Can Paige carry this team....

[BobbyJ]

Agreed. It just amazes me that I'm one of the few that criticizes Liv's incredibly small shot variety. People today and yesterday on the BY criticized how flat her fadeaway was, her lack of strength on put backs, her 4 shot put back failure etc. Guys, she only has 3 shots: The fadeaway, right side layup, and put backs. When the better teams overplay her hard to her right that takes away the layup and makes her fadeaway really tough. What is she then left with? As a 5 you just cannot be effective if you never (never!) use a left leg drop step.

At 4:38 of the first quarter Liv dribbles entirely across the lane to her right to make a left handed layup. Yeah, it was a strong move, but she made her life so difficult because she didn't stop, shoulder fake continuing to her right, and put it in with her right hand over her left shoulder. Liv will never be a Shaq. Without more variety around the basket UConn is going to have a lot of ineffective post entries this season. There may come a time this season when both Liv and Aaliyah are on the court and Geno puts Liv at the high post just to get score from the post and take advantage of two of Liv's strengths, height and good passing.

CW's lack of consistent shooting is a puzzlement to me. She's better than that, and I just feel her 3pt averages will go up. They'll have to when teams start to pack the paint and force UConn to shoot from the perimeter.

I’ve commented before about ONO’s lack of post moves and shots. I still can’t understand how the coaching staff hasn’t been able to develop these basic skills. And I also don’t understand why ONO, with national team opportunity in front of her, hasn’t on her own sought out off season instruction to pick these up. Six weeks or so with a good post skills coach at 6-5 and she’d have to be doubled constantly inside. It’s up to her.

 

[msf22b]

Some points about yesterday and the topic at hand:

-At the post-game interview, Geno had very complementary things to say about Paige...he spoke about her numerous skills running across the entire range of the game. He did not say anything about her "carrying" the team because there is no need...there is a huge amount of youthful talent + "mom"on this team and he knows very well that his job is to hone this group; fit those pieces together...Is there anyone better at that?

-The upperclassman (sort of sad to say) reverted to form and had less than stellar games...In a funny sort of way...that doesn't trouble me much...(see above). This will be a season in which upperclassman loyalty
will take a back seat to on-court performance. No single individual's stats will be make or break...There are so many potentially good players. It's been a long, long time since that's been the case. So sit back and enjoy a master and crew develop outstanding talent.

- I have no idea why Aubrey was kept on the bench for so long...ask Geno- She seemed to perform her usual spark-plug duties on both ends of the court with aplomb, but I didn't notice any new wrinkles either...Another (semi)-upperclassman to watch...

I expect we'll have a better idea of the general appearance and rotations after the next week or so...

Be ready for some surprises.

 

[mbr33ct]

 

[Charliebball]

I watched Harris carry South Carolina last year. She was the glue that made them go and kept them together. I saw Diana carry UConn on her back to NC's. She was the glue that kept them together and made them go. Paige has the same qualities. In Tues and Thurs nights games we will get an idea of where we are and who can do what in much tuffer games against division opponets. We got off to a slow start this season as did many other teams however with the pandemic we started even later then many other teams. Now its time to catch up in a very short time. We have the players who can get the job done. They need to just get a few games under their belts. Yesterday we looked a little rusty as a team. Rust comes from not playing. Hey it was our first game with alot of underclassman

from my years of watching her in high school, summer league and international play it seems the better the competition the better PB plays............while she may have a few freshman hiccups, I expect her to shine brightly when the teams really needs her to perform......

 

[Majic Hands]

My idea of carrying a team may be different.

I've now watched Page play one game. Can I see her as the leader of the team? I think that has already happened.

Can she be the person the team resolves around? I think, yes. Can she be the glue? I think, yes.

I have been watching the past games against ranked teams the years they won the NC.

And what I've seen in these games is a leader, but they were never alone. Just like the Bulls, Celtics, & Laker teams I use to watch. A leader, with their main side kick, as well as someone cleaning up under the basket. And on the occasion where a team stopped them the 4th & 5th player would make the stop or knock down the shot.

I think it's very possible that this can happen with the group of kids at UConn this year. (I'll care about next year's class this summer.)

I now realize, I thought I was looking forward to seeing this year's team. Wow, I'm so looking forward to watching this team come together, grow into being very bad for women basketball!

 

[GRIFFBIFF20]

ABSOLUTELY NOT !! - The keys to this season, in possibly capturing a National Championship are (in no particular order):

- ONO must be DOMINANT, both offensively and defensively down low
- Paige must have an "All American Season"
- Anna MUST have a extremely high 3 Point Shots vs. Made percentage (within the top 3 in the country)
- Aubrey MUST win the 6th Man of the Year Award
- Majority of the Freshman don't play like your "Typical Freshman"

If all of this happens, then we will win a National Championship

 

[EricSD]

See that's where we disagree. I don't think Walker did the best she could. I think she is hugely talented but she never fully got into passing or one on one defense to be truly great.

