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[Shaffer0011]

From the NCAA Transfer Guideline. These dates will change fir 2022.

Planning to transfer to a Division I school?
In order to meet the criteria of the Division I one-time transfer exception to seek immediate eligibility, the student-athlete must:
• • •
•
Transfer from a four-year collegiate institution to an NCAA Division I school;
Leave their current four-year school academically eligible;
Have not transferred previously from another four-year institution (unless in the previous four-year transfer, the student-athlete received either a nonsponsored or discontinued sport transfer exception), and
Certify in writing to their new school, along with their new head coach, they did not have direct or indirect communication with the new school’s athletics staff prior to entering the NCAA Transfer Portal.
Additionally, a student-athlete must provide their current school with a written request to enter the NCAA Transfer Portal by July 1, 2021 (all sports) to use the one-time exception.

 

[Boreifs]

From the NCAA Transfer Guideline. These dates will change fir 2022.

Planning to transfer to a Division I school?
In order to meet the criteria of the Division I one-time transfer exception to seek immediate eligibility, the student-athlete must:
• • •
•
Transfer from a four-year collegiate institution to an NCAA Division I school;
Leave their current four-year school academically eligible;
Have not transferred previously from another four-year institution (unless in the previous four-year transfer, the student-athlete received either a nonsponsored or discontinued sport transfer exception), and
Certify in writing to their new school, along with their new head coach, they did not have direct or indirect communication with the new school’s athletics staff prior to entering the NCAA Transfer Portal.
Additionally, a student-athlete must provide their current school with a written request to enter the NCAA Transfer Portal by July 1, 2021 (all sports) to use the one-time exception.

Clarity. Thank you for posting.

 

[baggerbob]

From the NCAA Transfer Guideline. These dates will change fir 2022.

Planning to transfer to a Division I school?
In order to meet the criteria of the Division I one-time transfer exception to seek immediate eligibility, the student-athlete must:
• • •
•
Transfer from a four-year collegiate institution to an NCAA Division I school;
Leave their current four-year school academically eligible;
Have not transferred previously from another four-year institution (unless in the previous four-year transfer, the student-athlete received either a nonsponsored or discontinued sport transfer exception), and
Certify in writing to their new school, along with their new head coach, they did not have direct or indirect communication with the new school’s athletics staff prior to entering the NCAA Transfer Portal.
Additionally, a student-athlete must provide their current school with a written request to enter the NCAA Transfer Portal by July 1, 2021 (all sports) to use the one-time exception.

Just for your information, she was 1 of 3 SU women's basketball players named to the ACC all academic list on 3/3/2021.

 

[Drew8]

Late last night after reading these posts about Kamilla Cardoso entering the portal and has thoughts of transferring to UCONN or Auburn, I had a mental "light go on" I'd like to present it to the BY hounds barking at the door how this isn't fair to the present roster, etc.
If my information is correct Kamilla's last 2 colleges on her list to attend were UCONN & Syracuse!
She choose Syracuse!
But let's say that last year she choose UCONN instead. What is the difference to UCONN's present roster of players if she choose UCONN 1 year ago or this year?
The players, especially the BIGS, would have had to deal with her to earn playing time then or now!
The decision is just one year later! And Kamilla would still have her 4 years of eligibility!
So in reality these players now on the UCONN's roster are in the same boat they might have been in a year ago!
NO GRIPES! Some of the players may not think of this and are upset but they really have no gripe!
The program should greet her with open arms, as Kamilla can only help UCONN toward it's goal of multiple National Championships!
I'd love to hear from the NAY SAYERS on my theory!

Both of our transfers seem to fit in the UCONN mold.

 

[Go/huskies]

Late last night after reading these posts about Kamilla Cardoso entering the portal and has thoughts of transferring to UCONN or Auburn, I had a mental "light go on" I'd like to present it to the BY hounds barking at the door how this isn't fair to the present roster, etc.
If my information is correct Kamilla's last 2 colleges on her list to attend were UCONN & Syracuse!
She choose Syracuse!
But let's say that last year she choose UCONN instead. What is the difference to UCONN's present roster of players if she choose UCONN 1 year ago or this year?
The players, especially the BIGS, would have had to deal with her to earn playing time then or now!
The decision is just one year later! And Kamilla would still have her 4 years of eligibility!
So in reality these players now on the UCONN's roster are in the same boat they might have been in a year ago!
NO GRIPES! Some of the players may not think of this and are upset but they really have no gripe!
The program should greet her with open arms, as Kamilla can only help UCONN toward it's goal of multiple National Championships!
I'd love to hear from the NAY SAYERS on my theory!

Cardoso committed to Syracuse November 7th 2019 DeBerry committed to UConn November 8th 2019. Not sure it means anything, but I don’t think DeBerry was expecting to play with Cardoso at UConn.

