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C Edsall’s Contract (...and Dad’s too) Updated Monday Afternoon

Jimmy Serrano said:
It would be nice if you made a fool of yourself somewhere other than the Boneyard for a change.
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Good comeback Potsie. Now go back to your silent mode like you promised us.

You're not half as insightful as you think you are.
 
I think the whole thing could be solved if the State simply outsourced the entire coaching function to Edsall Coaching, LLC. The latter entity can hire whomever they want.
 
RSTuthill said:
I think the whole thing could be solved if the State simply outsourced the entire coaching function to Edsall Coaching, LLC. The latter entity can hire whomever they want.
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Do you think that’s why Rhett came to Connecticut. He knew this was going to happen. If nothing gets resolved he might be HC. I’m hoping Corey can come back.
 
Poster child for Connecticut's over regulation and sprawling do nothing bureaucracy. How many times do we see agencies over reaching with hubris. Moreover, the legislature could have fixed this with a special act, but were too busy fighting over the budget. They worry about special interests and corruption, but are owned by state employee and teacher unions. Just pathetic.
 
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The state law is a necessary one. One doesn't get to ignore it just because the state FB coach wants to give his son a six figure payday to tweet. It seems to me that everyone is looking to find a way to resolve this. One thing for sure, this is issue is not small time. Connecticut is not Alabama and that's a good thing.
 
DAC17 said:
UConn is skating on some pretty thin ice here; they can't afford another major misstep. Not much is going right for men's major sports these days.
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Agree with what you say here, and add that the timing of this mornings Hartford Courant headline is as bad or worse than Bob Diaco's clock management. With all the coaches visiting recruits this week they are going to have their hands full when a parent or player asks if Randy will be here much longer.

BlueDogs said:
Poster child for Connecticut's over regulation and sprawling do nothing bureaucracy. How many times do we see agencies over reaching with hubris. Moreover, the legislature could have fixed this with a special act, but were too busy fighting over the budget. They worry about special interests and corruption, but are owned by state employee and teacher unions. Just pathetic.
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You bring up the legislature, here is some info on what they are allowed as elected officials.
http://www.ncsl.org/research/ethics/50-state-table-nepotism-restrictions.aspx Interesting
Also it was in the recent past that a couple folks in the state Dept of Education were fined / suspended for helping their kids get state jobs.
State Manager Whose Son Got Job Suspended For 60 Days
A lot of sticky wickets in this one sad to say. :( :confused:
Not putting all this on AD David Benedict but Randy's request of hiring Cory should have been vetted by UConn legal before anyone signed anything.
 
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Waquoit said:
The state law is a necessary one. One doesn't get to ignore it just because the state FB coach wants to give his son a six figure payday to tweet. It seems to me that everyone is looking to find a way to resolve this. One thing for sure, this is issue is not small time. Connecticut is not Alabama and that's a good thing.
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No, but this makes the state look poorly around the country. We should have a level playing field but my guess is you're okay with being treated differently.
 
Waquoit said:
The state law is a necessary one. One doesn't get to ignore it just because the state FB coach wants to give his son a six figure payday to tweet. It seems to me that everyone is looking to find a way to resolve this. One thing for sure, this is issue is not small time. Connecticut is not Alabama and that's a good thing.
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Not even close to what happened. The coach bargained for it before he was an employee of the state. The university agreed and structured to comply once hired and a bunch of good /for-nothing bureaucrats were offended because somebody didn't kiss their in advance to their satisfaction. The office issued an opinion beforehand and they refused to homor their own opinion as non-binding like bureaucrats do. Finally, Connecticut is pathetically corrupt in ways the have killed this state. don't kid yourself.
 
huskyrob1 said:
I made a valid and fair point and got pounced on, you can go screw each other, and it was in the form of a question, but still got attacked.
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And I for one am shocked, absolutely shocked that that would happen on the BY.
 
Waquoit said:
The state law is a necessary one. One doesn't get to ignore it just because the state FB coach wants to give his son a six figure payday to tweet. It seems to me that everyone is looking to find a way to resolve this. One thing for sure, this is issue is not small time. Connecticut is not Alabama and that's a good thing.
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Yeah I'm calling BS on that. The arrangement meets state guidelines unless you create two fictions 1)changing the starting date and 2)changing who manages him . That's what the committee did.
 
