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College point shaving indictments

Deepster said:
Newsflash: College sports is crooked. Always has been, always will be.

You can go back 50 years to players getting bags of money, girls, cars, etc. NIL helped with some of that, but I'm sure there is squishy NIL and non-NIL situations nowadays. You have recruiting violations, contacting players outside the rules. Coaches in cahoots with scumbag sneaker reps and agents. Players committing serious legal crimes (drunk driving, sexual allegations, etc) and somehow that getting swept under the rug.

The marketing of college sports is great with the yeah-rah-rah good ol' fashioned Americana playing to the masses...but make no mistake, it's always been and always will have a slimy undercurrent.
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That’s true, but many of us feel that the advent of highly promoted legal sports betting, availailabe 24/7 on everybodys phone has supercharged things.
 
Donyell 360 said:
I agree it is a serious problem but nuke the sport sounds a bit dramatic. That would require a far greater level of scripting than what this seem to involve. Only those who bet on sports care about these types of trivial outcomes like point spreads, overs, unders, individual stats, etc. True fans care about wins and losses. But the blue bloods care too much about winning and losing to be tempted by this.

I wonder too if the NIL money will help reduce the temptation. More money will always be a temptation for some, but it must at least curtail it somewhat, right? My guess is the ones being targeted are not making NIL money. But how much influence do they have on an outcome? There is a pretty small number who make no NIL and yet can change an outcome, particularly at the blue bloods.
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If scripted outcomes are good, why doesn’t every sport just script the game?
 
nelsonmuntz said:
If scripted outcomes are good, why doesn’t every sport just script the game?
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Read my post again. I didn't say scripting games was good. I literally began the post saying, "I agree it is a serious problem..."
 
Donyell 360 said:
Too bad we've already played DePaul twice. It would be a fun in-game contest to see who can identify the point shavers!
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If you go to Robin Hood they’d probably let you set up a line on it . Oh, excuse me, a market on it. That’s how crazy betting has become.
 
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Donyell 360 said:
Read my post again. I didn't say scripting games was good. I literally began the post saying, "I agree it is a serious problem..."
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Events are not binary. 100% of people don't need to dislike something for it to fail. Sometimes all it takes are 10 or 20% of people to abandon something for it to enter a doom loop. Do you think 20% of fans would abandon the sport if it was scripted?
 
This is actually a positive for the sport. This stuff has always happened, and we’re in a transition period where people still believe they can get away with it, but they’re going to figure out they can never outsmart the data and algorithms, and then a lot of this will be minimized.
 
7774 said:
This is actually a positive for the sport. This stuff has always happened, and we’re in a transition period where people still believe they can get away with it, but they’re going to figure out they can never outsmart the data and algorithms, and then a lot of this will be minimized.
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Yes. Because as we all know, young men always act rationally.
 
mussels said:
Yes. Because as we all know, young men always act rationally.
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Well which scenario do you think will result in more rational behavior? When no one ever gets caught, or when people get caught? Obviously it will never be eliminated.
 
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Fishy said:
That's the insane part.

You're gonna put six figures on props bets involving Tulane basketball?

Just drive yourself to the FBI office.
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None of these teams are creme de creme of the NIL department. This has a lot to do with this. Also its not just the players coaches have to be involved given the level of play seen in these vids
 
Edward Sargent said:
You have to wonder if the whole team including coaches were involved. If Calhoun had ever seen any of his guys playing as bad as 3 and 10 they'd have splinters in their arses from the bench
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When you're nearly a double digit underdog in the first half of a MAC game, playing like ass is sort of a given.
 
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Tenspro2002 said:
I would need a straitjacket after that one. Yikes.*

I lost a live bet on an Under last week because a team fouled intentionally while down 16(!) in the final minute. Makes you wonder if players or even coaches are manipulating spreads or totals.

*Actually, now that I think about this, that did happen to me. I had South Carolina beating the UConn women -4.5 or -5.5, and we cut like a 12 point lead to 4 in the final minute. I should have just bet the moneyline.
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Maybe stop betting on CBB?
 
Fishy said:
That's the insane part.

You're gonna put six figures on props bets involving Tulane basketball?

Just drive yourself to the FBI office.
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These clearly aren't the brightest people. If Vegas put a betting line on Conn College vs. Wesleyan this crew would be rigging that game.
 
All the player prop stuff now is crazy. I never bet that stuff. I would think that would be easier to throw. Like if the player takes an under of 18 pts, when they get to 16, they might pass the ball more the final few mins. Or foul out.
 
Edward Sargent said:
Maybe stop betting on CBB?
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I'm up about 24K in 4 years doing this (not only CBB), so, uh

I Dont Think So Captain America GIF by Chris Cimino
 
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superjohn said:
These clearly aren't the brightest people. If Vegas put a betting line on Conn College vs. Wesleyan this crew would be rigging that game.
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My bet would definitely be on Conn College - all the Wesleyan kids were so weird.
 
GlastonTim said:
I certainly hope we NEVER see UConn players involved in any of this. Would totally suck! Personally I don’t like gambling, never have. I will say I always like when we don’t cover the spread, though. Gambling can make fans into a$&holes.
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Almost. Another reason I’m glad Etienne never committed. He’s one of the charged defendants.
 
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