Cinci Post Game Thoughts

[Danzz]

This board is tiring at best. Purvis was by far our best player yesterday. Led the team in points, rebounds, steals, threes, and shooting percentage. And Brimah was our second best player. Cincy worked hard to neutralize Adams and to a large extent, they did. They also shot 50 percent from the field.

But this board, not understanding how to handle adversity, reaches for the same three scapegoats they always do; Purvis, Brimah, and Ollie. It couldn't have had anything to do with Cincy shooting lights out yesterday, especially with their bigs from distance. Nope. Had to be our scapegoats. So let's keep piling on. The shtick is tired...

Same crap by the same posters after every loss.

 

[BlueDogs]

What about Kelis Fisher missing bunnies?
What about VJ not looking for his shot when he was open?
What about CV lofting 3's in the early going?
AB was efficient at sporadic times - he dropped to many balls and his offensive game is the pits
KO has to go to the zone to protect the team from fouls and to preserve some stamina - a team that has not one but two big guys who can hit 3s will kill a zone
Are you counting having 3 top players of your recruiting class missing nearly the entire season due to injury (50%) in your flaw assessment?

The program is in serious trouble with Ollie at the helm. A ridiculous statement at best

Its clear you watched the game. You can go to zone but a zone should not be any less intense than man to man. Once you get burned by the 3 about a half dozen times, you have to adjust and extend and if they you beat in the interior at least you're giving 2. The sit back to avoid "fouls" is nonsense and you "res"t in a zone is too. Ollie's team is a mess with no execution or discipline. That's on him at this point in the season. Heck, a great coach can work with what he has and hold his own, and we do have talent. Its just poorly directed. Pete Carill at Princeton used to do it all day long with slower, smaller guys with great game planning and ball control. That doesn't exist at UConn. This is bad coaching. Those who refuse to recognize it when they see it can continue to lay it off on other excuses (and there are plenty I'll grant) but bad execution relates to none of them. He simply is not getting the best out of his players on any meaningfully consistent basis.

 

[mauconnfan]

Its clear you watched the game. You can go to zone but a zone should not be any less intense than man to man. Once you get burned by the 3 about a half dozen times, you have to adjust and extend and if they you beat in the interior at least you're giving 2. The sit back to avoid "fouls" is nonsense and you "res"t in a zone is too. Ollie's team is a mess with no execution or discipline. That's on him at this point in the season. Heck, a great coach can work with what he has and hold his own, and we do have talent. Its just poorly directed. Pete Carill at Princeton used to do it all day long with slower, smaller guys with great game planning and ball control. That doesn't exist at UConn. This is bad coaching. Those who refuse to recognize it when they see it can continue to lay it off on other excuses (and there are plenty I'll grant) but bad execution relates to none of them. He simply is not getting the best out of his players on any meaningfully consistent basis.

They were playing man most of the 3's I saw the only people "sitting back" as you say were the one's who were drifting mindlessly like Brimah, Facey and Enoch mostly. You're lost, have a reason not to like KO and maybe just don't know anything who knows. But if you saw your 4 years starter at the 5 play defense liker he did yesterday and think that's KO or anyone on the staffs fault you're ignorant.

Pete Carrill had different types of athletes, smarter basketball players. You're out of your mind if you think this team could run that offense or anything close. Just hateful ignorant post!

 

[mauconnfan]

If you think Amida needs help in the post than your sadly mistaken. The rest of the team including Kentan weren't defending either. Amida is the least of our problems on defense although yesterday was a bad defensive day for him but again that's coaching, will to win, leadership, pride. Amida is not suited for a zone defense nor is UCONN. Ollies strategies are the reason we look so bad and don't use the we only have 7 bodies to work with. All you need is 5 to win. Think how bad this team is and plays without Amida, it's night and day.

He wasn't suited for any defense yesterday he was lost all day - awful on that side. I will agree Facey was also bad as was Enoch. But Ollie's fine, check the mirror you're not!

 

[BlueDogs]

They were playing man most of the 3's I saw the only people "sitting back" as you say were the one's who were drifting mindlessly like Brimah, Facey and Enoch mostly. You're lost, have a reason not to like KO and maybe just don't know anything who knows. But if you saw your 4 years starter at the 5 play defense liker he did yesterday and think that's KO or anyone on the staffs fault you're ignorant.

