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C. Collier De-commitment

it looks like she is already going to college at the University of Canberra.....she signed a one year deal to play with their club team while still being able to go to college...not sure where that leaves things......here's an earlier piece on her

I'm in the dark when it comes to Australian basketball leagues and colleges but what I'm reading is that she "signed" with the team for this year. Sounds like she can leave after the season?

UC Capitals Ezi decision for Magbegor
 
I'm in the dark when it comes to Australian basketball leagues and colleges but what I'm reading is that she "signed" with the team for this year. Sounds like she can leave after the season?

UC Capitals Ezi decision for Magbegor

I would think so but I have no idea how the NCAA views that............does she have to sit out for a year like a normal transfer or is it different because she's coming from another country?...........don't the European players play right away for USF? Just not sure if this is different as there is a college involved
 
Should also note that the Aussie press refers to Magbegor as in "year 12." Normally, the 12th year of school is high school senior level, at least in the US. Is it possible she's taking college courses early there? Maybe that's why she signed for a year. Anyone familiar with the Australian system?
 
Not too familiar, but she's taking grade 12 classes while playing as an amateur (without pay) on a pro team. Sounds contradictory, but it's normal there. I think the NCAA considers her college eligible, per my source. She could decide to stay down under, or she could be a HUGE recruiting coup. I have fingers and toes crossed.
 
I would think so but I have no idea how the NCAA views that..does she have to sit out for a year like a normal transfer or is it different because she's coming from another country?......don't the European players play right away for USF? Just not sure if this is different as there is a college involved
Yeah, Jose has gotten a lot of talent from outside the U.S. Watching international play, I see some real talent. The key is finding someone who wants an education and is willing to leave home. We are due for another Sveta!! How did she work out?? :)
 
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I would think so but I have no idea how the NCAA views that..does she have to sit out for a year like a normal transfer or is it different because she's coming from another country?......don't the European players play right away for USF? Just not sure if this is different as there is a college involved
Sitting out a year only applies for transfers between NCAA institutions.

International students have to go through the NCAA clearing house process that which determines eligibility. The general requirements (same for all students) "Amateurism" can be found here and includes things like you have never signed to play professionally.
Amateurism

Beyond the general requirements there are specific things that need to be provided to the clearing house based on country. The Australian specific things are here.
https://pub.s1.exacttarget.com/ithmsvqhyiv

If you meet all the requirements and provide all the required paper work then the clearing house makes you eligible and informs your school.

Just because you signed a professional contract does not automatically make you NCAA ineligible. The NCAA has a sliding scale that it applies to determine an acceptable level of compensation (not always money) and still retain amateur status. The NCAA ruled against Ernest Kantor who played professionally in Turkey was not eligible to play at Kentucky. I'm not sure of the specifics but I believe the NCAA ruled in favor of Angela Salvadores which made her eligible to play at Duke although she had play some what professionally in Europe-i think.
My guess is that if a college is pursuing Ezi at this point,an assessment of her chances of being declared eligibility, would have been one of the first points of discussion.
 
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This sucks, but I think that UCONN is going to have a monster recruiting class for 2019. Things happen for a reason.

.........................and Geno usually comes out smelling like a rose. ;)
 
This article goes into more depth about Collier's decision.note the end of the article about possible retribution for players that leave the UConn program and want to play on USA teams......today....really?

Collier Commits to Texas - Bluestar Media
Sorry, I call bulls--- on Flynn. There is no retribution. EDD made Team USA when healthy. Langhorne is a decent WNBA player with limitations. She's not Team USA caliber. The Parker situation was discussed at great length. She never decommitted from UConn, and she played in London in 2012.
 
This article goes into more depth about Collier's decision.note the end of the article about possible retribution for players that leave the UConn program and want to play on USA teams......today....really?

Collier Commits to Texas - Bluestar Media


Really bad look on Flynn to bring unsubstantiated stuff like that up in a column about Charli Collier. One of his examples is of course Candace Parker. But I'm pretty sure Parker played in the 2012 Olympics when Geno was coaching. I guess he hid his snubbed-UConn agenda for that one.
 
This article goes into more depth about Collier's decision.note the end of the article about possible retribution for players that leave the UConn program and want to play on USA teams......today....really?

Collier Commits to Texas - Bluestar Media

As was told to me long, long ago - consider the source.

If Collier wants to stay in Texas, that's fine. Disappointing but fine.

As to Aston, what is she going to do with all this talent? Recruiting is all well and good but not if you can't put it together and win the big prize. I see Texas becoming a Baylor type team - loads of talent, falling short in the tourney, transfers going to places for playing time.
 
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I'm sure she called Geno in person and explained her decision and thanked him for all his time and efforts.
Do you know that or are you just assuming?
 
What I am getting from Charli is that she has strong ties to her family and her friends, and the hurricane brought out some emotions to make her want to stay closer to home. All that is understandable. I like that she helped people affected by the hurricane and wish her the best in Austin.

I don't like that she de-committed twice and think she would have been developed more at UConn, but her priority is family. We've seen that before.
 
This article goes into more depth about Collier's decision.note the end of the article about possible retribution for players that leave the UConn program and want to play on USA teams......today....really?
Collier Commits to Texas - Bluestar Media
Leave it to Mike to dredge up the Crystal Langhorne USA basketball snub. I had actually forgotten about it. For those interested Crystal Langhorne & Laura Harper were both supposed to end up at UCONN but somehow ended up at Maryland instead though the influence of some AAU coaches and helicopter parents. Mechelle Voepel connects the dots in this article.

