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AntG168 said:
Someone said we’re headed towards the bubble. You can not make it up. We call the players soft but some of these takes are softer than cottonelle tissue. Tough BE win. Won’t be the last this season. Enjoy the ride. We roll!
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Yes but there’s also still some people talking about three-peat which is more ridiculous than being on the bubble. The team is what it is at this point.
 
AntG168 said:
*slaps forehead

So you’re not going to stop.

Got it.
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You not recognizing that Castle had to force his way to play PG in the NBA because we did not do that for him here shows how little you know about hoop.

Please stop responding to my post with dumb replies man.
 
HuskyWarrior611 said:
it’s not just Hurley. NBA scouts invited him to camp over the summer. The putty is there for him and others in the sophomore class. They just have to keep getting experience and coached in the right way.

If we give up on Nowell already that would be going into year 8 without a PG that he’s identified, recruited, and developed out of HS on his own.

At this point I’m having serious worries on Hurley being able to develop guards on his own in general.
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Who is giving up on Nowell? Kid is a young frosh in a sophisticated offense playing PG. He’ll be fine.

Hurleys played PG, I’m sure he can coach it.
 
I’m as frustrated as anyone in our D, but man we need a little perspective. Two years ago we finished January 16-6. Now, we’re throwing the team under the buss at 14-5 and 6-2 in the BE, without arguably our best player injured….oh, and we are only the 2nd team in the last 50 years to even have an outside shot at a three-peat.

My point is that things will get better. It’s incredible that we are even in this spot with everything we lost the last two years. Reinforcements will come. This year we are playing with house money.
 
superjohn said:
There won't be any more to put on Liam's shoulders than what he was giving us before the injury. He naturally gives us things on the court and with his personality that nobody else on this team gives us and everyone else can go back to their regular roles. Hass will still handle the ball a ton but Liam will help supplement that. AK will go back to being an awesome connector who gets a lot of open looks from three and cuts for layups. Solo will be hounded less than he's being hounded currently, Stewart will go back to his role off the bench but will hopefully be better equipped because of his time starting, and Ross will be playing less. The shooting, handling, driving Liam brings is all natural to him...he's a pro. The energy and passion he'll bring is also natural for him, he's our emotional leader already because that's how he's wired.
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I think the skill and roster construction is the bigger issue, but agreed that this is the first UConn team in a long time that I can remember without DOGS. Andre Jackson, Cam Spencer, Kevin Freeman, Ed Saunders, Donny Marshall, Tyrese Martin, Shabazz Napier, Rod Sellers, Kemba Walker, Ryan Boatright. Dudes who were liable to blow their lid at any time and get T'd up. Guys who oozed competitiveness. Liam definitely has it, and we need that, but it's a glaring team deficit. Hurley talked about this the other day. Not sure we are going to toughen up with this roster, but I hope we start factoring this into our recruiting because playing with a chip on your shoulder matters.
 
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RuffRuff said:
Who is giving up on Nowell? Kid is a young frosh in a sophisticated offense playing PG. He’ll be fine.

Hurleys played PG, I’m sure he can coach it.
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I saw a couple of posts from people asking who will run PG for us here in chat. Kind of set me off a little tonight.

Just hate people writing off talented kids in general and we have a lot on this team.
 
HuskyWarrior611 said:
You not recognizing that Castle had to force his way to play PG in the NBA because we did not do that for him here shows how little you know about hoop.

Please stop responding to my post with dumb replies man.
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Why are you complaining about the utilization of Castle on the best team in modern college basketball history? In the Butler post game thread, of all places
 
HuskyWarrior611 said:
I saw a couple of posts from people asking who will run PG for us here in chat. Kind of set me off a little tonight.

Just hate people writing off talented kids in general and we have a lot on this team.
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If we don't bring in a top PG from the portal then it'll be a bad off-season.
 
Mike Honcho said:
I think the skill and roster construction is the bigger issue, but agreed that this is the first UConn team in a long time that I can remember without DOGS. Andre Jackson, Cam Spencer, Kevin Freeman, Ed Saunders, Donny Marshall, Tyrese Martin, Shabazz Napier, Rod Sellers, Kemba Walker, Ryan Boatright. Dudes who were liable to blow their lid at any time and get T'd up. Guys who oozed competitiveness. Liam definitely has it, and we need that, but it's a glaring team deficit. Hurley talked about this the other day. Not sure we are going to toughen up with this roster, but I hope we start factoring this into our recruiting because playing with a chip on your shoulder matters.
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Couldn’t agree more. My points in other rosters construction threads was Dan Hurley over indexing on the cultural fitting choir boys that can process and not enough street swag and athleticism. Team is looking a little too uniform. Give me Johnie Selvie baby!
 
