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Well, he lost a much needed recruit to Cincinatti, last I checked they're in the AAC.

Weak conference or not, we have significantly more pedigree than Rutgers or St. John's.

Our worst years is an improvement for them.
 
Javjudah said:
Irrelevant, but I have been a fan for about 30 years.
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Okay. Your thought process sounds really young and I didn't want to be critical of it if you were a kid.
 
CL82 said:
Okay. Your thought process sounds really young and I didn't want to be critical of it if you were a kid.
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Very cute. I was thinking the same, it seems as though your thought process sounds really young and your mind and perception is stuck in a box. I don't play checkers, I play chess.
 
CL82 said:
The fact that he won a natty under challenging circumstances for both the program and the team sure seems relevant to me. He's been there and that has value. Not a guarantee certainly, but it has value.
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There's an enormous difference between what middle-aged fans value and what 18-year-old recruits value.

No recruit gives a s*** about how KO won a championship under difficult circumstances. They care about how much buzz, hype, and exposure they get, and about whether the coach is likely to help or hinder their goals at the next level. Recruits today take notice of the fact that:
1) UConn has been irrelevant on the national stage for 3 years, aside from maybe a tiny blip in March 2016 when we won 4 games in a row and had a little momentum and buzz
2) KO in 5 years has gotten one(!) player drafted in the first round, and that player is on his 3rd team in 4 years and might not see a second contract

KO will always have that championship, and we fans will always treasure it and his role in bringing it to fruition. But it doesn't do d*** for us on the recruiting trail.
 
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HooperScooper said:
I don't care at all about the little pissing match but that is a very douchey saying. I once had a salesman use that line on me. It's just so douchey (I can't think of a better word).
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Its your opinion but it must have had some effect on you as you still have that encounter in your memory.
 
Javjudah said:
Let's be honest the All American conference is hurting recruiting in a major way. I remember Coach Calhoun saying he sold recruits on playing against Georgetown, Syracuse, St. John's... and playing in the Big East conference. Eventually we start winning and it became easier to recruit. It was definitely difficult to get top recruits to come to UCONN prior.
With this new generation no one cares about what you did years ago they care about now. Some may say UCONN is in the middle of no where, they play in the All American conference... The question is what are we selling that no else can? Come on people put your affinity for UCONN aside this is an uphill battle Coach Ollie is fighting. He will figure it out.
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Let's be honest. Losing to Wagner and Northeastern is the thing that hurt us the most.
 
As a fan I like to look at things from all angles or like every move in a chess game there is a reaction. I am not on here to disrespect anyone just give my opinion, but I will not accept being disrespected.
 
Palatine said:
Let's be honest. Losing to Wagner and Northeastern is the thing that hurt us the most.
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I agree those losses hurt but it's not how you start it's how you finish. Majority of the players were new to the team. It takes time to jell... UCONN is always known as finishers, February, March and April belongs to us.
 
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Tenspro2002 said:
There's an enormous difference between what middle-aged fans value and what 18-year-old recruits value.

No recruit gives a s*** about how KO won a championship under difficult circumstances. They care about how much buzz, hype, and exposure they get, and about whether the coach is likely to help or hinder their goals at the next level. Recruits today take notice of the fact that:
1) UConn has been irrelevant on the national stage for 3 years, aside from maybe a tiny blip in March 2016 when we won 4 games in a row and had a little momentum and buzz
2) KO in 5 years has gotten one(!) player drafted in the first round, and that player is on his 3rd team in 4 years and might not see a second contract

KO will always have that championship, and we fans will always treasure it and his role in bringing it to fruition. But it doesn't do d*** for us on the recruiting trail.
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Disagree. Pretty much any kid who is a D1 recruit in watching March Madness and certainly the championship game. They'd be either freshman or sophomore in HS in 2014 and Bazz and Boat had a great run. Connecticut player have had a great success in getting to the NBA, I have to believe that most these guys are aware of that. Connecticut's success is modern era, not in the 50's.
 
