Butler Post Game Thread

[Scoe]

UConn football wasn’t even a D1 program when I started rooting for Michigan football. Please shut up man you sound stupid saying I’m a bandwagon fan because you don’t like my opinion on a team I rooted for all my life

So your a lifelong bandwagon fan, getting pretty defensive about Jim Harbaugh on a UConn board, while trashing Hurley. This isnt a Michigan board btw

 

[uconnfan68]

Hulu apparently decided the game ended with 57 seconds left in regulation, so that was great. At least we won so it was worth the search to finish the game

Did they go to Creighton v DePaul? Or something else? Just curious. Never heard of a streaming service doing that.

 

[HuskyWarrior611]

I’d say developing a portal guy out of East Carolina into a first team All American counts.

Hurley star pupil = All American and 59th pick in the NBA draft

This board and I have very different opinions of Tristan Newton but that’s okay. I’m hoping Hurley has better star pupils to show off his development with in the future.

This sophomore class is a great chance to do that because they’ll be here for more than 2 years. Develop these very talented young men that trusted in your coaching enough to come here. Please do not give up on them to grab a transfer guy someone else already coached up.

 

[TheShot1990]

Why don't I feel happy after this win?

Why do we have the exceptional ability to take mediocre side-shows on other teams and turn them into the hottest unconscious shooters in the league?

Why do we need to hear the word "Bizjack" over and over again while watching the game?

Why do I have to lookup how to spell Jahmyl after he scores a grillion points...the same way over and over again ( layups)? I don't want to know who he is...ever..

 

[RuffRuff]

But we've already seen that with McNeeley this team was firing on all cylinders and a very good team. So even if it's a lot to put on one guy, it's already been shown it's possible

Tis true - I’ll argue that some of those wins were over-valued, but the team generally looked much better. This is the one thing to hinge hopes on. Still massive flaws for one guy to remediate but who knows. Chemistry is a funny thing.

 

[HuskyWarrior611]

We kinda know Ross isn’t that. He’s erratic and not particularly strong. He has tools but seems to not have the focus.

I wouldn’t count Ross out after his first season of getting playing time.

Focus especially is just a confidence and experience thing.

 

[djct1999]

There was some good and a lot of bad. From the top down. Really disappointed in tonight’s efforts from guys I think really high of.

 

[jibsey]

The team is way better with McNeeley and can be competitive with most anyone but.,…..not 3 peat good. Everyone is starting to get that now. I appreciate what the team has given us all.

 

[Chin Diesel]

This team is like a marginally better '15/'16 team. Good amount of talent. Likeable players. And they shoot themselves in the foot all the time.

Sitting down to watch then play right now borderline feels like a choreographed not a diversion.

 

[JMick]

Hurley star pupil = All American and 59th pick in the NBA draft

This board and I have very different opinions of Tristan Newton but that’s okay. I’m hoping Hurley has better star pupils to show off his development with in the future.

This sophomore class is a great chance to do that because they’ll be here for more than 2 years. Develop these very talented young men that trusted in your coaching enough to come here. Please do not give up on them to grab a transfer guy someone else already coached up.

You act like he's the only player that got better under Hurley? Vital. Bouknight. Tyrese Martin. Sanogo. Hawkins. Clingan.

 

[ucp990411]

I mean I don’t actually think the defense was bad tonight. The 4+ minute offensive droughts were the issue. Giving up 76 on OT isn’t bad

To Butler?

 

[TheHorde]

Hurley star pupil = All American and 59th pick in the NBA draft

This board and I have very different opinions of Tristan Newton but that’s okay. I’m hoping Hurley has better star pupils to show off his development with in the future.

This sophomore class is a great chance to do that because they’ll be here for more than 2 years. Develop these very talented young men that trusted in your coaching enough to come here. Please do not give up on them to grab a transfer guy someone else already coached up.

He didn’t give up on them this year and I don’t see him doing that. But they have to earn minutes. It’s not like a guy like Ross for example has only been getting 5 minutes a game. He’s been getting chances to show growth. Do we think the staff isn’t coaching Samson not to commit silly fouls 30 feet from the basket? Of course not. You can lead a horse to water, but at some point the horse needs to drink.

 

[amishboy]

Hurley needs to live in the moment. Stop talking about going for three straight. Stop talking about being the best coach in the sport. Stop talking about the refs giving respect to the defending back-to-back champs. And stop talking about looking at your championship rings after losses. Focus on getting this very flawed team into the NCAA tournament and in a position where maybe they can make some noise.

This doesn't look like a team that is well coached right now. Do I think Danny is a great coach? Of course I do. But he's not showing it right now. He needs to focus on fixing this and forget about the past.

The national media and the rest of college basketball would love to bury us. They'll forget about our back-to-back championships in no time. Focus on the present.

You nailed it, but left out one thing:

WE need to live in the moment, and to stop talking about going for three straight!

Okay, AK is back, but Diarra, Ball, Johnson, and McNeeley are just nowhere near the equivalent of Newton, Castle, Spencer, and Clingan.

Diarra and Ball have reached their ceiling, and we can’t expect more of them. The transfers, Reed and Mahaney, have been, at best, inconsistent, and the other two sophs, Stewart and Ross, still aren’t ready for big roles.

So let’s just swallow our disappointment and appreciate whatever this year’s team manages to accomplish.

 

[RuffRuff]

Hurley star pupil = All American and 59th pick in the NBA draft

This board and I have very different opinions of Tristan Newton but that’s okay. I’m hoping Hurley has better star pupils to show off his development with in the future.

