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There are SO MANY schools in California though. Not much tradition at UCR. 3 Tourney appearances, '06, '07 and '10, all first round exits. They are just another generic school in the Big West, nothing about them stands out. And the WCC is probably several steps ahead of the Big West. There are a ton of prospects in California, some hidden gems might slip them, but seems like they are way down the pecking order.

The biggest issue to me though is overcoming the stigma from the previous HC.
in an interview with the Phoenix paper, Powell said she was won over by the vision of the new AD at UC Riverside, Tamica Smith Jones.

 
Interesting decision by the North Dakota AD, to cancel the WBB head coach search "in light of current events" and have the interim coach remain as such through the 2020-21 season.


About to post more about this elsewhere, but right now if you are an AD staring into the abyss of a huge revenue shortfall, and you can either keep your acting head coach on with a slight pay bump from their assistant coach's salary or spend time and money on a nationwide hiring search done by skype where you may have to offer competitive head coach salary, it's a no-brainer. Much harder calls will have to be made shortly down the road...
 
Karen Aston's contract expires 08/31/2020. Since we are now within 5 months of the expiration, I would anticipate an official announcement one way or the other tomorrow or Friday.

I did find the article announcing the details of her original contract:


If Aston ever is terminated, there is a provision that forces Texas to pay her a base salary of $337,500 multiplied by the number of years she has remaining on the agreement.
 
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Montana head coach won't return:


And yet the Texas AD would have us believe that he's too busy to dismiss a coach.

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I just have to say this - Arizona's OOC schedule included: North Dakota, UC Riverside, Montana

and Texas

Just sayin.
That is eerie.

Looking back, most Texas fans believe Adia Barnes had a great coaching audition in front of the Texas AD that Sunday afternoon in Austin; she left an impression, no doubt . . . :D
 
Karen Aston will not be extended, as I predicted. Sad for her. But, it's the right decision.

 
Karen Aston will not be extended, as I predicted. Sad for her. But, it's the right decision.


Holy cow.

It's about time.

She had a good thing going for a while. Recruited like gangbusters, but then couldn't deliver on player development and in-game coaching.
 
Holy cow.

It's about time.

She had a good thing going for a while. Recruited like gangbusters, but then couldn't deliver on player development and in-game coaching.
Pouring one out. Sub-par in-game coach and player developer, but seemed like a genuinely nice person

One assumes the replacement is waiting in the wings and will be announced shortly. Anyone got any thoughts on who it will be?
 
It will shock me if Texas doesn't hire someone from the PAC 12; they just don't pay their coaches well. Other schools in the SEC and ACC would have no problems matching any Texas financial offer.
 
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Pouring one out. Sub-par in-game coach and player developer, but seemed like a genuinely nice person

One assumes the replacement is waiting in the wings and will be announced shortly. Anyone got any thoughts on who it will be?
Texas fans are pretty unanimous that they appreciate how she always represented the university with class.

No one on the TX board has any inside info. People are just speculating and/or educated-guessing and/or wishful-thinking.
 
Texas fans are pretty unanimous that they appreciate how she always represented the university with class.

No one on the TX board has any inside info. People are just speculating and/or educated-guessing and/or wishful-thinking.
Well, then you know that Arizona's Adia Barnes is the overwhelming choice of the Texas fans . . .
 
I think Mark Campbell would be a good choice but not for Texas.

Barnes has just started making headway in her own program so would she really want to ditch it to start brand new? If Barnes did leave, would it be too late for McDonald to leave? Close is a bit like Aston2 but she's shown she can recruit well in Texas.
 
Seems like you'd have to offer her beaucoup bucks because (a) she went to Zona, (b) she is and made this program so it is hers for the foreseeable future, and (c) Tucson cost of living is a fraction of Austin's, so it's not just pay but also pay vs. cost of living.

At this point, seems like Arizona has the better basketball programs for both men and women. Not seeing Texas as an overly desirable lateral these days.
Not all coaches are in it for the highest salary they can get; everyone has different reasons for accepting/declining a job.

Yes, I realize Barnes and some of the other PAC 12 coaches have ties to their schools, states, regions, etc. But, we all know the PAC 12 is in trouble financially compared to the other P5 conferences. Raises for the coaches in all sports except football and men's basketball aren't gonna be huge in the coming years.

Barnes would be smart to at least "flirt" with Texas. At a minimum, it will get her a raise from her boss.

