 33 minutes is rough.

 

[blkknight1]

it comes down to 2 things if the defense (especially the 3pt defense) doesn’t improve and if the foul disparity doesn’t change it’s gonna be a struggle all year. You can’t have teams shoot over 50% from 3 and you can’t put teams in the bonus with 10+ minutes in the first half while also losing important players because of the fouls. Diarra and Alex are upperclassmen with tons of experience who should know better, you pick up an early foul you have to play smarter yet they quickly picked up second fouls and had to sit. The younger players you don’t like it but understand it.

 

[Devland]

Biggest difference between this year and last year is the perimeter. We let up a lot of easy threes. We miss Newton more than anyone.

 

[AntG168]

Of course, but also allows the D to draw up a set

We called a timeout yesterday in the almost same situation and it worked. Damned if you do, damned if you don’t. It’s not an obvious choice though

 

[Huskyforlife]

I think the offense will be good with Nowell being inserted for Mahaney. Nowell-Ball-Liam-Alex-Reed is a talented offensive lineup.

The defense and fouling is where I’m losing hope. This team can’t guard any dribble penetration, Samson is a walking bonus machine. Can Hurley fix the defense before we get to conference play?

 

[superjohn]

I’ve said that repeatedly. I’ve just noticed McNeeley doesn’t offer resistance on drives. Also thought he would be getting more rebounds from the first few games. 1 in 33 minutes is rough.

And yet he's the least of our problems.

We have a lot of problems right now.