2026 Recruiting: Colben Landrew Official Visit (10/3)

[boog204]

Are we still seriously discussing this? Won't someone think of the children?

 

[Nameless]

We're first!

(I thought it might be alphabetical but Ole Miss is to the right of Purdue. So maybe order is meaningful.)

While I try not to look into these things too much, I had the same thought. All reports I've heard are it's down to us and Louisville. Those are the 2 first teams with the good guys out in front... Fingers crossed. I really like Landrew

 

[RuffRuff]

I can't tell if you're being deliberately obtuse or just unwittingly obtuse.

You previously screenshotted two graphics that directly refute your reply above.

C'mon man - we need Solo out there running point because if JC was here he'd be sculpting him into the next Russ. He'd be nursing from the JC teet as a wee frosh, soaking in all those PG enzymes while being blindfolded dribbling a basketball rolled in butter, and juggling a bowling pin in the other hand. Don't you know that JC was all about development? The winning, eh, that came because everyone was developed. JC treated his program like basketball puberty - you'd come in with none and leave with a full set with basketballs dangling from the ends.

Screw Silas and Smith, let those stale transfers ride the pine. What we need right now to maximize this groups NBA potential is for Solo to be weaving and spinning through the lane with his newly taught handle.

 

[Nameless]

Jordan Hawkins is a specialist, 3 pt shooting. He's shown little else in his game. Jordan Hawkins shot 33% from 3 last year. Al Horford shot better than that from 3 the last 10 years, over 40% in a couple years. When you're a specialist at something, you have to be really good at it.

And it's Hurley's fault Hawkins is one dimesional two years out. We really got to get Hurley out of here. The guy is all about winning at the college level, leaving lasting memories for Uconn fans, and not nearly enough about the journey of making our guys great NBA players. Guy needs to go ASAP. I Jeff Calhoun coaching these days, available?

I do realize he's a specialist, and at this point he has shown little to make anyone think he's more than that. I know the 33% is bad. But he was at 36.6% the year before, which isn't. It was still on over 4 attempts per game too which isn't a small sample size and only 1 less attempt than this past season. I think Hawkins is a good shooter, but even elite shooters have down seasons (Lillard was over 40% for 2 seasons combined then shot 32% out of nowhere one season in Portland) so I can see this past season being a "sophomore slump" if you will.

I was more making the point he seems to be the type of guy that needs minutes and shots to be effective. It's why I mentioned him having poor shooting games here that he shot himself out of as the game went on. Case in point, his first 7 games last year he played over 31mpg and averaged about 17.6ppg on 37.5% from deep. His minutes fell off after that and his shooting percentages followed. IIRC, the same thing happened his rookie season when some vets returned from injuries early in the year. A counterpoint to all of this is his minutes did increase again towards the end of the season, but overall the numbers didn't climb back up to where they were early in the year (10.7ppg, 33.7% in about 25mpg.)

I just think some people are too hard on him. He can play, just think he needs to keep developing and for that he needs consistent minutes. I still think his floor is having a long career as a shooter off the bench, and he has the potential to grow into a starter on a good team.

My comment had nothing to do with you and 611's argument, so unsure why you included the second part.

 

[superjohn]

I'll be the first to acknowledge I haven't watched the NBA much for the past 5-6 years. So perhaps I'm missing something. But I don't understand why some people speak of Hawkins as if he's a bust already (not saying that's what you're doing, just talking about the general sentiment.) He's shown flashes of being a really productive scorer, but he's streaky. That's exactly who he was at UConn his sophomore year. It's crazy to look back at his stats and see he shot a tick under 41% overall that season, because he is such a sniper when he's on. But there were some games he was just off, as well as some games where he was off most of the game but was able to shoot himself out of it towards the end. The numbers reflect that. I get that his shooting splits are even lower in the NBA, but he is still just under 35% from deep through 2 seasons and was over 36% his first season. The potential as a shooter is still there, as he's only 23.

Again, I haven't watched the Pelicans or the NBA much for awhile. I'm unsure of the exact role he plays for the team. But I think he could maybe benefit from going to a team that has no playoff hopes for a season and being one of the core players. Not necessarily a star, but a guy playing 30min/night on a team that is just looking to develop young guys and get a good draft slot as they reset/rebuild.

People speak of him as being a bust because he's been a bust so far. All he does is shoot and he's bad at it. He was tied for the worst shooter in the league last season.