Pete Carrill had different types of athletes, smarter basketball players. You're out of your mind if you think this team could run that offense or anything close. Just hateful ignorant post!

What does "hateful" have to do with anything? Grow up. Just because I think he's doing a terrible job doesn't equal hate, unless you're a millennial who can't handle disagreement. In terms of ignorance, by your own logic my assessment is correct...a lack of discipline and execution.

 

[mauconnfan]

What does "hateful" have to do with anything? Grow up. Just because I think he's doing a terrible job doesn't equal hate, unless you're a millennial who can't handle disagreement. In terms of ignorance, by your own logic my assessment is correct...a lack of discipline and execution.

Millenial - yeah I'm close. All you need to know is huskymagic agrees with you and no one on the BY respects anything he writes. But you're doing well, now I'll leave you to be I need to grow up! LOL funny

 

[huskymagic]

Millenial - yeah I'm close. All you need to know is huskymagic agrees with you and no one on the BY respects anything he writes. But you're doing well, now I'll leave you to be I need to grow up! LOL funny

Most of the Boneyard agrees with me it's only Ollie's apologists and clowns like you that don't not that anyone really cares. No one agreed with Copernicus or Galileo either didn't mean they weren't right. Bluedog is right in his assessment as am I and a few others who are stating the obvious trends. Save The false groupthink you are trying to impose on the yard for a time when Ollie does something post Napier.

PS: Jim Nosepicker Boeheim also uses basically 6 guys and with a 5 11 grad transfer point guard and has turned around the Cuses season. You don't need 10 guys to win although a nice luxury to have but of course keep on keeping on Ollie thanks you.

 

[mauconnfan]

Most of the Boneyard agrees with me it's only Ollie's apologists and clowns like you that don't not that anyone really cares. No one agreed with Copernicus or Galileo either didn't mean they weren't right. Bluedog is right in his assessment as am I and a few others who are stating the obvious trends. Save The false groupthink you are trying to impose on the yard for a time when Ollie does something post Napier.

PS: Jim Nosepicker Boeheim also uses basically 6 guys and with a 5 11 grad transfer point guard and has turned around the Cuses season. You don't need 10 guys to win although a nice luxury to have but of course keep on keeping on Ollie thanks you.

You're a total idiot, but hey keep believing it's a good thing.

 

[David 76]

He has been excellent for who he is, he had the ball on the rim and it just wouldn't go in. He didn't play very well it happens why hammer him?

Pretty tender description of missing bunnies my friend. I like Facey too but I think if AB missed those shots you wouldn't be giving him credit for getting it on the rim.

 

[David 76]

Yes injuring yourself or re-injuring yourself as soon as you step foot on campus is a flaw in and of itself. .

Yeah, I was just saying that to some Iraq vets yesterday. You should get beat up for this.

 

[mauconnfan]

Pretty tender description of missing bunnies my friend. I like Facey too but I think if AB missed those shots you wouldn't be giving him credit for getting it on the rim.

If he gets it to the rim he makes them now. Different players by far, Facey is smooth in making his way to the basket getting off one handers, jump hooks. Brimah is still a work in progress 4 years later - sorry it's just not close David. I will say this, they were both equally lost on D Saturday that's for sure. lol

 

[Candyman]

At least this can stop the threads about how good we after we beat the 3 worst teams conference. Their bigs just dominated ours. Yes Brimah had a decent game but you can't just let their bigs, who can shoot, take open threes because your not used to guarding out there. Thats not an excuse.

Cumberland is a knock down shooter that Cincy hasn't had before. They are very dangerous if Clark and the other big are hitting threes. I don't think we beat them with Gilbert, Larrier and Diarra. I know that won't be a popular opinion.

 

[BlueDogs]

You're a total idiot, but hey keep believing it's a good thing.

The sum total of your contributions are if you disagree about KO you must be "hateful" and you must be an "idiot." You want to argue over facts and events that suggest otherwise, be my guest. No one in their right mind wants anything but KO to be successful. I don't expect a great season, and he has a lot of challenges and things to point to as legitimate reasons for a poor record. However, within that context, there appear at least from my perspective to be some pretty significant "tells" indicating KO is not getting it done with what he does have. I'm not talking Ws, I'm talking on the court performance. There is poor discipline and execution which manifests itself in the inconsistency of play on both ends of the court. If you cant recognize poor play by good players, I don't know what to tell you. But the character assassination and vacuous snipes doesn't advance your case.

