Colorado Post Game Thread

[RuffRuff]

Is Darius Adams not that? He seems to have an instinctive game and knows how to get in the lane to score. I think Nowell is that. He was in high school. He's super quick, athletic, has handles, and is built like a tank.

We weren't exactly loaded with those guys on our back to back championship teams. The only guy who had it on the first championship is Tristen. Last year we had Tristen and Castle and Cam could get in the lane with his craft for pull ups and one legged Dirk shots.

Darius is a 6’5” kid. Has a great handle for his size but doesn’t have that kind of quickness, stop and go, shiftiness with the ball. More of a long strider.

 

[IndyLives]

This game is worrisome as we couldnt put an average team away in the 2nd half. That was our MO last 2 years. It starts on the defensive end & giving up too many good looks. I do think its coachable & fixable, but we're going to have to to win the physical Big East.

 

[navery12]

I haven't read this thread yet (or watched the game), but as the eternal optimist just think about how good next year's team will be with our recruiting class and all our non Karaban early entry candidates back

 

[superjohn]

Everything i’ve watched of Adams has been perimeter based. I haven’t seen too much slashing or strong drives. He is super skinny so it makes sense, but I don’t see the wiggle or speed aspect really. Looks to be a great shot maker in many ways though.

Last two years we had so many ways to score though both inside and out, this year less so. Tristen was great end of shot clock last year and end of 2023 as well. Just don’t think we have as many options this year to keep defenses as honest.

Adams isn't fast or a major run and jump athlete but he seems to have a lot of wiggle and is an instinctive player. You don't have to be fast or a major run and jump athlete to get in the lane and score in the lane/draw fouls. Tristen and Cam aren't considered fast or major run jump athletes. Same goes for the best lane scorers in the NBA these days. Solo is plenty fast and athletic and scoring in the lane doesn't seem to be a strength of his.

I wish we had Tristen too but we don't. I don't think offense will be much of a problem for us.

 

[superjohn]

I haven't read this thread yet (or watched the game), but as the eternal optimist just think about how good next year's team will be with our recruiting class and all our non Karaban early entry candidates back

But we won't have anyone who can get in the lane and score or draw a foul next season. jk

 

[superjohn]

Darius is a 6’5” kid. Has a great handle for his size but doesn’t have that kind of quickness, stop and go, shiftiness with the ball. More of a long strider.

He does though from what I've seen.

Long strider? Rip was a cross country runner and he's one of the best lane scorers we've ever had.

 

[CardiacAndre7]

He does though from what I've seen.

Long strider? Rip was a cross country runner and he's one of the best lane scorers we've ever had.

He doesn’t from what i’ve seen. Watched a lot of highlights when it looked like we were getting him. Outside shot maker but really didn’t see much on ball creation. Agree to disagree.

 

[3rdbass]

I think Hurley probably knew sometime this Summer that this team had a LOT of holes. But the ingredients were set so he had to make the best of it.

The earlier you got knocked out of the tournament this year, the earlier you could get going in portal recruiting. We had to wait until pretty much the end of April/beginning of May when most of the good players were gone. Mahaney was clearly a complete and total misapprehension of talent, probably Hurley's worst coaching UCONN. I wonder what they saw in him, maybe a slightly lesser Spencer?

Whatever, he's pretty much a waste of a roster spot at this point. I would not be surprised if he leaves the team at some point and goes back into the portal if for no other reason than to avoid further humiliation once the Big East schedule gets moving. He should have stayed in the WCC, low major is his best home.

I want to give these guys time to cook but the more and more I watch the less confident I am that we're gonna avoid a double digit loss season. Feels like a .500 team or worse. And at this point it's tough to see how we're gonna beat St. John's, Marquette, etc. Hell we might lose to Providence which would be intollerable.

Come to think of it, this is not dissimilar to what happened to Donovan's post-repeat teams at Florida. Took them a few recruiting cycles to rebuild during which they were mediocre to just OK.

Hey stay away from the ledge. It isn't as bad a you put. We still have the offensive talent to be good with Karaban, Ball and McNeeley. It is just that we have to fast forward Nowell's devlopment. We all thought Mahaney would be good or at least adequate. I'm sure he will still have some moments. The kid needs to eat and hit the gym big time. Not sure what he was thinking coming in looking like Howdy Doody. I still think he can contribute and be a key cog off the bench. We will be above .500 team and make the tournament. I don't see a final four team right now but season is still long.

 

[Tyler2Rings]

The last 2 days have caused heartache, I don’t know if I can go for 3 in a row

Lucky for you the next game technically starts on Thursday

 

[superjohn]

He doesn’t from what i’ve seen. Watched a lot of highlights when it looked like we were getting him. Outside shot maker but really didn’t see much on ball creation. Agree to disagree.

He does a lot of on ball creation/scoring in the lane and has a lot of wiggle in his game. I don't know what to tell you.

Darius Adams - PSA Cardinals - 2024 Nike Peach Jam Highlights

2024 Nike Peach Jam Highlights

youtu.be

 

[Gurleyman]

I don’t get it. Why do you shoot a 3 down 1 with 5s to go? Drive the damn ball and take the bucket, foul, or hopefully rebound - if the ball gets stripped you live with it but a 3? There is like no upside to that.

To be honest, when the first option wasn’t there (back door to Liam), the next option was a ball screen from Stewart and I’m just not sure that was going to lead anywhere if CU was in a switch everything mode with only 5 seconds left. Shooting a 3 then at least gave us a chance at a putback.

 

[1999GoodSon]

Funny thing is, all last night, BY regulars slamming anyone not part of your clique for commenting on the OT loss. You guys are 13 pages in and still hyperventilating and crashing the board over this one. They actually played a better game today. There's a really good team in there somewhere. Alumni and long term donor.