Wow. Well unless you are psychic, or spoke directly with Megan, not sure how you could come to that conclusion. Being selected 1st team AA is quite an honor that many really good UCONN players never achieved. See, that's where we disagree.

 

[JordyG]

ABSOLUTELY NOT !! - The keys to this season, in possibly capturing a National Championship are (in no particular order):

- ONO must be DOMINANT, both offensively and defensively down low
- Paige must have an "All American Season"
- Anna MUST have a extremely high 3 Point Shots vs. Made percentage (within the top 3 in the country)
- Aubrey MUST win the 6th Man of the Year Award
- Majority of the Freshman don't play like your "Typical Freshman"

If all of this happens, then we will win a National Championship

Even if all of that happens there are a few other things that must occur.

1) Someone other than Anna needs to shoot a high percentage from the arc. Hopefully 2 others.

2) Someone other than Liv needs to be a force in the paint.

3) Their quarter court offense must be played with pace. It'll need to be precise and efficient.

4) CW must have a higher percentage of FG's made. Much like her freshman year.

5) Their defense in the quarter court and in transition will need to be aggressive, hard nosed and efficient.

Then UConn win a championship.

 

[willtalk]

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CW's lack of consistent shooting is a puzzlement to me. She's better than that, and I just feel her 3pt averages will go up. They'll have to when teams start to pack the paint and force UConn to shoot from the perimeter.

Is she really better than that, or are you confusing your perspective of her ceiling with her actual one? People, especially fans often do that. By every measure she appears to be a streak shooter. She has games where she shoots very well and then more often than not games where she doesn't. Her expectations are built on the games that she shot well. The McDonalds AA game and the ND game her first season. Streak shooters tend to be inconsistent.

I have always stated that a player is never as good as their best game nor as bad as their worst. Players are not machines where they can always give you a consistent effort every game. There will always be variences, especially in respect to shooting percentages. Every player can have an off game as well as games where they shoot better than their avarage would dictate. Some players seem to have a broader spectrum between their on and off games. Those would be called streak shooters.

 

[Tonyc]

This was a practice game to just get out and get the girls playing somebody. They accomplished that. This should help clear the jitters for the first conference game on Tuesday. Alot of disappointed posters and fans on this board and I can understand that. We need time playing together in games to change that. A lot of players in and out of the game. I expect Evina to start scoring more. I also expect, Anna and Olivia to score more. Dont be surprised to see CW come off the bench. She seems to be dwelling on not hitting her shots. Maybe if she comes off the bench that will change then put her back in the starting lineup. We need her.

Yeah we couldve run up the score and done somethings differently. I understand because we didnt some feel we regressed and thats fine. Our expectations were high and the team didnt satisfy some of our hopes. Still its only a practice game and Tuesday we will see where the improvement is as we will on Thurs and Saturday. Remember this we are starting 2 high school number 1's and one HS number 2. The pieces are there we need patience for it to come together..and it will.

 

[arch]

Maybe PB could carry a team but won’t need to carry this team. Real leader will be Evina.
Mir over Aubrey.

 

[DeeHusky]

Clark and Van Lith while great do not have the ability she has. It’s hard to explain it. It’s just so natural to her. God given ability. The passes, she’s knows what she’s gonna do before it happens, the steals in the passing lane, the pump fake to get the defender in the air into a free throw line jumper. Just super, super talented. She has the ability to score just like Van Lith and Clark but she has so more to her game. I don’t like comparing players to Dee, but my God, she looks just like her out there with the ability to make her teammates better.

In other words, Yes, she can lead this team. And I want to go out on a limb and say she will be an All-American this year.

 

[jsloanjr]

Paige has the best short range jumper on UCONN and can get that shot at time she wants........Her BB IQ is off the charts.....She makes the rest of te team much better Stay awake or you will get a BB off the side of your head or nose..

 

[Huskee11]

Love the enthusiasm for Evina, but I'm a bit mystified why so many seem to be taking pot shots at Megan, or at the least, downplaying her talent and skills. Are people still butt-hurt that she left for the WNBA early? I've also seen her called the "black hole on offense".

Megan improved every year. By the end of her junior year, she was a world class 3-point shooter and a 1st team AA. I have said numerous times that I felt she did not work well with Christyn on the floor together - they seemed to get in each others' way metaphorically speaking.

But let's be clear - Megan was a very talented player who did the very best she could while at UCONN, and has earned her place on the Huskies Wall of Honor. By all accounts, she is great friends with Evina and one of the big reasons Evina considered, and chose, UCONN.