This sophomore class is a great chance to do that because they’ll be here for more than 2 years. Develop these very talented young men that trusted in your coaching enough to come here. Please do not give up on them to grab a transfer guy someone else already coached up.

Don’t think it’s as straight forward as just developing players into something special. The putty has to be there - right now it’s very questionable whether it is in a couple of guys as there are aspects to their game that look really off, and not coachable. Would be a tough call for Hurley.

 

[3rdbass]

Hurley star pupil = All American and 59th pick in the NBA draft

This board and I have very different opinions of Tristan Newton but that’s okay. I’m hoping Hurley has better star pupils to show off his development with in the future.

This sophomore class is a great chance to do that because they’ll be here for more than 2 years. Develop these very talented young men that trusted in your coaching enough to come here. Please do not give up on them to grab a transfer guy someone else already coached up.

You really are putting Tristen Newton down because he isn't an impactful NBA player? Ugh. I would love to have T-Newt on this team now. We would be a lot better team. He became a great College player.

 

[superjohn]

Not a lot of positive to take from this one other than the W in the book. And confirmation that Solo is one helluva a 3pt shooter.

What is perplexing is this: a team is supposed to look less clueless the further you go into a year, not more clueless. On a team and individual level. The Mahaneys, Reeds, Ross’, just about all the starters on defense, look as lost as ever. We have been waiting for these incremental glimpses, and they’re not happening. Not sure the development arc with many of these players is going to be overly dynamic this season, other than maybe McNeeley.

That presser felt defeated, and this result followed.

Bulletproof = amazing players.

Hopefully the light bulb goes off and chemistry harmonizes with McNeeley back, but boy it’s a lot to put on one guy.

Expectation reset, just have to enjoy the ride. Xavier here we come, gulp.

There won't be any more to put on Liam's shoulders than what he was giving us before the injury. He naturally gives us things on the court and with his personality that nobody else on this team gives us and everyone else can go back to their regular roles. Hass will still handle the ball a ton but Liam will help supplement that. AK will go back to being an awesome connector who gets a lot of open looks from three and cuts for layups. Solo will be hounded less than he's being hounded currently, Stewart will go back to his role off the bench but will hopefully be better equipped because of his time starting, and Ross will be playing less. The shooting, handling, driving Liam brings is all natural to him...he's a pro. The energy and passion he'll bring is also natural for him, he's our emotional leader already because that's how he's wired.

 

[JMick]

You really are putting Tristen Newton down because he isn't an impactful NBA player? Ugh.

He's just on one tonight. His posts make no sense.

 

[3rdbass]

He's just on one tonight. His posts make no sense.

Yeah calling Diarra a player we an trust at the end of the shot clock made no sense too. Diarra scares me every time the shot clock is winding down.

 

[HuskyWarrior611]

You really are putting Tristen Newton down because he isn't an impactful NBA player? Ugh. I would love to have T-Newt on this team now. We would be a lot better team. He became a great College player.

No that’s not the reason. But he was drafted there for a reason. I don’t care to have a Newton conversation because it’d sound harsh and the board wouldn’t be that receptive anyways.

 

[ucp990411]

Um, no he isn't. This team requires coaching. He has done an AWFUL job. Much easier to coach two teams that sent 7 guys to the pros. Let's see what he's made of now, because this team needs COACHING badly.

Do you think he may have had something to do with those 7 players becoming NBA players?

 

[HuskyWarrior611]

Yeah calling Diarra a player we an trust at the end of the shot clock made no sense too. Diarra scares me every time the shot clock is winding down.

I’m not saying Diarra is good at the end of the shot clock. But it’s obvious that’s what we trust him to do because he has the ball almost every single time it happens.

I don’t know why we don’t give Solo the ball more at the end of games

 

[amishboy]

Missing on Mahaney really killed this roster construction. It’s insane how we need 11 screens to create even a possibility of getting downhill.

Also the defense isn’t getting better, it’ll be marginally better with Liam, but he’s no Jackson Jr or Castle, the wings just give the least resistance I’ve ever seen on a Hurley coached team.

Yeah, there’s still time for Mahaney to salvage the season, but he’s made me appreciate guys like Spencer and Newton even more.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Butler has been losing close games all season. They are an older, skilled team that doesn't have the athleticism to win consistently at this level. They have some good non-conference wins. They don't suck. UConn is missing its best player, and is going to have to grind out some games while he is out. Most teams in college basketball would take a dip if their best player was out for an extended period.

There was a lot UConn could do better, and this crew has some pretty severe self-destructive impulses, but they are paying hard and pulling these games out for the most part.

 

[bendm]

Samson should never ever touch the ball on the last possession of the game unless he’s catching it directly above the rim for an alley oop

 

[WhereistheDove?]

There won't be any more to put on Liam's shoulders than what he was giving us before the injury. He naturally gives us things on the court and with his personality that nobody else on this team gives us and everyone else can go back to their regular roles. Hass will still handle the ball a ton but Liam will help supplement that. AK will go back to being an awesome connector who gets a lot of open looks from three and cuts for layups. Solo will be be hounded less than he's being hounded currently, Stewart will go back to his role off the bench but will hopefully be better equipped becuase of his time starting, and Ross will be playing less. The shooting, handling, driving Liam brings is all natural to him...he's a pro. The energy and passion he'll bring is also natural for him, he's our emotional leader already because that's how he's wired.

We have no one that can come close to replicating the amount of defensive gravity Liam draws with the ball in his hands. We just plainly don’t have another guy that can consistently get into the lane off the bounce and is a both a strong scoring and playmaking threat once he’s there. The way opposing defenses have to play Liam opens up so much for the more complementary guys like Ball, Karaban, and Samson.