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Clingan update 1/1/24

superjohn said:
You have to eat way more. Most people who say they can't gain weight/muscle simply aren't eating enough. People make it way more complicated than it is. No complicated movements, no fancy trainers, no gimmicky machines, no mass builders/protein shakes...just do the lifts which have been around forever...Bench press, overhead press, squats, deadlifts, rows, curls, pushdowns and eat a lot...

Eat a lot of protein along with carbs and fats and lift heavy and you get bigger. I've been lifting most of my life and I always see people who do the same exact exercises every time over the years and they always move the same amount of weight with the same reps. They never get results. I was guilty of this when I was younger. They're also probably working out on an empty stomach or had a bowl of cereal before working out. You should eat a couple of meals even before you step foot in the gym if you want to put on weight and muscle.
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I'm horrible about eating enough. When I was boxing and had to regain weight after a cut I would feel like a glutton ready to pop I had to eat so much. I had a worse time gaining back weight than I did losing it.
 
krinklecut said:
Which 2 or 3 guys on our roster do you think aren’t in the weight room? You’re so wrong it’s making my head spin. This is the worst take I’ve seen on the boneyard which is really saying a lot. Everyone including walk-ons has required time in the weight room with the S&C staff. They can’t choose to opt out of it.
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I'm sure some entitled 5* twerp at UK has refused to go to the weight room, but there is no way with our culture that anyone is skipping time with Gavin.
 
krinklecut said:
Also “I wonder if Donavan lifts” like…what? He’s huge. Do you know how strong you have to be to be that tall and have limbs that long that still have bulky muscle definition?
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Exactly. Also with limbs that long does one realize how long it would take for him to dramatically increase say his bench press? That's a lot of moving parts and small stabilizing muscles that need to get together to seriously increase weight quickly. I think people get confused with the amount of bulk you see on smaller, shorter limbed people. It is much easier to move weight with compact limbs which lends itself to adding bulk quickly.
 
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husky429 said:
I'm sure some entitled 5* twerp at UK has refused to go to the weight room, but there is no way with our culture that anyone is skipping time with Gavin.
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There is no 5* on any team in the country who is not lifting. Do you guys have any idea how strong you have to be to play D1 ball?
 
husky429 said:
Bulk comes from diet. I always find it funny when folks (usually women) talk about "not wanting to bulk" if they touch a 10lb dumb bell or squat the bar. It is SO HARD to gain significant muscle mass. Natty body builders work at it for years to show moderate growth. I've lifted 3x or more a week for 20 years and can't gain more than a couple pounds unless I go hard on calories and protein.
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Nothing used to drive me crazier than hearing some moron at the gym complaining that they didn't want to "get too big" by lifting heavy. Like "Oh I woke up this morning yoked as hell and I just wanted to get 'toned.'"
 
krinklecut said:
There is no 5* on any team in the country who is not lifting. Do you guys have any idea how strong you have to be to play D1 ball?
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Lol, you're just being purposefully obtuse now. But I get your general point. Of course D1 basketball players lift. Would I be surprised if some diva refused during the season? Nope.

To answer your question: yes.
 
husky429 said:
Lol, you're just being purposefully obtuse now. But I get your general point. Of course D1 basketball players lift. Would I be surprised if some diva refused during the season? Nope.

To answer your question: yes.
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I don’t think I’m the one being obtuse here. I can guarantee you that there is no one on Kentucky who has the latitude to skip out on their S&C program.
 
ColchVEGAS said:
Exactly. Also with limbs that long does one realize how long it would take for him to dramatically increase say his bench press? That's a lot of moving parts and small stabilizing muscles that need to get together to seriously increase weight quickly. I think people get confused with the amount of bulk you see on smaller, shorter limbed people. It is much easier to move weight with compact limbs which lends itself to adding bulk quickly.
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Is that why I don’t see any 7 ft bodybuilders or Olympic strongmen?:cool:
 
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phillionaire said:
lifting weights is the easy part. the hard part is eating enough and getting enough sleep.
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Agree. Most people (me included) don’t get enough protein. Minimum intake should be .8g /lb of body weight for the avg person. And probably closer to 1 or 1.2 for an athlete. So DC at 265 needs 265 g or protein. Which is really hard to do 50g at a time. That’s 5.5 high protein meals a day!
 
NJHusky said:
Is that why I don’t see any 7 ft bodybuilders or Olympic strongmen?:cool:
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Brian Shaw and Halfthor ha e gotta be up there in height. Maybe 6'8 or 6'9. They're .000001% genetic freaks though.
 
NJHusky said:
Agree. Most people (me included) don’t get enough protein. Minimum intake should be .8g /lb of body weight for the avg person. And probably closer to 1 or 1.2 for an athlete. So DC at 265 needs 265 g or protein. Which is really hard to do 50g at a time. That’s 5.5 high protein meals a day!
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Im shooting for 200g a day and it’s a struggle! I would have never thought eating a lot (albeit relatively healthy) could be so difficult. But then again the gains are worth it.
 
husky429 said:
Bulk comes from diet. I always find it funny when folks (usually women) talk about "not wanting to bulk" if they touch a 10lb dumb bell or squat the bar. It is SO HARD to gain significant muscle mass. Natty body builders work at it for years to show moderate growth. I've lifted 3x or more a week for 20 years and can't gain more than a couple pounds unless I go hard on calories and protein.

Basketball players definitely lift heavy though, particularly in the off-season. If you want to get strong, you need to lift heavy. There's no way around it.

College basketball programs aren't going to be having guys do olympic lifts or anything. Even deadlifts are off the table in many programs. But big compound movements like squats, cleans, trap bar deadlifts, presses, etc. are a part of the game.
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phillionaire said:
Im shooting for 200g a day and it’s a struggle! I would have never thought eating a lot (albeit relatively healthy) could be so difficult. But then again the gains are worth it.
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I find it easy to get fat
 
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REB1094 said:
Something nasty is going around. I got it a few weeks ago and a lot of my friends did too. Was hard to find the energy to even get out of bed for 1-2 days
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Just finishing battling covid myself, and been out of it since New Years.
 
REB1094 said:
Something nasty is going around. I got it a few weeks ago and a lot of my friends did too. Was hard to find the energy to even get out of bed for 1-2 days
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There was norovirus going around CT. We went down to visit family in CT on 12/16 and we found out that almost everyone there had it the week before. 30-36 hours later and almost all of us visiting had it too. Was not pleasant and took 3-4 days to get back to feeling normal.
 
phillionaire said:
Im shooting for 200g a day and it’s a struggle! I would have never thought eating a lot (albeit relatively healthy) could be so difficult. But then again the gains are worth it.
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Getting enough healthy calories is hard. Getting calories is easy. Have a Frappuccino and baconator. Lol

It’s almost impossible to get enough protein for me without at least 1 protein shake a day. Sometimes 2
 
REB1094 said:
Something nasty is going around. I got it a few weeks ago and a lot of my friends did too. Was hard to find the energy to even get out of bed for 1-2 days
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I can confirm this, it’s pretty intense.
 
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Greedo said:
These days you're hard pressed to find a high school athlete that isn't lifting. Did I time travel to the '60s?
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This isn’t totally relevant but I love the story: had a buddy at UConn in a strength training program. One of the professors had been at Penn St. back in the later Paterno days when he was just a figurehead. Paterno apparently had a VERY antiquated view of weight lifting to the point that the whole weight room would pretend to switch to his “program” whenever he walked in the weight room and then when he left, everyone would go right back to the real weight program.
 
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