EricLA, I think almost all of us recognize that Megan is a very talented player. I suspect that many of us are likely willing to let slide the notion, perhaps undeserved, that she was at best an average team leader.

Where it breaks down for me at least is the perception that she did not come up big enough when the lights were the brightest.

Although she had 473 field goals in her three year career, very few of those came in crunch time of big games. A fairly quick check of the play by play narratives for the fourth quarter of the key games over the last three seasons confirms this. To her credit, she did have two big hoops in the fourth quarter of the bitter Final Four loss to Notre Dame in Tampa in 2019. But unfortunately not much else.

 

[JonathanXIV]

Yes, she can carry this team. In the process, she may hit a few of them in the back of the head with a pass or two. But they will learn.
How right you are! I played with a kid nicknamed "Flash Cadillac." You better be looking for the pass with your hands up. More than one bloody nose happened before some learned.

"Flash Cadillac?" I'm assuming that you didn't play with Flash anytime in the past 40 years.

 

[SVCBeercats]

"Flash Cadillac?" I'm assuming that you didn't play with Flash anytime in the past 40 years.

Sure make fun of an old man. BTW Cris Collinsworth at Florida was nickname Cadillac because his catches were so long and comfortable. During your school years was your nickname Yugo?!

 

[msf22b]

EricLA, I think almost all of us recognize that Megan is a very talented player. I suspect that many of us are likely willing to let slide the notion, perhaps undeserved, that she was at best an average team leader.

Where it breaks down for me at least is the perception that she did not come up big enough when the lights were the brightest.

Although she had 473 field goals in her three year career, very few of those came in crunch time of big games. A fairly quick check of the play by play narratives for the fourth quarter of the key games over the last three seasons confirms this. To her credit, she did have two big hoops in the fourth quarter of the bitter Final Four loss to Notre Dame in Tampa in 2019. But unfortunately not much else.

Megan this, Megan that....Megan's gone
One of the many UConn players with a pretty distinguished career
that didn't quite knock our socks off, nor win championships
(no one does it by themselves).
But she did improve quite a bit every year.
Her first season in the W was not so distinguished but she's 22 for goodness sake and may wind up just fine...but I'm not fixated.

But this group that Geno has now...now that's worth out attention.

 

[Huskee11]

Hey now that`s quite a bit of attention you just gave to someone not worth our attention

 

[Alydar]

Caitlin Clark of Iowa and Hailey Van Lith of Louisville have garnered lots of oohs and aahs in their first 2 weeks of college play, and it's exceedingly rare to see freshmen, especially early in the season, as poised and star-ready as those two.

Just the other day I mused, "If Paige is in fact the top of that class, then we UConn fans are in for a major treat." It seems that we indeed are so privileged. This team is Paige's world and we're just living in it.

The success of this team, in my eyes, isn't really about what Paige can do. It's plainly obvious she has greatness all about her. It's gonna hinge on how well her teammates step up alongside her.

Bueckers reminds me of Magic, a tall guard who rarely led the Lakers in scoring, who could get 30 any game he wanted but concentrated in making his team mates better.

 

[JonathanXIV]

Sure make fun of an old man. BTW Cris Collinsworth at Florida was nickname Cadillac because his catches were so long and comfortable. During your school years was your nickname Yugo?!

All in fun. And I’m older than you think. Maybe not “Flash Cadillac” old...

 

[jabstep]

"Flash Cadillac?" I'm assuming that you didn't play with Flash anytime in the past 40 years.

I played with Ernie Digregorio at St Thomas Moore Prep and he hit me in the face with a behind the back pass from the foul line while I was at the other foul line heading toward the basket. Baaaam what a stinger right in the face and I always had my hand ready after that. Paige reminds me of Ernie quite a bit.

 

[Bama fan]

Yes, she can carry this team. In the process, she may hit a few of them in the back of the head with a pass or two. But they will learn.

Paige lived up to expectations and then some. Lithe is a word I would use to describe her out there. Fluid like Stewie even though their games are much different. Maya was athletic but in a more muscular, powerful sense. Those three just look different out there. And by different, I mean better.

Interesting that Williams (38), Bueckers (36), and Makurat (32) logged huge minutes in a blowout game. No one else over 21.

ONO only played 19 minutes. Geno downplayed her lack of playing time in the second half but I am guessing he was frustrated by her inability to finish at point blank range. 5 for 14, 2 for 6 from the line. That needs to improve.

We need CW to hit the open three pointer. With Paige at the point, she will have many chances. She seems to be long with her shots for the most part and perhaps a bit flat. I don`t expect her to shoot a super high percentage from out there, would settle for 38-40%.

The Freshman as a whole were great especially for their first time out. Lots to be excited about. Aubrey as well.