 

[superjohn]

I think Hurley probably knew sometime this Summer that this team had a LOT of holes. But the ingredients were set so he had to make the best of it.

The earlier you got knocked out of the tournament this year, the earlier you could get going in portal recruiting. We had to wait until pretty much the end of April/beginning of May when most of the good players were gone. Mahaney was clearly a complete and total misapprehension of talent, probably Hurley's worst coaching UCONN. I wonder what they saw in him, maybe a slightly lesser Spencer?

Whatever, he's pretty much a waste of a roster spot at this point. I would not be surprised if he leaves the team at some point and goes back into the portal if for no other reason than to avoid further humiliation once the Big East schedule gets moving. He should have stayed in the WCC, low major is his best home.

I want to give these guys time to cook but the more and more I watch the less confident I am that we're gonna avoid a double digit loss season. Feels like a .500 team or worse. And at this point it's tough to see how we're gonna beat St. John's, Marquette, etc. Hell we might lose to Providence which would be intollerable.

Come to think of it, this is not dissimilar to what happened to Donovan's post-repeat teams at Florida. Took them a few recruiting cycles to rebuild during which they were mediocre to just OK.

I can't tell if this is all sarcasm or if you're serious.

Hurley has been talking about three-peating to anyone who would listen until they landed in Maui.

.500 team or worse.


You're talking about how it's going to take us a few recruiting cycles to rebuild.

 

[CardiacAndre7]

He does a lot of on ball creation/scoring in the lane and has a lot of wiggle in his game. I don't know what to tell you.

Darius Adams - PSA Cardinals - 2024 Nike Peach Jam Highlights

2024 Nike Peach Jam Highlights

youtu.be

Again, the main thing from a lot of those highlights and others i’ve watched is his knockdown shooting. That’s why his scouting report often reads as such.

I know your thoughts on it you know mine. We can agree to disagree! Cool?

 

[superjohn]

Again, the main thing from a lot of those highlights and others i’ve watched is his knockdown shooting. That’s why his scouting report often reads as such.

I know your thoughts on it you know mine. We can agree to disagree! Cool?

The highlights show over and over him doing all the things you say he doesn't do. Lolz

 

[UCONNFAN179]

We aren't 3 peating. That needs to be dropped now for all our sanity. It is now about team and individual improvement to make the Tourney and play well.

Let's hope we can make another run in 2026

 

[my2cents]

McNeeley 1 rebound, Solo 2 rebounds, Samson 1 rebound. What a joke. Nowell is 6’ and outrebounded them in a fraction of the time.

Our guards last year got us a lot of rebounds. Nobody is rebounding worth a damn.

 

[CardiacAndre7]

The highlights show over and over him doing all the things you say he doesn't do. Lolz

Doesn’t do a ton. You’re exaggerating my words, it isn’t his strength, maybe it becomes his strength. Again, let’s agree to disagree.

 

[JBK]

Hurley needs to go back to the Lab.

He really tried to fix his CYO yelling at the refs all game last year and he has reverted backwards. Bad look for a 2 time national champion

 

[Gurleyman]

I can't tell if this is all sarcasm or if you're serious.

Hurley has been talking about three-peating to anyone who would listen until they landed in Maui.

.500 team or worse.


You're talking about how it's going to take us a few recruiting cycles to rebuild.

We looked at Mahaney a lot - an awful lot -when we played them in the NCAAs. We knew what we were getting. He’s definitely better than what he’s shown, but maybe be needs things to be simplified for a bit and not worry about the whole offense and making reads. Just come off screens and shoot … or look for one read/one pass and keep the ball moving and not having it stick to his hands. And then when he has a better feel for his teammates, our system and what we are doing out there, he can have the ball move.

 

[MrJama100]

This team has a lot of holes but it is November. Give the coaching staff a chance and the new guys an opportunity,
A solid 4-6 seed that can make a run is awesome after 2 nattys back to back.

 

[RuffRuff]

Hey stay away from the ledge. It isn't as bad a you put. We still have the offensive talent to be good with Karaban, Ball and McNeeley. It is just that we have to fast forward Nowell's devlopment. We all thought Mahaney would be good or at least adequate. I'm sure he will still have some moments. The kid needs to eat and hit the gym big time. Not sure what he was thinking coming in looking like Howdy Doody. I still think he can contribute and be a key cog off the bench. We will be above .500 team and make the tournament. I don't see a final four team right now but season is still long.

Doomsday approach

Healthy approach here is to take this season slow, reduce expectations dramatically and just enjoy watching it come together.

I really think if Hurley can scrape off the loose parts of the rotation, allow top 8 to build chemistry, good things can still happen. Liam, Solo, Ahmad and Stew still have lots of room to improve.

 

[RuffRuff]

Again, the main thing from a lot of those highlights and others i’ve watched is his knockdown shooting. That’s why his scouting report often reads as such.

I know your thoughts on it you know mine. We can agree to disagree! Cool?

Couldn’t agree more. He’s not a kid with wiggle. Nice handle, not an explosive downhill kind of talent.

 

[CashewCrew]

I can’t believe this is what we have to work with at center for the entire season

 

[Conndog]

This loss is a lot worse than Memphis loss. Memphis has better players with great size and athleticism, put us in a deep hole, only to have UConn claw back and almost win. Except for the great shooting of the opposing team, the game against Colorado seemed different- UConn had the better players (I think), UConn had the lead for most of the game, but never imposed themselves to take the win. Like many others have noted already, 1) UConn can’t defend well, and 2) UConn gets into foul trouble too frequently, and 3) the other team gets to the line a lot more.