 

[RuffRuff]

I do realize he's a specialist, and at this point he has shown little to make anyone think he's more than that. I know the 33% is bad. But he was at 36.6% the year before, which isn't. It was still on over 4 attempts per game too which isn't a small sample size and only 1 less attempt than this past season. I think Hawkins is a good shooter, but even elite shooters have down seasons (Lillard was over 40% for 2 seasons combined then shot 32% out of nowhere one season in Portland) so I can see this past season being a "sophomore slump" if you will.

I was more making the point he seems to be the type of guy that needs minutes and shots to be effective. It's why I mentioned him having poor shooting games here that he shot himself out of as the game went on. Case in point, his first 7 games last year he played over 31mpg and averaged about 17.6ppg on 37.5% from deep. His minutes fell off after that and his shooting percentages followed. IIRC, the same thing happened his rookie season when some vets returned from injuries early in the year. A counterpoint to all of this is his minutes did increase again towards the end of the season, but overall the numbers didn't climb back up to where they were early in the year (10.7ppg, 33.7% in about 25mpg.)

I just think some people are too hard on him. He can play, just think he needs to keep developing and for that he needs consistent minutes. I still think his floor is having a long career as a shooter off the bench, and he has the potential to grow into a starter on a good team.

My comment had nothing to do with you and 611's argument, so unsure why you included the second part.

The 36% by NBA standards is pretty low.

 

[alphasigko]

Solo and Reibe would be running point, Jayden Ross would be starting 2 guard playing all 40 minutes.

FIFY

 

[uconngb]

Jordan Hawkins total FGA% that year.

50.7% from the above the break 3.
- 22% higher than the average D1 player

11% from midrange 2s
- 2% lower than the average D1 player

10% from in the paint
- 9% lower than the average D1 player

15.5% at the the rim
- 14.6% lower than the average D1 player

Let’s look at Solo for fun.

53.6% from above the break 3.
- 24% higher than the average D1 player

5% from midrange 2s
- 6% lower than the average D1 player

12% from in the paint
- 7% lower than the average D1 player

20% at the rim
- 11% lower than the average D1 player

Almost like these things are a trend or something

Here’s some pretty visual charts to go with it.

talk about fabricated statistics.....than the average D1 player? or the average D1 SHOOTING GUARD??

I bet we all know the answer to that

This is what is known as Data Mining. No one is falling for it. But keep going.....you somehow continue to establish new lows for yourself

 

[Fan1978]

Andre was done developing. He is the player he is, basically. He just isn't wired to score.

Donovan is killing it in the league.

Hawkins not being able to shoot in the league was a surprise to most folks. He's just not big enough for the league. A year at UConn wouldn't have changed that.

I guess we have a different idea of killing it. Hawkins problems are lack of confidence. His stroke is amazing. Another year could have solved that issue. His 3 point percentage Was 38 percent at uconn? Stroke says 45.

 

[Magic32]

 

[Excalibur]

I guess we have a different idea of killing it. Hawkins problems are lack of confidence. His stroke is amazing. Another year could have solved that issue. His 3 point percentage Was 38 percent at uconn? Stroke says 45.

Hawkins takes a lot of contested 3s off of movement. He did the same here, but the guys he was shooting over weren't for the most part NBA level defenders.

 

[HW611]

I can't tell if you're being deliberately obtuse or just unwittingly obtuse.

You previously screenshotted two graphics that directly refute your reply above.

Learning that being below D1 average at something is satisfactory now.

Got it.

 

[StllH8L8ner]

C'mon man - we need Solo out there running point because if JC was here he'd be sculpting him into the next Russ. He'd be nursing from the JC teet as a wee frosh, soaking in all those PG enzymes while being blindfolded dribbling a basketball rolled in butter, and juggling a bowling pin in the other hand. Don't you know that JC was all about development? The winning, eh, that came because everyone was developed. JC treated his program like basketball puberty - you'd come in with none and leave with a full set with basketballs dangling from the ends.

Screw Silas and Smith, let those stale transfers ride the pine. What we need right now to maximize this groups NBA potential is for Solo to be weaving and spinning through the lane with his newly taught handle.

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[superjohn]

I guess we have a different idea of killing it. Hawkins problems are lack of confidence. His stroke is amazing. Another year could have solved that issue. His 3 point percentage Was 38 percent at uconn? Stroke says 45.

He's never been a 40% three point shooter and he shot 50% from three in the NCAA tournament. His stock was as high as it was going to get and he would've been a fool if he came back.