ConnHuskBask said:
It wasn't true the first 14 times you said it.

I'm sure recruits were blown away with Rutgers W/L record last season.
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I think some coaches will sell there soul for a recruit. Kevin Ollie wouldn't do that. Maybe Mathis was promised to start right away... I remember hearing a coach said to a recruit that coach Calhoun was sick and he was dying. Recruiting is cut throat and Kevin Ollie is not built like that. He's going to get his fair share of kids that believe his message. One thing for certain is he's not promising a starting job to anyone.
 
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UC313 said:
I just made a trade for an original set of jarts myself. I need a couple of new wings though.
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Probably taken off for safety reasons.
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Ollie either needs to learn how to close or needs an SEC style bag man. If not, we might as well enjoy the history for what it was and settle for the occasional NIT title.
 
Javjudah said:
Let's be honest the All American conference is hurting recruiting in a major way. I remember Coach Calhoun saying he sold recruits on playing against Georgetown, Syracuse, St. John's... and playing in the Big East conference. Eventually we start winning and it became easier to recruit. It was definitely difficult to get top recruits to come to UCONN prior.
With this new generation no one cares about what you did years ago they care about now. Some may say UCONN is in the middle of no where, they play in the All American conference... The question is what are we selling that no else can? Come on people put your affinity for UCONN aside this is an uphill battle Coach Ollie is fighting. He will figure it out.
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If it was all about the conference, why did UConn have like the #6 ranked recruiting class in nation just a couple years ago, and a top 25 class the following year before the de-commit? The conference excuse by itself would work if we never recruited great players before in the AAC. The reason not conference but that's a handy excuse
 
CL82 said:
Disagree. Pretty much any kid who is a D1 recruit in watching March Madness and certainly the championship game. They'd be either freshman or sophomore in HS in 2014 and Bazz and Boat had a great run. Connecticut player have had a great success in getting to the NBA, I have to believe that most these guys are aware of that. Connecticut's success is modern era, not in the 50's.
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I just saw this quote from an article on new UConn transfer AA:

He said that Flynn and Kemba Walker were his two favorite players growing up

What? He was a fan of Kemba? Impossible! HIgh school kids don't follow college basketball! :rolleyes:
 
CL82 said:
I just saw this quote from an article on new UConn transfer AA:

He said that Flynn and Kemba Walker were his two favorite players growing up

What? He was a fan of Kemba? Impossible! HIgh school kids don't follow college basketball! :rolleyes:
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He probably just saw Kemba breaking McGhee's ankles replayed over and over on Sports Center.
 
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Javjudah said:
Very cute. I was thinking the same, it seems as though your thought process sounds really young and your mind and perception is stuck in a box. I don't play checkers, I play chess.
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That's why your theories are, well let's just say provocative - we're talking about basketball here not board games.
 
Javjudah said:
I think some coaches will sell there soul for a recruit. Kevin Ollie wouldn't do that. Maybe Mathis was promised to start right away... I remember hearing a coach said to a recruit that coach Calhoun was sick and he was dying. Recruiting is cut throat and Kevin Ollie is not built like that. He's going to get his fair share of kids that believe his message. One thing for certain is he's not promising a starting job to anyone.
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In a recent article about Anderson, he was quoted as saying he was offered a starting position at Georgia Tech, NC State, Seton Hall... UCONN told him he has to work and earn his playing time. I bet this has happened many times where kids were offered starting position at other programs and we offered them to work hard and earn there playing time but they choose to take the easy way out.
 
UCweCONN said:
He probably just saw Kemba breaking McGhee's ankles replayed over and over on Sports Center.
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Oh you mean back when we used to have highlights on sportscenter?
 
CL82 said:
To suggest that winning natties 2011 and 2014 is ancient history to today's college players is just nonsense.
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That the program is in disarray and 4 players that committed decided to leave just a few months ago appears to have more weight.
 
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