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BlueDogs said:
Not even close to what happened. The coach bargained for it before he was an employee of the state. The university agreed and structured to comply once hired and a bunch of good /for-nothing bureaucrats were offended because somebody didn't kiss their in advance to their satisfaction. The office issued an opinion beforehand and they refused to homor their own opinion as non-binding like bureaucrats do.
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When an ethics board's preliminary opinion on a hypothetical scenario is relied on to hire a hypothetical state employee, then the board realizes state citizens might realize we screwed up and issues a contradictory formal opinion. Ethics board CYA ... :rolleyes:

March Courant article: http://www.courant.com/sports/uconn-football/hc-uconn-football-corey-edsall-contract-0325-20170324-story.html

"On Dec. 22, four days before previous coach Bob Diaco was notified he would be fired, Kimberly Fearney, UConn's director of compliance and ethics liaison, sent an email to Brian O'Dowd, the OSE's deputy general counsel, stating that UConn was recruiting a candidate for a position. Fearney also stated that one of the conditions sought by the candidate was employment for a family member.

The state statutes known as the Code of Ethics bans state employees from using their positions to benefit family members. But in this case, no formal employment agreement had yet been signed between Edsall and UConn.

Fearney wrote, "This would be part of the contract agreed to by the candidate and the University and signed before they begin employment. Can you confirm for me that this is permissible? … In addition, I know from prior guidance that it would be permissible for the family member to work within the same department, if they are not reporting, either directly or indirectly, to their family member."

O'Dowd, Deputy General Counsel of the Office of State Ethics responded, "Because the candidate is not yet a 'public official' or 'state employee,' the Code of Ethics for Public Officials … does not apply to him or her, meaning that what would be otherwise a clear use-of-office violation … namely, using one's state position to help one's spouse obtain a state job … is nonetheless technically permissible."

UConn took this as a go-ahead."
 
Randy wants his day in court and will have it. Question is what happens if the court upholds the decision. What then? That is likely and that scares me.
 
Alum86 said:
Randy wants his day in court and will have it. Question is what happens if the court upholds the decision. What then? That is likely and that scares me.
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There could be an "easy" fix here.

Randy never signed the contract. If Corey must go, Edsall decides to void the contract due to UConn's "violation" of their memo of understanding.

UConn hires Corey. THEN UConn hires Randy. Edsall wasn't employed, the contract was void as was the MOU, so he didn't use his position to get Corey the job. Keep in place the same system where Corey reports to the assistant AD, not Randy, while the legislature crafts some sort of work-around for UConn athletics to do what is relatively common for the field in which he works.

We watched a HC kill the program because he refused to part with his OC, who was not related. They both got fired. If Corey doesn't perform (the opposite appears true at this time) and Edsall won't fire him Beth Goetz can. Or AD Dave can fire them both and make Lashlee the HC.
 
Wing I like your thinking. I don't think that happens however. They favor in UConn's favor great. If not, I don't think they do your end around.
 
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Alum86 said:
Wing I like your thinking. I don't think that happens however. They favor in UConn's favor great. If not, I don't think they do your end around.
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Probably not, and I'm no lawyer, but it seems feasible (admittedly with lots of assumptions made in good faith).
 
WingU-Conn said:
There could be an "easy" fix here.

Randy never signed the contract. If Corey must go, Edsall decides to void the contract due to UConn's "violation" of their memo of understanding.

UConn hires Corey. THEN UConn hires Randy. Edsall wasn't employed, the contract was void as was the MOU, so he didn't use his position to get Corey the job.
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Creative thinking, but dinero direct deposited in RE's bank account may suggest an employment relationship exists. Inconvenient and all ...
 
Da_Aisijimo_Gou said:
Creative thinking, but dinero direct deposited in RE's bank account may suggest an employment relationship exists. Inconvenient and all ...
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I’m not being argumentative. But like i said, if he voids the MOU and never signs the contract, then I assume the checks would stop as he’d no longer be the head coach. The HC job would be open for the week or two it takes to iron out Corey’s contract. Then Randy signs his contract and the employment begins again. Unlikely, I know. But usually the simplest solution is the best, and all this time and money being spent litigating this seems like a waste of resources.
 
WingU-Conn said:
I’m not being argumentative.
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Nor I. As much as most UConn fans and we mutually hope for the best and no creative solutioning will be required, expectations for the latter workaround's success may be limited. Stranger things may have happened, yet betting the house, even whaler's, may be a reach.

Set aside receipt of compensation, most un-involved or sympathetic individuals (read: non-UConn fans) might question whether people typically volunteer 10-12 hours a day, allow or present themselves as the face of a company, athletic program, etc. without actually being the CEO, sales head, coach, grand poobah, etc. Best case, let's just hope the judge rules on RE's behalf.
 
Waquoit said:
Can't agree. Having the college FB team call the shots is how you get a Jerry Sandusky.
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Wow. That sounds real close to a "a rich man did something bad, so all rich men are bad" type comment. No thanks to that line of thinking.
 
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