Clingan update 1/1/24

[Improviser]

You're thinking of Sam Bowie.

Sam Bowie, Greg Oden, Bill Walton, all with a Portland connection.

Just an odd coincidence.

 

[ARIDE]

Not much of an update..just some Debbie Downers!!!

 

[LBird33]

You're thinking of Sam Bowie.

And Bill Walton

 

[ibleedhuskyblue]

I can't tell if this is serious. Someone help me out

Pretty sure it is. This place is the worst.

Yes, he lifts. All the players have their weight training scheduled with coaches pretty much every day they have a practice, along with other sessions that aren't with a practice. It's all scheduled.

 

[uconnfan68]

Sam Bowie, Greg Oden, Bill Walton, all with a Portland connection.

Just an odd coincidence.

The water or the pot?

 

[boba]

The water or the pot?

Too much of one, not enough of the other?

 

[Huskyforlife]

Pretty sure it is. This place is the worst.

Yes, he lifts. All the players have their weight training scheduled with coaches pretty much every day they have a practice, along with other sessions that aren't with a practice. It's all scheduled.

I promise all the players don’t lift. Not saying Donovan is part of that group, but famously lots of basketball players do not touch weights.

 

[Marat]

I promise all the players don’t lift. Not saying Donovan is part of that group, but famously lots of basketball players do not touch weights.

Durant, Rip, etc....

 

[Palatine]

I read that Clingan lifts weights early in the morning like 6 AM as part of his daily routine.

 

[ibleedhuskyblue]

I promise all the players don’t lift. Not saying Donovan is part of that group, but famously lots of basketball players do not touch weights.

We're not talking about all players. This is about players on this team. DC, and everyone on the team have structured weight training on their schedule.

 

[krinklecut]

I promise all the players don’t lift. Not saying Donovan is part of that group, but famously lots of basketball players do not touch weights.

I promise you there isn’t a single player on our roster or any other D1 roster that doesn’t have required time in the weight room with the strength and conditioning staff dude what are you talking about.

 

[imno1]

I promise all the players don’t lift. Not saying Donovan is part of that group, but famously lots of basketball players do not touch weights.

I promise most every player these days follow a strength and conditioning program and definitely every high major D1 player does.

 

[husky429]

, but famously lots of basketball players do not touch weights.

That is simply not true anymore. A couple or a few guys who don't lift? Yeah sure, of course.... there's head cases in all walks of life. You're thinking about an era where players were smoking a pack a day too.

The overwhelming majority of D1 and professional players lift, and lift a lot. We're talking 99.9% here. Even D3 players are required to lift.

 

[husky429]

Durant, Rip, etc....

Both of those guys lift or lifted during their careers. KD even lifts on game days, and has for years. He lifted at Texas before his disastrous bench press in the combine too.

Google "Rip Hamilton weights"... there are dozens of hits of him talking about the weight room.

Just because you're natty and have a thin frame doesn't mean you aren't lifting.

 

[Rocktheworld]

That is simply not true anymore. A couple or a few guys who don't lift? Yeah sure, of course.... there's head cases in all walks of life. You're thinking about an era where players were smoking a pack a day too.

The overwhelming majority of D1 and professional players lift, and lift a lot. We're talking 99.9% here. Even D3 players are required to lift.

I think the vast majority of college players don’t lift, but I’m sure plenty of professionals don’t.

 

[husky429]

I think the vast majority of college players don’t lift, but I’m sure plenty of professionals don’t.

I can't tell if you're serious, but no. Essentially everyone lifts. Even Zion lifts (with a plate of emotional support cheeseburgers).

 

[Edward Sargent]

Just staying consistent with my work,” he said. “We had camp all week long, we put the work in, got a lot of shots up, we were in the gym lifting. So credit to the staff for putting in the time with us and it came to fruition.” (Hassan)

 

[Huskyforlife]

That is simply not true anymore. A couple or a few guys who don't lift? Yeah sure, of course.... there's head cases in all walks of life. You're thinking about an era where players were smoking a pack a day too.

The overwhelming majority of D1 and professional players lift, and lift a lot. We're talking 99.9% here. Even D3 players are required to lift.

I mean, I was thinking 2-3 out of 12-13 was a pretty significant number, but maybe I’m exaggerating. I’m more pushing back against the idea that “all” players lift weights, when I know some don’t, especially during the season.

 

[husky429]

I mean, I was thinking 2-3 out of 12-13 was a pretty significant number, but maybe I’m exaggerating. I’m more pushing back against the idea that “all” players lift weights, when I know some don’t, especially during the season.

Difference here might also be what we count as "lifting." A lot of guys aren't going to be doing big, heavy lifts during the season. More accessory/mobility/recovery work. I really doubt there are but a handful--if that--of players who aren't in the gym at all during the season.

In college, we never deadlifted or did heavy back squats during the season, but we would do plenty of power cleans, goblet squats w/ a heel lift, etc.

 

[LIUCHusky]

I mean, I was thinking 2-3 out of 12-13 was a pretty significant number, but maybe I’m exaggerating. I’m more pushing back against the idea that “all” players lift weights, when I know some don’t, especially during the season.

Who are those you know of that don’t lift?

 

[Hunt for 7]

You cannot go through a strength and conditioning program without lifting. I think everyone thinks that if you lift weights you bulk up. These guys do higher reps with less weight. BB lifting programs are much different than football weight lifting programs. You really have to consider the person. BB players are usually the tallest athletes and they can have slighter frames so you should not expect DC to look like a larger version of a body builder because that is not why he is lifting.

 

[JMick]

Difference here might also be what we count as "lifting." A lot of guys aren't going to be doing big, heavy lifts during the season. More accessory/mobility/recovery work. I really doubt there are but a handful--if that--of players who aren't in the gym at all during the season.