 

[jibsey]

At least this can stop the threads about how good we after we beat the 3 worst teams conference. Their bigs just dominated ours. Yes Brimah had a decent game but you can't just let their bigs, who can shoot, take open threes because your not used to guarding out there. Thats not an excuse.

Cumberland is a knock down shooter that Cincy hasn't had before. They are very dangerous if Clark and the other big are hitting threes. I don't think we beat them with Gilbert, Larrier and Diarra. I know that won't be a popular opinion.

There's no way to know who would win if we had a full house but I tend to agree. We often let our opponents take wide open 3's, all season long and I guess it has to do with our players getting fooled defensively as they help defend inside or get screened off. Many times those teams miss wide open shots anyway. Our record in the league is so misleading. The worst ACC team last place Pitt 1-9 would destroy us IMO, and yes I know we beat Cuse early by 2, but not now.

 

[David 76]

If he gets it to the rim he makes them now. Different players by far, Facey is smooth in making his way to the basket getting off one handers, jump hooks. Brimah is still a work in progress 4 years later - sorry it's just not close David. I will say this, they were both equally lost on D Saturday that's for sure. lol

I agree Facey is the more skilled player. I just think your patience with missed bunnies was different.

 

[mauconnfan]

The sum total of your contributions are if you disagree about KO you must be "hateful" and you must be an "idiot." You want to argue over facts and events that suggest otherwise, be my guest. No one in their right mind wants anything but KO to be successful. I don't expect a great season, and he has a lot of challenges and things to point to as legitimate reasons for a poor record. However, within that context, there appear at least from my perspective to be some pretty significant "tells" indicating KO is not getting it done with what he does have. I'm not talking Ws, I'm talking on the court performance. There is poor discipline and execution which manifests itself in the inconsistency of play on both ends of the court. If you cant recognize poor play by good players, I don't know what to tell you. But the character assassination and vacuous snipes doesn't advance your case.

i can recognize everything pal, you obviously can't separate your impatience with what is an inadequate group of Huskies vs what we are used to. I can recognize poor play by "good" players your problem is you have in clue what a "good" player is. I'm thinking you think Brimah is a "good" player and if you think so you're not very smart. Can you decipher a knowledgable player from a guy who will never get it? I think not but do continue to enlighten me with your wealth of knowledge - LOL

 

[mauconnfan]

I agree Facey is the more skilled player. I just think your patience with missed bunnies was different.

Agree to disagree, he made some solid moves and the ball hung on the rim. These weren't Brimah moves they were the real thing. You need to separate these 2 because one kid has improved and the other still is what he is.

 

[pj]

You're a total idiot, but hey keep believing it's a good thing.

I don't read more than 3 words into huskymagic's posts so I hadn't realized until you quoted him that he'd compared himself to Copernicus and Galileo. At least he hasn't compared you to Hitler (yet).

 

[BlueDogs]

i can recognize everything pal, you obviously can't separate your impatience with what is an inadequate group of Huskies vs what we are used to. I can recognize poor play by "good" players your problem is you have in clue what a "good" player is. I'm thinking you think Brimah is a "good" player and if you think so you're not very smart. Can you decipher a knowledgable player from a guy who will never get it? I think not but do continue to enlighten me with your wealth of knowledge - LOL

Again, your inability to communicate any substantive thought without descending into ad hominem personal insults suggests your intellectual capacity may be impaired.

As for Brimah, he has big challenges and is not a very good low or high post guy because he can't catch and has no real moves to create shot opportunities. His value is primarily defensive inside the paint. He's not even a very good offensive rebounding presence. The rest are high level, D-1, athletes that should be able to defend aggressively, move the ball and execute out of sets. They are not great scorers, but they are more than adequate to be competitive and avoid getting blown out against quality teams. Now, if the point is players are low quality, then you have undermined your argument as well, because there is a person with initials responsible for that.

Given the nature of your discourse, you sound like you've got it all figured out and you are headed for great success.

 

[mauconnfan]

Again, your inability to communicate any substantive thought without descending into ad hominem personal insults suggests your intellectual capacity may be impaired.