Texas was paying Gail Goestenkors $1 million a year back in 2007. We went on the cheap and hired Karen Aston for $600,000; a few years later, she's bumped up to $850,000 or so. If Texas is willing to offer its new head coach about $1.2 million, it will peek the interest of many coaches making half that amount in their current PAC 12 position.

A couple of years ago, no one expected Texas would be able to lure away Oregon's softball head coach, Mike White. But, we did. And, his program was Top 5 in the country and PAC 12 champions.
 
Maybe Texas will lure Tina Thompson back to Austin?

Based on her stellar run at Virginia? I'd say that would be a miss. Texas is going to want to go after some big fish. Mediocrity won't cut it in Austin.
 
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Who though? I can't see Barnes leaving Arizona just as she's built the program into a solid top team, Rueck leaving OSU (he's a native Oregonian and not a Texas type at all), Graves leaving Oregon (they CAN pay), Tara leaving Stanford, or Close leaving UCLA. Beyond those, other than maybe CTT, I don't see who's an attractive get?
I'm assuming you know how low of a salary Close is earning. I honestly can't fathom that salary with such a high cost of living in LA. Barnes is "new" to the head coaching world; maybe she his happy with her current salary (even though it's low). Graves is making a lot less than I thought he was earning.

Again, I think they would all listen (assuming they have agents advising them) to any interest from Texas. They very well could decline based on their priorities.
 
Based on her stellar run at Virginia? I'd say that would be a miss. Texas is going to want to go after some big fish. Mediocrity won't cut it in Austin.
Just my opinion, but it doesn't have to a be "big fish". Just someone who is s good x's and o's coach, a good/great recruiter, hard worker, and has some NCAA tourney success (or on the verge).
 
Given recent events, money-whipping a top name may not be much of an option, even for Texas. If all or part of the college football season is lost, the loss of revenue will be devastating for all other sports. I can't see an AD giving out a big money guarantee with the future so hazy. If Aston's contract hadn't been up, I highly doubt Texas would have made a move at this time.
 
I've started a separate thread here, as the Texas job probably deserves its own thread.

 
Just my opinion, but it doesn't have to a be "big fish". Just someone who is s good x's and o's coach, a good/great recruiter, hard worker, and has some NCAA tourney success (or on the verge).

In that vein, I'd suggest your AD have a look/talk with Tina Langley at Rice. She's pretty much resurrected that program at an academically presitigous school with an adept use of recruiting and transfers. Now might be a good time for her to make a move, given that her star player, Erica Ogwumike, is graduating. (Yes, she still has 6'9" Nancy Mulkey there for one more year).

Before Texas, she was associate head coach for Brenda Freese at Maryland, taking over the Jeff Walz slot. And before that, stints at Georgia (under Andy Landers) and Clemson.

Perhaps not the PAC12 firecracker, but perhaps a person ready to take the next step up. And given the uncertainty of how this event is going to affect college athletics, she probably wouldn't chew up a budget.
 
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Given recent events, money-whipping a top name may not be much of an option, even for Texas. If all or part of the college football season is lost, the loss of revenue will be devastating for all other sports. I can't see an AD giving out a big money guarantee with the future so hazy. If Aston's contract hadn't been up, I highly doubt Texas would have made a move at this time.
This times 1000. Stanford has one of the largest university endowments in the world, and this was the email that the provost just sent out yesterday:

To our Stanford community,

As we approach a new spring quarter in a dramatically changed world, I am writing to update you on several issues, including spring instruction, our plans for summer programs, and new steps we need to take to address the serious financial challenges to the university posed by COVID-19.

First, I want to acknowledge the magnitude of change that we all are living with right now. The scale of disruption created by the COVID-19 pandemic is unprecedented in most of our lifetimes. All of us are trying to work in new ways while dealing with interruptions to our plans and projects. Many of our undergraduate students have had to move on short notice. People across our community are caring for children at home or worrying about the health of loved ones. I deeply appreciate the grace, self-sacrifice and thoughtfulness for the well-being of others that I have seen across our community in this time of such profound challenge.

Stanford, as a community, also confronts a fundamentally changed environment. We must continue our work of educating students, developing new knowledge for the world and providing the best health care for patients. Our world needs these things urgently. But we need to do so in altered ways, and I am writing to explain some of those alterations.