Mike Honcho said:
I think the skill and roster construction is the bigger issue, but agreed that this is the first UConn team in a long time that I can remember without DOGS. Andre Jackson, Cam Spencer, Kevin Freeman, Ed Saunders, Donny Marshall, Tyrese Martin, Shabazz Napier, Rod Sellers, Kemba Walker, Ryan Boatright. Dudes who were liable to blow their lid at any time and get T'd up. Guys who oozed competitiveness. Liam definitely has it, and we need that, but it's a glaring team deficit. Hurley talked about this the other day. Not sure we are going to toughen up with this roster, but I hope we start factoring this into our recruiting because playing with a chip on your shoulder matters.
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I know what you mean. But none of those guys outside of the Hurley era was not liable to blow their lid and get T’d up.

The PGs especially with Kemba, Shabazz, and Boatright were the definition of calm, cool, and collective. They were competitive but controlled their emotions to the point they baited others to blow their lid. Remember when Kemba drew that tech against SDSU in the tourney?

He was one of the nicest and calmest people you would meet.
 
HuskyWarrior611 said:
You not recognizing that Castle had to force his way to play PG in the NBA because we did not do that for him here shows how little you know about hoop.

Please stop responding to my post with dumb replies man.
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He played point here.

Now can you stop?
 
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JMick said:
If we don't bring in a top PG from the portal then it'll be a bad off-season.
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I think it’s practically a foregone conclusion that a point guard will be on the shopping list with Diarra out of eligibility.
 
The negatives have been discussed ad nauseam in this thread already. But there was one change I liked on offense. Everyone here was complaining after the Creighton game about how we had no answer for the defense sagging off Samson Johnson and Tarris Reed Jr. Multiple times tonight we had Stewart or Karaban flash to the free throw line and as a result they either had a wide open jumper or were able to dump it off for an easy layup. Thought that was a great change and a nice option against teams who will keep using that defense
 
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TheHorde said:
I mean he is. But be humbler, Danny cmon.
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Who cares what Hurley says to the refs. I’m sure he said much worse that we don’t know about. He let the ref know. Guess what the next play Samson got away with a push and we got a turnover. So it worked. That was the point.

Hurley says crazy shhh when he pissed. UConn fans being mad that he said that need to get over yourselves. Embrace the crazy coach who won back to back and took us from the basement to the top of the world. We still ranked top 20 and still have top 3 class coming in. Hurley can say whatever he wants and I will defend him.
 
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HuskyWarrior611 said:
I’m not saying Diarra is good at the end of the shot clock. But it’s obvious that’s what we trust him to do because he has the ball almost every single time it happens.

I don’t know why we don’t give Solo the ball more at the end of games
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I agree with the Solo Ball comment but Diarra should never have the ball at the end of the shot clock as he is cluless how to create. Ball's offensive game has been developing off the dribble and agree he should get more chances. I just want Diarra start the offense and give he ball to Karaban, Ball or McNeeley to create at the end of the shot clock.
 
After a back2back , losing 7 nba players in two years. A rebuild year was expected.

The Offense has a simple answer , we need Liam.

The Defense….. will be better next season. Cant imagine Dan having 2 bad defensive teams in a row. Especially with the talent pool he has now.

Enjoy player development
 
Hard to figure out this team. In stretches they look really good, and in other stretches they look awful. Their opponents have a lot of 11-1 or 10-0 runs … but in general they are treading water while McNeeley out.

The bad: UConn fouls too much of three point shots. UConn has stretches where they can’t score, and opponents score 5 times in a row on iso drives or iso post ups. UConn also leaves shooters open in the corners all the time. If UConn’s offensive set doesn’t work they don’t have a great option of someone who can create their own shot in the last 7 seconds of clock.

The good: When UConn blocks a shot or gets a steal they get some nice transition transition baskets. UConn runs some nice offensive sets and gets a lot of good shots off their sets. Ball is a great shooter, and getting better are scoring in different ways. Karaban is a great player and makes a lot of clutch baskets.

To do anything postseason UConn needs:
1. A healthy McNeeley
2. Jaylyn Stewart to play consistently good, and not just good every 3rd game.
3. Either Mahaney or Nowell to be a player who can consistently score when driving to hoop.
 
3rdbass said:
I agree with the Solo Ball comment but Diarra should never have the ball at the end of the shot clock as he is cluless how to create. Ball's offensive game has been developing off the dribble and agree he should get more chances. I just want Diarra start the offense and give he ball to Karaban, Ball or McNeeley to create at the end of the shot clock.
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We’re in agreement. Sorry if that wasn’t clear.

I’m saying our coaching staff trusts Diarra to do that. But I do not agree with the decision to do that.
 
Still struggling to inbound the ball. Karaban had to take a TO. Hope we correct this as late season big games will be at risk. Our D still is rough but it is the scoring droughts that get us in trouble. Samson again with the ball at the key with no defender on him. As others mentioned passing to Samson outside with under 10 on the shot clock. Why? Alex did a lot this game with a sore ankle. He really tried to make the winning plays in the second half and led the way. Game ball to him.
 
HuskyWarrior611 said:
No that’s not the reason. But he was drafted there for a reason. I don’t care to have a Newton conversation because it’d sound harsh and the board wouldn’t be that receptive anyways.
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Well how your rate him as an NBA player has no impact on how good of a college player he was. You know Adama Sanogo is all playing the G Leaugue. So you are also saying he wouldn't be an impactful player on this team?
 
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