 

[CocoHusky]

Only if there is a coaching change or a player loses their scholarship.

That's not correct. NCAA players for all sports have until 1 July 2021 to make a decision to transfer. Coaching changes or loss of scholarship have nothing to do with it. If you are transferring for the first time you will be immediately eligible to play at the new school. If you are transferring for a second time and have completed your degree you are immediately eligible under the graduate transfer provision. The rules are unclear if a player is transferring for the second time and have not completed a degree, but mostly like a transfer waiver request will need to be submitted.

 

[huskeynut]

Assuming it happens and she transfers to UCONN....here are some thoughts.
As a former NBA scout , the first time I saw her play in early December I was impressed....she runs the floor so well for a player of her size....she has Brittney Griner potential...she can score and could be a force defensively.she has great hands and does not bring the ball down. I checked with one of my sources in the basketball Federation in Brasil and they are encouraging her to come to UCONN , the upside to Brasil women’s basketball would be immense for she would get the best coaching to reach her enormous potential.
As far as her personality unlike the NBA where we get to interview players and try to assess her personality I cannot tell how she would adjust at UCONN but I am sure Geno has already done that assuming she will choose UCONN.
One last factor to get the most out of this type of talent you need good players that are able to feed her at the right moment and can score from the outside to alleviate double teams. That spells UCONN.

This information is appreciated. From a developmental standpoint, UConn is the team to transfer to. From a playing standpoint, UConn's guards can definitely deliver the pass on time and were it needs to be.

 

[Boreifs]

That's not correct. NCAA players for all sports have until 1 July 2021 to make a decision to transfer. Coaching changes or loss of scholarship have nothing to do with it. If you are transferring for the first time you will be immediately eligible to play at the new school. If you are transferring for a second time and have completed your degree you are immediately eligible under the graduate transfer provision. The rules are unclear if a player is transferring for the second time and have not completed your degree, but mostly like a transfer waiver request will need to be submitted.

Yes, that has been made clear since I made that post. I was using the info that starts in the 2022 season; if anyone is owed an apology for my misinformation, they have it.

 

[Twolf]

Yes, that has been made clear since I made that post. I was using the info that starts in the 2022 season; if anyone is owed an apology for my misinformation, they have it.

That’s no problem because I know of several coaches who are in a spin over these rules, and then you add in NIL coming down the pike.

 

[jazz]

Pretty sure she could have 4 years at UConn. She just finished her freshman season.

I thought the same but not sure if she would stay 4 years.

She will dominate in short order as in next year. Natural player, things come easy for her, great hands, mov't skills and is just a natural player. Has an instinct to score. Doesn't need to be taught everything like body position, feeling the lean of players on her, holding the ball high, etc. Feels it naturally.

 

[jazz]

Cardoso committed to Syracuse November 7th 2019 DeBerry committed to UConn November 8th 2019. Not sure it means anything, but I don’t think DeBerry was expecting to play with Cardoso at UConn.

Maybe you are right but from what I have seen, which isn't a lot, Deberry cant bang down low. Cardosa will allow her to not do this and make her even better. It is a potential ridiculous abundance of talent on the inside to go with an ridiculous amount of talent at guard and wing. If we get her, Mickey Mouse could coach us to the finals for the next 3-4 years.

 

[Geesworld]

Women's College Hoops is starting to look like the NBA teams. All the good players on a handful of teams.

Wouldn't surprise me if Cardosa stays in the ACC.. Either Louisville or Duke.

 

[Mdoggie]

Hopefully she will be following the Pied Piper of Storrs, Paige, soon !

What makes Paige the Pied Piper?

 

[Go/huskies]

Maybe you are right but from what I have seen, which isn't a lot, Deberry cant bang down low. Cardosa will allow her to not do this and make her even better. It is a potential ridiculous abundance of talent on the inside to go with an ridiculous amount of talent at guard and wing. If we get her, Mickey Mouse could coach us to the finals for the next 3-4 years.

I agree I’ve always thought Liv 2.0 when watching DeBerry highlights, another 6’5 jump shooter, she also looks up to Stewie if I’m not mistaken.

 

[jazz]

Late last night after reading these posts about Kamilla Cardoso entering the portal and has thoughts of transferring to UCONN or Auburn, I had a mental "light go on" I'd like to present it to the BY hounds barking at the door how this isn't fair to the present roster, etc.
If my information is correct Kamilla's last 2 colleges on her list to attend were UCONN & Syracuse!
She choose Syracuse!
But let's say that last year she choose UCONN instead. What is the difference to UCONN's present roster of players if she choose UCONN 1 year ago or this year?
The players, especially the BIGS, would have had to deal with her to earn playing time then or now!
The decision is just one year later! And Kamilla would still have her 4 years of eligibility!
So in reality these players now on the UCONN's roster are in the same boat they might have been in a year ago!
NO GRIPES! Some of the players may not think of this and are upset but they really have no gripe!
The program should greet her with open arms, as Kamilla can only help UCONN toward it's goal of multiple National Championships!
I'd love to hear from the NAY SAYERS on my theory!