"Anybody who has paid attention to the WNBA this season likely had the same reaction that I did upon seeing this. Why on earth isn't Washington post player Crystal Langhorne in this pool?"

Voepel: Crystal Langhorne inexplicably left out of Team USA pool
 
Really bad look on Flynn to bring unsubstantiated stuff like that up in a column about Charli Collier. One of his examples is of course Candace Parker. But I'm pretty sure Parker played in the 2012 Olympics when Geno was coaching. I guess he hid his snubbed-UConn agenda for that one.
Slu unless USA basketball=Geno Mike has not connected the Langhorne or Parker exclusion from USA basketball teams to Geno in any way. That would be a very lazy (dead wrong) inference typical of the orange tin foil brigade. When Andre Drummond was left off the Olympic team I didn't hear anyone blaming Coach K.
 
It is better now than later.
I also have the feeling we will get CW. Hope I am right.
Hope so too, but I am disappointed as I saw Z as the bridge to Collier as we've had a dearth of bigs lately. I know the game is changing and having a big immobile center is a bit antiquated, but we still need some players that are 6-4, 6-5 that can bang down low and rebound.
 
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Difficult to candy-coat this one. It hurts to lose a 6'5" C/PF with range out to the arc. While Geno & his staff have done a wonderful job lining up talented g/w's, he has missed on 3 top Bigs in 4 yrs. (Wilson, Cox & Collier). Thank goodness for Z and Batouly.
 
What I am getting from Charli is that she has strong ties to her family and her friends, and the hurricane brought out some emotions to make her want to stay closer to home. All that is understandable. I like that she helped people affected by the hurricane and wish her the best in Austin.

I don't like that she de-committed twice and think she would have been developed more at UConn, but her priority is family. We've seen that before.

Why does this sort of stuff only ever hurt UConn and never help UConn?
 
Very disappointing. But, hey, this is a 17 year-old kid. They change their minds. At the end of the day, I think we all want this young lady to have a successful career and be happy. It's not as if a 31 year-old pro dissed us.

Good luck to her. Onwards and upwards!!
 
Why does this sort of stuff only ever hurt UConn and never help UConn?
Because the talent pools are in Texas, California, Georgia, and Florida. When the kids stay closer to home, that rules out Connecticut.
 
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Oh, crappy deim. Was not to be I guess. Better this than a mopper who goes how in December.
 
Sorry, I call bulls--- on Flynn. There is no retribution. EDD made Team USA when healthy. Langhorne is a decent WNBA player with limitations. She's not Team USA caliber. The Parker situation was discussed at great length. She never decommitted from UConn, and she played in London in 2012.
All correct.

Here's the very garbled Flynn statement raising the specter of USA basketball retribution for leaving UConn.

it’s well known the pressure to leave comes with the inference that any future with USA Basketball could be doubt as witnessed by long-time WNBA and Euro stars Candace Parker (Tennessee-LA Sparks) and Crystal Langhorne (Maryland-Seattle Storm) stories.
First of all, one assumes he means pressure not to leave comes with that inference, but he says the opposite. OK, a little sloppy.

But then, in addition to the poor example of EDD (as others have pointed out), he refers to Parker and Langhorne, neither of whom ever committed much less left.

UConn never even recruited Parker, because her father told Geno he'd be wasting his time. There are lots of outstanding players not recruited by the best programs because it's clear they're going elsewhere.

If Geno were inclined to strike back at everyone in this category, he's spend all of his time plotting and none of it winning championships. But the orange-tinted conspiracy theory lives on, it seems.

Why Flynn even brings up this sort of flailing at the air at this point is a mystery.

The more interesting story line here, to me at least, is how a program like UConn, that recruits nationally and little from its own state, is vulnerable to mind changes because of situations that make recruits want to stay closer to home.

A hurricane here; the death of an uncle there (second Samuelson sister); an air travel safety scare (9/11, Nikki Blue); family needs (EDD); even rumored romantic attachments (so as not to be gossipy, will leave the several examples that come to mind unspoken).

But great basketball does prevail plenty enough of the time to allow UConn to carry on and thrive with its general appeal, not so?
 
Been said before, and applies to all sports, but I HATE the concept of early "Commitments". They mean absolutely nothing - just fuels the many recruiting web-sites, polls, etc., etc. Nonsense. Until the kids sign on the dotted line, its just talk. Move the signing date up perhaps, but otherwise "commitments" are silly.
 
How many Centers do they need at Texas? Seems like they have a lot.

Agreed. That front court is getting very crowded.. Prince and Collier will join Joyner, Boothe and White. Uber talented though.. all top 10 players out of high school.

Long term though, I think Prince anchors the paint as a "stretch-5".. Joyner starts at 4.. then they'll rotate Collier and Boothe in as needed.
 
I don't have the energy tonight to scan the day's chat on this, but has anyone speculated about the influence of all the "news" about a potential 33 million budget cut vs Texas drowning in football bucks?
 
Player development hasn't been a strong point of Coach Aston to this point.

2012
Imani Stafford
2014
Ariel Atkins
Brooke McCarty
2015
Higgs and Hosey

Only McCarty have some what improved.

Did you see Imani play in her freshman or sophomore years?!
 
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