The spring quarter

As you know, we are about to begin a fully online spring quarter – and though it will be online, we expect it to be an engaging and rigorous quarter for students. I’m grateful to our faculty, who are responding with vigor and creativity to the demand for new ways of teaching, deeply committed to supporting the continued academic success of our students.

Please know that we also will continue providing support services for our students, both those on campus and those studying from afar. Vaden, Residence Deans, Graduate Life Office deans, the Office of Accessible Education, community centers and our other staff in Student Affairs continue to be available to you. This is an especially important time to support our own and each other’s emotional well-being. CAPS, the Faculty Staff Help Center and our other support resources continue to be available to our community – please call on them.

In this period of significant disruption, while tuition remains unchanged for spring quarter, we are focused on providing financial assistance to students in need. More information on tuition and financial aid is available on our website for those who have questions. We do understand that family circumstances are changing, and we will work with students and families who are in financial distress due to the coronavirus pandemic to ensure you are able to continue your education at Stanford. We encourage you to reach out if you need help. Please be in touch with the Financial Aid Office or, for graduate students, the appropriate office within your school for assistance.

Summer programs and research

We do not expect to be able to offer on-campus residential programs this summer. The university’s Summer Session will be online-only. Other summer programs, for both youth and university-level students, that have an on-campus residential component generally will need to be shifted to an online-only format or otherwise be canceled. (Undergraduates who are currently approved to reside on campus for spring quarter will have the opportunity to request to remain for the summer if their circumstances require it.)

We are very sorry to have to take this additional step in response to COVID-19. Though the summer is a few months away, many summer program deadlines are approaching quickly. It appears increasingly likely that some level of social distancing will be needed for some time, and a return to “normal” campus activities will not be able to occur overnight. We have concluded that it simply is not feasible to proceed with normal programming this summer.

I know that many of you will have questions about specific programs offered during the summer. Many programs will need to make new plans. I am asking that each program provide information to its constituents within the next week about its updated plans for the summer and the implications for participants.

I also know that many in our community, including graduate students and postdocs, are eager to return to their normal research activities. While we hope to do this at the earliest opportunity, we do not yet know when it will be feasible. We are continually evaluating lab health and safety procedures in light of public health guidance, and we have resources available regarding remote work that can be done on sponsored research activities.

A challenging financial period

While we work to sustain our academic mission, Stanford must also now confront a serious financial challenge. Each day brings new evidence of massive economic disruptions now occurring across our nation as a result of COVID-19. While we are still evaluating the full dimensions of the challenge for Stanford, we know it will be significant.

The challenge begins in the current fiscal year, when we are seeing both increased costs associated with our pandemic response, as well as major loss of revenue from programs that are being canceled or curtailed. We also expect major financial impacts in FY21. The recent steep drop in the financial markets and likely continued market volatility almost certainly will significantly impact the university’s endowment, reducing resources available in the next academic year.

As Stanford’s leaders did during the last financial downturn of 2008-09, we will strive to make thoughtful choices that protect our community as best we can during the downturn while positioning us for a speedy recovery. We will need your partnership in confronting this challenge, as we work together to sustain an excellent educational program for our students, and an excellent research ecosystem that addresses our world’s pressing demands for new knowledge, while supporting our community.

While our full response will evolve over time, given the impacts we already know will occur we are taking the following initial steps now:
  • Senior leadership pay reduction: The President and I are taking a voluntary base pay reduction of 20% each. We are asking members of the Cabinet, the senior leadership of the university, to take voluntary base reductions of 5-10% each.
  • Salary freeze: We are freezing faculty and staff salaries immediately. Increases will not be provided during the next year other than those required by a collective bargaining agreement, or those required in exceptional circumstances with the approval of a Dean, the Provost or the President.
  • Faculty and staff hiring pause: As previously announced, we are asking that faculty searches and hiring for staff positions be paused.
  • Continuation of support for graduate students: Many graduate students rely on summer educational programs as a source of income. Many programs will not go forward as planned. We are asking all departments and programs to work with graduate students in this situation to explore alternate work opportunities and sources of support.
  • Summer earnings waiver for undergraduates: Many undergraduates who receive financial aid are expected to contribute summer earnings to their cost of attendance. The summer earnings expectation will be waived for all new incoming students and continuing undergraduates for summer 2020.
  • Pay continuation for staff: At this time, we continue to provide pay continuation for our regular full-time and benefits-eligible part-time employees, including those whose regular work has been disrupted by the COVID-19 pandemic. This includes the food service workers and custodians directly employed by R&DE in student residences. Because we are seeking to minimize impacts to our regular workforce to the greatest extent possible, we unfortunately are not able to extend additional commitments to others including workers who are employed by a contractor.
  • Discretionary spending: We are asking all units to re-evaluate their discretionary spending and pull back on all spending that is not critical to ongoing operations.
  • Capital projects: All capital projects are on hold during the current “shelter in place” with the exception of projects deemed essential by the county. All other projects are being re-evaluated to determine whether and when they should proceed. No new capital projects will be approved at this time.
These words are painful for me to write, and I anticipate they are difficult for you to read. We expect to get more clarity in the weeks ahead about the details of the financial picture for the university and the further steps we need to take in response. I will continue to be in touch with you as we learn more, and as we work to make decisions to sustain our 129-year mission of teaching and research for the benefit of the wider world.