I vaguely remember that GA gave up on her due to some academic issues. can somebody remind me?

 

[Go/huskies]

Women's College Hoops is starting to look like the NBA teams. All the good players on a handful of teams.

Wouldn't surprise me if Cardosa stays in the ACC.. Either Louisville or Duke.

Duke is loading up, I think the Jackson kid from USC might be headed to Durham.

 

[Geew1992]

I vaguely remember that GA gave up on her due to some academic issues. can somebody remind me?

I think this was an assumption.

 

[Crossover]

Then let's stop pretending these are students. They are simply semi-pro athletes looking for the best deal at any given moment.

It doesn't have to be either/or. A person can be both a serious student and an athlete who seeks to optimize her chances of going pro.

 

[Fairfield Fan]

Then let's stop pretending these are students. They are simply semi-pro athletes looking for the best deal at any given moment.

Perhaps. But if we consider them students, shouldn't they enjoy the same rights of their fellow students? And that would include the right to change schools without being penalized for doing so.

 

[Drew8]

I think the trickle down effects of all these transfers matters. Things like commitment, security, development, team culture, coach player rteam chemistry, academics, life etc.

 

[jazz]

I agree I’ve always thought Liv 2.0 when watching DeBerry highlights, another 6’5 jump shooter, she also looks up to Stewie if I’m not mistaken.

yes i agree in my limited view of DeBerry but hopefully she can be more consistent overall than Liv.

 

[EricSD]

The ONLY concern I have is about chemistry. It was reported that when Juhasz chose UCONN, only 2 players congratulated and welcomed her in IG - Anna and Nika. I think Saylor did shortly thereafter. I have no idea why the other players were less than enthusiastic (as it appeared - I'm not speaking factually as I have no inside knowledge) - there are numerous possible reasons - they were surprised it happened so fast, maybe some post players saw it as not necessary (in their eyes), etc.

But it was odd that on a team that is so "social-media" focused, no one besides our 2 foreign players welcomed her. I'm encouraged to see more players following Cardoso and vice versa.

Having said that about the chemistry, I am, and have always been, of the opinion that more is better. More talent, more size, more skill, more options. If she comes, it will be a HUGE roster filled with talented players. The best players who practice hard and perform the best in games will get the most PT, especially in big games. If anyone can't "get over the hump" to earn the PT they want or think they deserve, then they will have options.

I'm not advocating that anyone will, or should, leave. However, on a team with so much talent at so many positions, it's a reality. I hope everyone has, and continues, to buy in to the "team first" concept. It's all about winning NC's at UCONN (as well as developing student-athletes in to great people and great players), so anything that Geno can do to make that more likely, I'm 100% behind.

My last thought - UCONN does not "need" Cardoso to offset Betts. We have 6'5" Deberry. Brady is 6'3"-6'4", and much stronger. 2" on Deberry is not a game changer. Obviously it will depend how they develop. But I somehow get the impression that some feel Stanford will be unbeatable with Betts. How did that work out for Baylor and Griner?

Having said that, 6'7" does not grow on trees. It's very uncommon, especially for that 6'7" player to be mobile, relatively athletic, have good hands, and already have good shot blocking instincts (not the tomahawk chop), as well as the ability to keep the ball high when receiving it and not bringing it down so it can be stripped. I would be over the moon if we land her.

 

[jaundicedeye]

And it can’t be denied that Liv blocks shots and runs the court really well so she’s more than capable of that exact play and she have made that already.

Thank you for your post. I strongly agree. I was just too lazy to respond to the original poster who had apparently overlooked Liv's significant athleticism for a big.

 

[Crossover]

Maybe you are right but from what I have seen, which isn't a lot, Deberry cant bang down low. Cardosa will allow her to not do this and make her even better. It is a potential ridiculous abundance of talent on the inside to go with an ridiculous amount of talent at guard and wing. If we get her, Mickey Mouse could coach us to the finals for the next 3-4 years.

Whether Deberry can/will bang down low remains an unknown. She has a wider frame than Liv, and is still filling out. Not mention she hasn't yet had the benefit of college strength and conditioning work.

 

[pvdoggy]

I think this was an assumption.

Since she was named to the ACC All-Academic team in her freshman season, it is safe to say that assumption was wrong.

