Coaching wins

[RegisteredUconn]

So, something that is supposedly very rare is likely to happen twice on the very same day. Strange!

IF both teams win on Tues., who gets to 1000 first?

 

[Plebe]

IF both teams win on Tues., who gets to 1000 first?

Hatchell's game is 5 hours earlier in the day. UNC plays at 2pm ET, UConn at 7.

 

[Vowelguy]

Dang it, I was hoping UW could pull that one out.

Did Hatchell get credited for the wins during the 2014-15 season?

Yes

 

[Vowelguy]

So, something that is supposedly very rare is likely to happen twice on the very same day. Strange!

Not supposedly rare.
It IS rare.

 

[GregP]

Two hitting the 1000 win mark in one day is great, BUT lets keep in mind not in the same time frame of coaching. Geno is in his 32nd year of coaching, where as Hatchell is in her 42nd year. So Geno did beat her by a few years. I wonder what Geno's count will be in ten years (1400 ). I think I counted the years right??? If I didn't I am sure someone will make the correction.

 

[Vowelguy]

Down goes Stanford

1. Summitt . 1098
2. Tara .. . 1012 + 06 =1018 (nx:.... ... .. | 12/21 Tenn | 12/29 UCLA
3. Geno .. .. 991 + 08 = 999 (nx: 12/19 Okla | 12/22 vDuq | 12/31 Memp
4. Hatchell . 990 + 09 = 999 (nx: 12/19 Grmb | ... ... ...| 12/28 Merc
5. Stevens .. 983 + 11 = 994 (nx: ... ... ...| ... ... ...| 12/30
6. Stringer . 977 + 12 = 989 (nx: ... ... ...| ... ... ...| 12/28 Pur
7. Conradt .. 900
8. Foster ... 886 + 07 = 893 (nx: 12/20 @Fla | 12/21 Prin | 12/28 Hmpt

Earliest these could happen:

• GA wins 1000th -- 12/19 Okla (My guess: 12/19)
• Hatchell @1000 -- 12/19 Grmb (My guess: 12/19) <- back to 19th
• Stevens @ 1000 -- 01/17 (My guess: Jan 2018)
• J Foster @ 900 -- 01/18 (My guess: Jan 2018)
• Stringer @1000 -- 02/04 (My guess: Nov 2018)
• TaraV ties PHS -- 2019-20 season

 

[Plebe]

Two hitting the 1000 win mark in one day is great, BUT lets keep in mind not in the same time frame of coaching. Geno is in his 32nd year of coaching, where as Hatchell is in her 42nd year. So Geno did beat her by a few years. I wonder what Geno's count will be in ten years (1400 ). I think I counted the years right??? If I didn't I am sure someone will make the correction.

I believe that Hatchell started at Francis Marion in 1975, which would make this her 43rd year.
Geno started at UConn in 1985, which would make this his 33rd year.

 

[Ex Nutmegger]

Sylvia may get to 1000 wins a few hours before Geno, But, by the end of this season she will be a tiny speck in his rear view mirror and recede completely by the end of next season.

As for Tara, on November 16 on this thread I predicted Geno would gain "10 or eleven" games on her this year. Now, after Stanford's loss to Western Illinois, and after revisiting my look at schedules, etc. I would respond to thoughts by Vowel Guy and Milford Husky on the Stanford loses to WI?!? thread that yes it's most likely that Geno will gain more like "12-15" (or maybe even 16!) games on her this season and trot right by her next year on his way up and over the Summit.

 

[chuck.r]

Two hitting the 1000 win mark in one day is great, BUT lets keep in mind not in the same time frame of coaching. Geno is in his 32nd year of coaching, where as Hatchell is in her 42nd year. So Geno did beat her by a few years. I wonder what Geno's count will be in ten years (1400 ). I think I counted the years right??? If I didn't I am sure someone will make the correction.

More than years or seasons coached, the more critical number is games coached, as multi-decade career coaches played 5 or more fewer scheduled games per season back in the day (plus the tournaments were shorter and had fewer rounds). Auriemma's 999 has occurred in 1134 total games coached; Hatchell's took 1375. This business of games coached will matter if and when Auriemma catches up to Summitt's 1098, as he will do so in likely 60+ fewer games.

 

[JavaMan]

Fun Fact Of The Day:

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[CL82]

Congrats to Hatchell for hitting the 1000 mark!

 

[GregP]

More than years or seasons coached, the more critical number is games coached, as multi-decade career coaches played 5 or more fewer scheduled games per season back in the day (plus the tournaments were shorter and had fewer rounds). Auriemma's 999 has occurred in 1134 total games coached; Hatchell's took 1375. This business of games coached will matter if and when Auriemma catches up to Summitt's 1198, as he will do so in likely 50-60 fewer games.

Confused which is normal for me but you are saying Summitt has 1198 wins? I was reading in other posts it is 1098. Help which is it?

 

[j66kicker]

Confused which is normal for me but you are saying Summitt has 1198 wins? I was reading in other posts it is 1098. Help which is it?

1098

Geno needs 6-7 more wins per year than Tara to get there before she does (this year + 2 more years). To me what matters more than who gets there first is whichever one continues coaching the longest will have the record for s long time.