 

[Iluvsuebird]

I'll be the first to acknowledge I haven't watched the NBA much for the past 5-6 years. So perhaps I'm missing something. But I don't understand why some people speak of Hawkins as if he's a bust already (not saying that's what you're doing, just talking about the general sentiment.) He's shown flashes of being a really productive scorer, but he's streaky. That's exactly who he was at UConn his sophomore year. It's crazy to look back at his stats and see he shot a tick under 41% overall that season, because he is such a sniper when he's on. But there were some games he was just off, as well as some games where he was off most of the game but was able to shoot himself out of it towards the end. The numbers reflect that. I get that his shooting splits are even lower in the NBA, but he is still just under 35% from deep through 2 seasons and was over 36% his first season. The potential as a shooter is still there, as he's only 23.

Again, I haven't watched the Pelicans or the NBA much for awhile. I'm unsure of the exact role he plays for the team. But I think he could maybe benefit from going to a team that has no playoff hopes for a season and being one of the core players. Not necessarily a star, but a guy playing 30min/night on a team that is just looking to develop young guys and get a good draft slot as they reset/rebuild.

Maybe because the Pels acquired several players that play his position since drafting him.

 

[RuffRuff]

He's never been a 40% three point shooter and he shot 50% from three in the NCAA tournament. His stock was as high as it was going to get and he would've been a fool if he came back.

If you’re a lock for the first round, you go. I don’t care if you’re not “ready”, which is subjective. You figure out how to advance your game with top of the line coaches at the NBA level.

Hurley’s only job is to get you drafted, after than it’s on the kid. You telling me all these NBA stars killing it from UK are because of Cals one year of “development”? It’s hogwash.

 

[UConnTrumbull]

Respectfully can we keep this about Landrew? Nothing is stopping anyone from creating a new thread called “Can Hurley Develop Talent?” Gracias.

 

[Mr. French]

Respectfully can we keep this about Landrew? Nothing is stopping anyone from creating a new thread called “Can Hurley Develop Talent?” Gracias.

That’s a quick thread, the answer is OBVIOUSLY no.

 

[husky429]

I guess we have a different idea of killing it. Hawkins problems are lack of confidence. His stroke is amazing. Another year could have solved that issue. His 3 point percentage Was 38 percent at uconn? Stroke says 45.

I said Clingan is killing it and then you talked about Hawkins. You lost me, buddy.

 

[CL82]

That’s a quick thread, the answer is OBVIOUSLY no.

It's like he doesn't know us at all.

 

[nomar]

Are we still seriously discussing this? Won't someone think of the children?

 

[Nameless]

The 36% by NBA standards is pretty low.

It used to be considered the low range of what was considered a good shooter. But you're right, the league has improved overall and 36-37% is more of an average shooter from deep by today's standards

 

[Nameless]

People speak of him as being a bust because he's been a bust so far. All he does is shoot and he's bad at it. He was tied for the worst shooter in the league last season.

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First, thanks for sharing that graphic. I didn't realize his overall fg% was last in the league and definitely adds some context.

I guess I would just define a "bust" differently. A bust to me is a guy who looks like he has no business in the league, one that hardly if ever shows flashes. Or a guy who based on how he performs should have been drafted significantly lower. Anthony Bennett is a good example of the former, Darko of the latter. I don't think Hawkins belongs in the first group since he has dropped 20+ points 13 times and 30+ twice in his career thus far, and has had stretches of efficient play. I don't think he belongs in the latter because he was drafted 14th, the end of the lottery can be a crapshoot and I do think he will stick around in the league.

 

[RuffRuff]

First, thanks for sharing that graphic. I didn't realize his overall fg% was last in the league and definitely adds some context.

I guess I would just define a "bust" differently. A bust to me is a guy who looks like he has no business in the league, one that hardly if ever shows flashes. Or a guy who based on how he performs should have been drafted significantly lower. Anthony Bennett is a good example of the former, Darko of the latter. I don't think Hawkins belongs in the first group since he has dropped 20+ points 13 times and 30+ twice in his career thus far, and has had stretches of efficient play. I don't think he belongs in the latter because he was drafted 14th, the end of the lottery can be a crapshoot and I do think he will stick around in the league.

Big year for him - needs to show something or likely headed towards bust territory. It doesn't help that he went to the true armpit of the NBA in NO. They're kinda right there with Charlotte in terms of where you don't want to land.

Best case may be that he's sent somewhere that can help redirect him a bit.

 

[Samoo]

Coaches have no responsibility to prepare the players properly for the NBA. Got it.

Red herring, that is not what he said.