As for Brimah, he has big challenges and is not a very good low or high post guy because he can't catch and has no real moves to create shot opportunities. His value is primarily defensive inside the paint. He's not even a very good offensive rebounding presence. The rest are high level, D-1, athletes that should be able to defend aggressively, move the ball and execute out of sets. They are not great scorers, but they are more than adequate to be competitive and avoid getting blown out against quality teams. Now, if the point is players are low quality, then you have undermined your argument as well, because there is a person with initials responsible for that.

Given the nature of your discourse, you sound like you've got it all figured out and you are headed for great success.

You're close, I've already had great success my friend I am not headed for it but thank you anyway. And I do know I can accept a year of circumstances beyond the teams control and look forward to next without requiring a reason to seek out blame. But you would prefer to blame KO and the staff for a situation no college coach could do better with, that's your prerogative. They are not high level D1 athletes today as we speak and this would show your inability to recognize this but hey that's ok not everyone understands the game.

Thanks for your input feel free to keep thinking you know something though, it's cute!

 

[mauconnfan]

I don't read more than 3 words into huskymagic's posts so I hadn't realized until you quoted him that he'd compared himself to Copernicus and Galileo. At least he hasn't compared you to Hitler (yet).

Hitler of the BY? Wow hadn't thought of that, interesting.

 

[champs99and04]

Seems like there's no middle ground on here regarding Ollie. It's either he's a complete victim of circumstance or we're screwed with him long-term. I happen to think it's neither - this is not a well-coached team, and I find that to be apparent on a level beyond this simply being a limited group of players. The first half on Saturday was a good example of the template that has gotten us here. Cincinnati was lethargic, they were missing shots, and they were mostly playing poorly...yet we did so much screwing around on offense that we found ourselves in a big hole at halftime. He also decided to take Jalen Adams out of the game when he picked up two fouls, and I cannot emphasize enough, despite the fact it worked with Shabazz a couple years ago against Villanova: optimizing minutes based on fouls is stupid, especially when it involves a guard who happens to be your most important player. If you can't trust your point guard not to foul out when you have six players, that's a problem.

That said, there was nothing he could do about the second half. Cincinnati caught fire and we had no answers for Clark and Washington. Brimah is what he is, and you can't play him against those type of players. Obviously, we had no choice.

Things point upward with Ollie, holistically. He's a hell of basketball mind and a proven molder of perimeter talent. He has some weaknesses, one of which might be that his temperament mirrors that of an NBA coach - he's not a scathing d*** like Pitino or Cal or K...those guys operate their programs like oppressive dictators and my suspicion is that Ollie is more new-age. In and of itself that isn't a bad thing, but these guys on the court don't exactly remind you of the marines with their execution and I think it's more than just a player thing at this point.

 

[huskymagic]

i can recognize everything pal, you obviously can't separate your impatience with what is an inadequate group of Huskies vs what we are used to. I can recognize poor play by "good" players your problem is you have in clue what a "good" player is. I'm thinking you think Brimah is a "good" player and if you think so you're not very smart. Can you decipher a knowledgable player from a guy who will never get it? I think not but do continue to enlighten me with your wealth of knowledge - LOL

Who are the good players and who are the bad players on this team specifically? Does the same apply to the coaching staff? Why is one of the "bad" players considered an NBA prospect? What do you think the problem with Ollie coached and recruited teams of the past 3 years have been? What are the expectations for next year's team? Do you think UCONN is still an elite program and if so do you think we need to hold the program to those standards? I think we'd all like to know the answer to these questions.

 

[7774]

Who are the good players and who are the bad players on this team specifically? Does the same apply to the coaching staff? Why is one of the "bad" players considered an NBA prospect? What do you think the problem with Ollie coached and recruited teams of the past 3 years have been? What are the expectations for next year's team? Do you think UCONN is still an elite program and if so do you think we need to hold the program to those standards? I think we'd all like to know the answer to these questions.

Just out of curiosity, what exactly is the behavior of a person who "holds the program to elite standards", and what impact do those people have on the program?

Is it just crying on the internet like a little girl with a skinned knee, or is there something beyond that?

 

[mauconnfan]

Who are the good players and who are the bad players on this team specifically? Does the same apply to the coaching staff? Why is one of the "bad" players considered an NBA prospect? What do you think the problem with Ollie coached and recruited teams of the past 3 years have been? What are the expectations for next year's team? Do you think UCONN is still an elite program and if so do you think we need to hold the program to those standards? I think we'd all like to know the answer to these questions.

Give me 20 I'll be right back to you magic