Thank you for everything you are doing to support one another during this extraordinary time for our nation and world, and for our university.

Sincerely,

Persis Drell
Provost

Tl;dr: Huge financial cuts ahead, salary freezes, pay cuts, faculty and staff hiring pause, and many capital projects will be "re-evaluated to determine whether or when they should proceed."

I truly don't think folks realize how screwed higher education is about to be. I can't see any universe where the Texas AD can responsibly extend a $1.2m contract for a WBB coach in this climate, let alone a large fraction of that.
 
In that vein, I'd suggest your AD have a look/talk with Tina Langley at Rice. She's pretty much resurrected that program at an academically presitigous school with an adept use of recruiting and transfers. Now might be a good time for her to make a move, given that her star player, Erica Ogwumike, is graduating. (Yes, she still has 6'9" Nancy Mulkey there for one more year).

Before Texas, she was associate head coach for Brenda Freese at Maryland, taking over the Jeff Walz slot. And before that, stints at Georgia (under Andy Landers) and Clemson.

Perhaps not the PAC12 firecracker, but perhaps a person ready to take the next step up. And given the uncertainty of how this event is going to affect college athletics, she probably wouldn't chew up a budget.

In the other thread re Texas I suggested Bernabei-McNamee from BC. The price is right and, even though it's her first year at BC, her history suggests she would be flexible re moving.
 
In the other thread re Texas I suggested Bernabei-McNamee from BC. The price is right and, even though it's her first year at BC, her history suggests she would be flexible re moving.

Hah! We owe each other a beer :D I just replied to you. Both are from the Maryland coaching tree (which can certainly help with recruiting). I like Langley simply because she's five years into her assignment at Rice and is located in Texas (Houston) and is hopefully more familiar with the recruiting circles there. I love Bernabei-McNamee at BC and thinks that her ability to coach up will become even more of a value once she extends her recruiting reach (hint for BC, coach: visit the Catholic Schools at the Jersey shore, early and often).
 
According to this, from 2016-17, the difference in total compensation between Close and Aston was less than $50k apart...

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(total compensation is the last column on the right - as you can see, Aston's base salary was higher, but Close had more in "other" compensation)
Karen receive a raise in Fall 2017 which bumped her up from $600k to $850k.

Don't forget to factor in that Texas has no state income tax like California does, and the cost of living in Austin is significantly less than in LA. :D
 
Not all coaches are in it for the highest salary they can get; everyone has different reasons for accepting/declining a job.

Yes, I realize Barnes and some of the other PAC 12 coaches have ties to their schools, states, regions, etc. But, we all know the PAC 12 is in trouble financially compared to the other P5 conferences. Raises for the coaches in all sports except football and men's basketball aren't gonna be huge in the coming years.

Barnes would be smart to at least "flirt" with Texas. At a minimum, it will get her a raise from her boss.

Texas was paying Gail Goestenkors $1 million a year back in 2007. We went on the cheap and hired Karen Aston for $600,000; a few years later, she's bumped up to $850,000 or so. If Texas is willing to offer its new head coach about $1.2 million, it will peek the interest of many coaches making half that amount in their current PAC 12 position.

A couple of years ago, no one expected Texas would be able to lure away Oregon's softball head coach, Mike White. But, we did. And, his program was Top 5 in the country and PAC 12 champions.
But White could not deliver the goods in the world series. They flopped every year and froze up because he put so much pressure on them. I guess if conference championships and a Bobby Knight style is what you want more power to everyone.
 
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