In college, we never deadlifted or did heavy back squats during the season, but we would do plenty of power cleans, goblet squats w/ a heel lift, etc.

Yeah exactly. Most guys will be banged up in some way throughout the course of a season and will be doing PT style lifts and resistance training.

 

[Edward Sargent]

Difference here might also be what we count as "lifting." A lot of guys aren't going to be doing big, heavy lifts during the season. More accessory/mobility/recovery work. I really doubt there are but a handful--if that--of players who aren't in the gym at all during the season.

In college, we never deadlifted or did heavy back squats during the season, but we would do plenty of power cleans, goblet squats w/ a heel lift, etc.

In one article I read we had the weights on the floor so that they could get their shots off after having lifted

 

[husky429]

You cannot go through a strength and conditioning program without lifting. I think everyone thinks that if you lift weights you bulk up. These guys do higher reps with less weight. BB lifting programs are much different than football weight lifting programs. You really have to consider the person. BB players are usually the tallest athletes and they can have slighter frames so you should not expect DC to look like a larger version of a body builder because that is not why he is lifting.

Bulk comes from diet. I always find it funny when folks (usually women) talk about "not wanting to bulk" if they touch a 10lb dumb bell or squat the bar. It is SO HARD to gain significant muscle mass. Natty body builders work at it for years to show moderate growth. I've lifted 3x or more a week for 20 years and can't gain more than a couple pounds unless I go hard on calories and protein.

Basketball players definitely lift heavy though, particularly in the off-season. If you want to get strong, you need to lift heavy. There's no way around it.

College basketball programs aren't going to be having guys do olympic lifts or anything. Even deadlifts are off the table in many programs. But big compound movements like squats, cleans, trap bar deadlifts, presses, etc. are a part of the game.

 

[Palatine]

Basketball is tricky. You use your very largest muscles to run down the court. Then you use some of your smallest muscles to shoot the ball. That's why conditioning is so important in basketball. Fatigue will quickly affect the muscles of the wrist, hand and fingers.

I was told by an elite trainer that basketball has a lot in common with combat. Soldiers often have to run carrying heavy packs then settle and immediately be still enough use their eyes and fingers in unison. It actually makes sense when you think about it.

 

[superjohn]

Bulk comes from diet. I always find it funny when folks (usually women) talk about "not wanting to bulk" if they touch a 10lb dumb bell or squat the bar. It is SO HARD to gain significant muscle mass. Natty body builders work at it for years to show moderate growth. I've lifted 3x or more a week for 20 years and can't gain more than a couple pounds unless I go hard on calories and protein.

Basketball players definitely lift heavy though, particularly in the off-season. If you want to get strong, you need to lift heavy. There's no way around it.

College basketball programs aren't going to be having guys do olympic lifts or anything. Even deadlifts are off the table in many programs. But big compound movements like squats, cleans, trap bar deadlifts, presses, etc. are a part of the game.

You have to eat way more. Most people who say they can't gain weight/muscle simply aren't eating enough. People make it way more complicated than it is. No complicated movements, no fancy trainers, no gimmicky machines, no mass builders/protein shakes...just do the lifts which have been around forever...Bench press, overhead press, squats, deadlifts, rows, curls, pushdowns and eat a lot...

Eat a lot of protein along with carbs and fats and lift heavy and you get bigger. I've been lifting most of my life and I always see people who do the same exact exercises every time over the years and they always move the same amount of weight with the same reps. They never get results. I was guilty of this when I was younger. They're also probably working out on an empty stomach or had a bowl of cereal before working out. You should eat a couple of meals even before you step foot in the gym if you want to put on weight and muscle.

 

[Samoo]

That is simply not true anymore. A couple or a few guys who don't lift? Yeah sure, of course.... there's head cases in all walks of life. You're thinking about an era where players were smoking a pack a day too.

The overwhelming majority of D1 and professional players lift, and lift a lot. We're talking 99.9% here. Even D3 players are required to lift.

Vlad the inhaler...

 

[phillionaire]

You have to eat way more. Most people who say they can't gain weight/muscle simply aren't eating enough. People make it way more complicated than it is. No complicated movements, no fancy trainers, no gimmicky machines, no mass builders/protein shakes...just do the lifts which have been around forever...Bench press, overhead press, squats, deadlifts, rows, curls, pushdowns and eat a lot...

Eat a lot of protein along with carbs and fats and lift heavy and you get bigger. I've been lifting most of my life and I always see people who do the same exact exercises every time over the years and they always move the same amount of weight with the same reps. They never get results. I was guilty of this when I was younger. They're also probably working out on an empty stomach or had a bowl of cereal before working out. You should eat a couple of meals even before you step foot in the gym if you want to put on weight and muscle.

lifting weights is the easy part. the hard part is eating enough and getting enough sleep.

 

[krinklecut]

I mean, I was thinking 2-3 out of 12-13 was a pretty significant number, but maybe I’m exaggerating. I’m more pushing back against the idea that “all” players lift weights, when I know some don’t, especially during the season.

Which 2 or 3 guys on our roster do you think aren’t in the weight room? You’re so wrong it’s making my head spin. This is the worst take I’ve seen on the boneyard which is really saying a lot. Everyone including walk-ons has required time in the weight room with the S&C staff. They can’t choose to opt out of it.

 

[krinklecut]

“Many don’t lift during the season” yes they absolutely all do. You would be right to say that a majority of the bulking comes in the off season, but it takes near daily lifting to maintain strength. I don’t know how you look at anyone on a D1 basketball team and think “yup that’s a body built by cardio only”

Also “I wonder if Donavan lifts” like…what? He’s huge. Do you know how strong you have to be to be that tall and have limbs that long that still have bulky muscle definition?

Also,