Aside from being rusty, they appear to be a bit too pass happy. The black hole that was Megan Walker is not there to stop the music. But if that is the biggest problem, we will be all right.

The Seton Hall game on the road will be a more meaningful test. They have won big twice already but who knows about the level of competition they have faced. First league game, on the road, hope that Paige gets them rolling early.

Like almost all UConn teams, this is a very easy team to root for. Love their enthusiasm. It all starts with Paige.

"Lithe" is an excellent word and an apt descriptor for Ms Bueckers. Fine work there @ Huskee11

 

[meyers7]

Don't know if this team is gonna need to be "carried". I think they have plenty of talent. Maybe not a Ferrari, but possibly a Lexus that Bueckers can drive (but no need to carry).

 

[eebmg]

"Lithe" is an excellent word and an apt descriptor for Ms Bueckers. Fine work there @ Huskee11

too close to Lith.

 

[eebmg]

It begins

Bueckers Named BIG EAST Freshman of the Week - University of Connecticut Athletics

UConn women's basketball guard Paige Bueckers was tabbed the BIG EAST Freshman of the Week Monday.

uconnhuskies.com

 

[CL82]

Do you think she knows she is the only option at center? Without competition she won't push herself to be the best. Or has she hit her ceiling? For an easy game I'd start Aaliyah over Liv. I'd sub her in at center in appropriate situations. Let's see how both react. At some point a reasonably productive center will be needed. Liv will get into foul trouble.

The only thing Liv needs is confidence. She doesn't realize how talented she actually is.

 

[MSGRET]

Don't know if this team is gonna need to be "carried". I think they have plenty of talent. Maybe not a Ferrari, but possibly a Lexus that Bueckers can drive (but no need to carry).

I'm thinking a stretch Mercedes is more in line for this team. It could carry the whole team with her driving, just like she seems to be doing on the court.

 

[hoophuskee]

Is she really better than that, or are you confusing your perspective of her ceiling with her actual one? People, especially fans often do that. By every measure she appears to be a streak shooter. She has games where she shoots very well and then more often than not games where she doesn't. Her expectations are built on the games that she shot well. The McDonalds AA game and the ND game her first season. Streak shooters tend to be inconsistent.

I have always stated that a player is never as good as their best game nor as bad as their worst. Players are not machines where they can always give you a consistent effort every game. There will always be variences, especially in respect to shooting percentages. Every player can have an off game as well as games where they shoot better than their avarage would dictate. Some players seem to have a broader spectrum between their on and off games. Those would be called streak shooters.

But she shot pretty well her frosh year from 3. So don't most players improve during time? SO why wouldn't the expectation be "she still is a good shooter" if for a full year she shot well- more than just the ND game?

 

[Fairfield Fan]

Nope, she can't "carry this team." Not to a NC. The only player I've ever seen put an entire team on her shoulders and carry them to a NC was Diana Taurasi. Her senior year, Diana took a group of decent/good players to a NC. But no one else could do that. Breanna Stewart was the superstar who made the difference for UConn four times in a row. But she had a lot of help. Her supporting class was full of professionals. Maya had Tina, but she only won the NC twice.

Sabrina Ionescu, a Paige look-alike, or "play-alike", also had a very strong supporting cast. I think Paige could lead us to a NC. But to get there, even to get to the FF, will require a total team effort.

Edwards will need to play the bulk of minutes at PF/post, because she has the talent to be an AA- this year. A combination of the wonderfully gifted and supremely aggressive Mir McLean and Aubrey Griffin will need to excel the rest of the way.

And somehow, Evina and Anna will need to combine with Paige to rain threes on the opposition consistently. If we're relying on ONO, the other teams will collapse back in the paint, and we'll be thwarted. We need to develop into a classic Coach Geno team that is capable of taking a third of its shots from outside the arc- and make them consistently. That capability was disturbingly absent in the first game.

All of that will have to come together. We can't expect Paige to be Diana. In her freshman year, Diana played her worst game of her career in the semifinal game against Notre Dame- shooting 1 for 15. But we can hope that Paige combines with Aaliya, Mir, Aubrey, Anna and ONO to create The Team that will get us there.

 

[DEpup]

EricLA, I think almost all of us recognize that Megan is a very talented player. I suspect that many of us are likely willing to let slide the notion, perhaps undeserved, that she was at best an average team leader.

Where it breaks down for me at least is the perception that she did not come up big enough when the lights were the brightest.

Although she had 473 field goals in her three year career, very few of those came in crunch time of big games. A fairly quick check of the play by play narratives for the fourth quarter of the key games over the last three seasons confirms this. To her credit, she did have two big hoops in the fourth quarter of the bitter Final Four loss to Notre Dame in Tampa in 2019. But unfortunately not much else.

As a contrast, Paige hit a quarter buzzer shot in her first game...