 

[CTyankee]

1098

Geno needs 6-7 more wins per year than Tara to get there before she does (this year + 2 more years). To me what matters more than who gets there first is whichever one continues coaching the longest will have the record for s long time.

If Geno stays for 5 additional years, he should become the coach with the most wins in NCAA wbb history with somewhere around 1150 wins or more...

Tara is a year older than Geno. Tara's 38 year average is 26.36 per year; Geno's is 30.6. At the historical rates, he picks up 16 games on her in 4 years and in year 5 should surpass her even if she does not retire at 68.

 

[Vowelguy]

1098

Geno needs 6-7 more wins per year than Tara to get there before she does (this year + 2 more years). To me what matters more than who gets there first is whichever one continues coaching the longest will have the record for s long time.

Actually I think the person who breaks a longstanding record first gets etched in memory longer I think.

But ultimately the gold standard is most titles. On the men’s side John wooden still exists on a different plain even though he is nowhere near the wins leader.

 

[Topsail]

I figure Geno will have 1028 wins after this season then he should be able to break pat’s record in the 2020 NCAA tournament. In five additional years he should be over 1200 as his win percentage has increased in the past decade.

 

[j66kicker]

Actually I think the person who breaks a longstanding record first gets etched in memory longer I think.

But ultimately the gold standard is most titles. On the men’s side John wooden still exists on a different plain even though he is nowhere near the wins leader.

To me it's the person who ends up with the next longstanding record. In any case, Geno should get there first. I hope he stays around long enough to make it a lasting record too.

 

[Sluconn Husky]

If Geno stays for 5 additional years, he should become the coach with the most wins in NCAA wbb history with somewhere around 1150 wins or more...

Tara is a year older than Geno. Tara's 38 year average is 26.36 per year; Geno's is 30.6. At the historical rates, he picks up 16 games on her in 4 years and in year 5 should surpass her even if she does not retire at 68.

Geno was hinting at 70 the other day when asked. That would be 7 more seasons after the current one, and would just happen to coincide with the graduation year of Azzi Fudd.

 

[JustinesGuy]

Geno was hinting at 70 the other day when asked. That would be 7 more seasons after the current one, and would just happen to coincide with the graduation year of Azzi Fudd.

I think thats a good bet. I think Geno has one more 5 year contract in him and then Geno and CD will probably bow out. I don't see him out there at 75 plus, thats just not realistic for a lot of different reasons.

 

[Sluconn Husky]

I think thats a good bet. I think Geno has one more 5 year contract in him and then Geno and CD will probably bow out. I don't see him out there at 75 plus, thats just not realistic for a lot of different reasons.

I agree there. To be specific, Geno would turn 70 at the end of the 23/24 season in which Paige Bueckers would be graduating. Fudd would have one more year left, Geno's 70-71 years.

 

[Vowelguy]

FINALLY !

1. Summitt . 1098
2. Tara .. . 1012 + 06 =1018 (nx:.12/21 Tenn | 12/29 UCLA | 12/31 USC
3. Geno .. .. 991 + 09 =1000 (nx: 12/22 vDuq | ... ... .. | 12/31 Memp
4. Hatchell . 990 + 10 =1000 (nx: ... ... ...| 12/28 Merc | 12/31 @FSU
5. Stevens .. 983 + 11 = 994 (nx: ... ... ...| ... ... .. | 12/30
6. Stringer . 977 + 12 = 989 (nx: ... ... ...| 12/28 Pur } 12/31 @MchS
7. Conradt .. 900
8. Foster ... 886 + 08 = 894 (nx: 12/21 Prin | 12/28 Hmpt |

Earliest these could happen:

• Stevens @ 1000 -- 01/17 (My guess: Jan 2018)
• J Foster @ 900 -- 01/18 (My guess: Jan 2018)
• Stringer @1000 -- 02/04 (My guess: Nov 2018)
• TaraV ties PHS -- 2019-20 season

 

[Adesmar123]

For the longest time I was annoyed that Geno's 1,000 win would lose some shininess because of Hatchell's 1,000.

I have since come to feel sorry for Hatchell. Her major achievement is almost lost with the attention Geno is getting. I think rightfully so, but still a little sad.

 

[nwhoopfan]

Stringer has a decent shot at getting to 1,000 this season as well. 3 coaches hitting the mile stone in the same season, that would be crazy! (Well Stevens is almost certainly going to get there as well, so would be 4. I'm not familiar w/ her or her program, although obviously she's been very successful)

 

[Vowelguy]

Stringer has a decent shot at getting to 1,000 this season as well.

I'd say 50/50. She'd need a 9-7 conference season and then 2 post-season wins. I think she'll be very close.

 

[trb123]

For the longest time I was annoyed that Geno's 1,000 win would lose some shininess because of Hatchell's 1,000.

I have since come to feel sorry for Hatchell. Her major achievement is almost lost with the attention Geno is getting. I think rightfully so, but still a little sad.

I am not sad for her. She has an excellent chance to realize her thousand and one nights dream on 12/28 against the Southern conference stalwart the Mercer Bears in front of dozens of fans (may be a few hundred) at Dean Smith Center. If she wanted more attention, she could lose the game against Grambling and then win her 1000 at home next week.