 

[stamfordhusky]

That's not correct. NCAA players for all sports have until 1 July 2021 to make a decision to transfer. Coaching changes or loss of scholarship have nothing to do with it. If you are transferring for the first time you will be immediately eligible to play at the new school. If you are transferring for a second time and have completed your degree you are immediately eligible under the graduate transfer provision. The rules are unclear if a player is transferring for the second time and have not completed a degree, but mostly like a transfer waiver request will need to be submitted.

I think you know this, but it might not be clear to others. Players have until July 1st to notify their school they plan to transfer. However they do not have to choose their new school by this date.

 

[CocoHusky]

Late last night after reading these posts about Kamilla Cardoso entering the portal and has thoughts of transferring to UCONN or Auburn, I had a mental "light go on" I'd like to present it to the BY hounds barking at the door how this isn't fair to the present roster, etc.
If my information is correct Kamilla's last 2 colleges on her list to attend were UCONN & Syracuse!
She choose Syracuse!
But let's say that last year she choose UCONN instead. What is the difference to UCONN's present roster of players if she choose UCONN 1 year ago or this year?
The players, especially the BIGS, would have had to deal with her to earn playing time then or now!
The decision is just one year later! And Kamilla would still have her 4 years of eligibility!
So in reality these players now on the UCONN's roster are in the same boat they might have been in a year ago!
NO GRIPES! Some of the players may not think of this and are upset but they really have no gripe!
The program should greet her with open arms, as Kamilla can only help UCONN toward it's goal of multiple National Championships!
I'd love to hear from the NAY SAYERS on my theory!

Not a "naysayer" just some additional stipulations regarding Cardoso's recruitment & timeline of commitments which might have led to an entirely different UCONN roster.
UCONN Commitments:

Mir McLean, June 2019​

Isuneh Brady December 2019​

Piath Gabriel September 2019​

Aaliyah Edwards October 2019​

Amari DeBerry November 2019​

Cardoso commitment to Syracuse was November 2019.
UCONN was very much in on recruiting Cardoso, Geno went to see her play at her High school. In the fall of 2019 UCONN could not get a commitment from Cardoso to make an official visit to Storrs.
There was also an ESPN article indicating that Cardoso had not secure the SAT or ACT score require to be eligible as a freshman. Likely based on those two factors UCONN decided to move on from Cardoso and Piath Gabriel was the next post commitment for UCONN. The next few month would result in Aaliyah, Amari and Ice signing up. A Cardoso visit to UCONN and commitment in fall of 2019 might have changed the roster significantly.

 

[UConn79]

Eligible for WNBA draft year she turns 22. Born April 2001, so 2023.

 

[WFFL]

Eligible for WNBA draft year she turns 22. Born April 2001, so 2023.

So practically 2 years with her ? She does not fall under any other WNBA Eligibility rules being a foreigner right ?

 

[jazz]

The ONLY concern I have is about chemistry. It was reported that when Juhasz chose UCONN, only 2 players congratulated and welcomed her in IG - Anna and Nika. I think Saylor did shortly thereafter. I have no idea why the other players were less than enthusiastic (as it appeared - I'm not speaking factually as I have no inside knowledge) - there are numerous possible reasons - they were surprised it happened so fast, maybe some post players saw it as not necessary (in their eyes), etc.

But it was odd that on a team that is so "social-media" focused, no one besides our 2 foreign players welcomed her. I'm encouraged to see more players following Cardoso and vice versa.

Having said that about the chemistry, I am, and have always been, of the opinion that more is better. More talent, more size, more skill, more options. If she comes, it will be a HUGE roster filled with talented players. The best players who practice hard and perform the best in games will get the most PT, especially in big games. If anyone can't "get over the hump" to earn the PT they want or think they deserve, then they will have options.

I'm not advocating that anyone will, or should, leave. However, on a team with so much talent at so many positions, it's a reality. I hope everyone has, and continues, to buy in to the "team first" concept. It's all about winning NC's at UCONN (as well as developing student-athletes in to great people and great players), so anything that Geno can do to make that more likely, I'm 100% behind.

My last thought - UCONN does not "need" Cardoso to offset Betts. We have 6'5" Deberry. Brady is 6'3"-6'4", and much stronger. 2" on Deberry is not a game changer. Obviously it will depend how they develop. But I somehow get the impression that some feel Stanford will be unbeatable with Betts. How did that work out for Baylor and Griner?

Having said that, 6'7" does not grow on trees. It's very uncommon, especially for that 6'7" player to be mobile, relatively athletic, have good hands, and already have good shot blocking instincts (not the tomahawk chop), as well as the ability to keep the ball high when receiving it and not bringing it down so it can be stripped. I would be over the moon if we land her.

hmmm.... maybe there is something there with no other players welcoming her on social media, especially these days where they spend half the day on social media.