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Geno-ista, It isn't the blowouts that is cutting the crowds down, it's the policies of the Athletic Dept. and Ticket Office that is p-- off the season ticket holders! Paying 3x's the price at Bridgeport for Regionals than any other Regional doesn't help either! No other major college disrespects their season ticket holders more than UCONN!

Let's keep the two things separate. My understanding is that Regional pricing is determined by the NCAA, not the hosting school or participants. I don't disagree that the UConn office could up their game.
 
I also am a little surprised with the view of the good old days of Big East basketball
Well the problem is it will look like the "good old days" compared to the AAC. As bad as the BE was, or as dominate as UCONN was in the BE, it'll only be more so with the AAC. Unfortunately.
 
Ice – I have watched the UConn women play for nearly 20 years. In that time I doubt if I have missed more than a handful of games. By my count I suspect I have watched close to 600 UConn women’s games. While I won’t pretend to be a basketball expert, I think I’ve watched enough to understand what the teams are doing on offense and defense.

Part of the problem is that in blowouts against grossly overmatched opponents Auriemma typically takes his foot off the gas midway through the 1st half and is usually standing with both feet on the brakes by the time the 2nd half begins. There really is little to watch and understand since the team is not playing their “regular” game.

Athletic competitions are made up of many components. In the case of a typical snoozer, a huge component is missing – the competition. To borrow on Kibitzer’s analogy – For me it’s a bit like watching a Stones concert without Jagger.
 
Ice – I have watched the UConn women play for nearly 20 years. In that time I doubt if I have missed more than a handful of games. By my count I suspect I have watched close to 600 UConn women’s games. While I won’t pretend to be a basketball expert, I think I’ve watched enough to understand what the teams are doing on offense and defense.

Part of the problem is that in blowouts against grossly overmatched opponents Auriemma typically takes his foot off the gas midway through the 1st half and is usually standing with both feet on the brakes by the time the 2nd half begins. There really is little to watch and understand since the team is not playing their “regular” game.

Athletic competitions are made up of many components. In the case of a typical snoozer, a huge component is missing – the competition. To borrow on Kibitzer’s analogy – For me it’s a bit like watching a Stones concert without Jagger.
I've seen those same games and I have to disagree somewhat. Games against former players excluded, Geno has them play all out until the last 10 minutes of the game.
 
I enjoy the games, wait for them all year in some ways...IAC, my time in life is limited, so boredom is not an option. In fact, I DVR all games, fun to rewatch and zero in on specific interests.

 
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Geno-ista, It isn't the blowouts that is cutting the crowds down, it's the policies of the Athletic Dept. and Ticket Office that is p-- off the season ticket holders! Paying 3x's the price at Bridgeport for Regionals than any other Regional doesn't help either! No other major college disrespects their season ticket holders more than UCONN!
Thanks for the rsvp--- but I have only been a Season ticket holder for 3 yrs- I used to just go to many of the bigger games prior. so I really can't comment on your comment with knowledge. I don't mind paying the prices to see them if it helps our program. Obviously I would like to pay less. But you long time Season ticket holders know better than I on that issue.
 
Large, very large screen TVs with HD.
All these points are definitely part of the reason and accurate for lower attendance. But there are alot of fans out there, that would get on a nice bus 2-3 times a season to go to a game, from their local town hall centers, to experience the thrill of being there, the band, the pre game video, etc... I am convinced, that if more of these efforts were made- we would fill the last of the higher sections in Gampel. They wouldn't become season ticket holders, but I think we would fill alot of seats. I think our group car pooling from the , New Haven Area makes it alot easier on gas, cost, comradery on the drive, and helping tot keep the driver awake on the way home at night. Other benefits, gets me off the couch and I am less likely to fill up on junk food that I don't need but would eat otherwise. Plus we enjoy a longer walk to and from gampel or XL from where we park. And these people would spend alot of money at the book store as they are only there a few times a year.
 
Ice – I have watched the UConn women play for nearly 20 years. In that time I doubt if I have missed more than a handful of games. By my count I suspect I have watched close to 600 UConn women’s games. While I won’t pretend to be a basketball expert, I think I’ve watched enough to understand what the teams are doing on offense and defense.

Part of the problem is that in blowouts against grossly overmatched opponents Auriemma typically takes his foot off the gas midway through the 1st half and is usually standing with both feet on the brakes by the time the 2nd half begins. There really is little to watch and understand since the team is not playing their “regular” game.

Athletic competitions are made up of many components. In the case of a typical snoozer, a huge component is missing – the competition. To borrow on Kibitzer’s analogy – For me it’s a bit like watching a Stones concert without Jagger.
I agree that Geno takes his foot off the gas re pressing/trapping defense and fast break offense, but he never takes his foot off in terms of coaching and running good half court offense and defense. He uses blow-outs as ways to refine players skills and the teams ability to play different types of offense and defense and I find that process fascinating. We have all seen him with a quick hook when a player makes a boneheaded mistake with the scoring margin in the 30s and come close to full on embolism when a player does something wrong. And it also gives extended looks at and development time to the bench players and that process is something I also find fascinating.
(I also remember a game that wasn't going to be competitive with I think Providence years ago where he benched the whole starting unit because they were dishonoring his ideal of good basketball.)
 
I enjoy the games, wait for them all year in some ways...IAC, my time in life is limited, so boredom is not an option. In fact, I DVR all games, fun to rewatch and zero in on specific interests.

Ozzie- I'm with you--- I go to every home game thru tmts and regionals- and the number of times I watch each of my DVR'd games after I attend, it almost embarrassing to tell. I love to try to learn how they do what they do. The more I watch them, the more I appreciate them!
 
Ice – I have watched the UConn women play for nearly 20 years. In that time I doubt if I have missed more than a handful of games. By my count I suspect I have watched close to 600 UConn women’s games. While I won’t pretend to be a basketball expert, I think I’ve watched enough to understand what the teams are doing on offense and defense.

Part of the problem is that in blowouts against grossly overmatched opponents Auriemma typically takes his foot off the gas midway through the 1st half and is usually standing with both feet on the brakes by the time the 2nd hal begins. There really is little to watch and understand since the team is not playing their “regular” game.

Athletic competitions are made up of many components. In the case of a typical snoozer, a huge component is missing – the competition. To borrow on Kibitzer’s analogy – For me it’s a bit like watching a Stones concert without Jagger.

Everything you describe is why learning and understanding what one is seeing can be helpful in maintaining interest. I have always been a basketball offense and defense geek. Even when Geno takes his foot off the gas and UCONN's fine tuned Masserati jail break offense he expects the team to run the regular half court offense with its read options. Understanding what that offense should look like and what is happening you begin to know what improvement should look like and what the opponent is doing to try and screw it up.

Right now I am saving my shekels to buy the new 6 DVD set by Geno and Bobby Knight. The more you learn the more you see.

I have said several times that I am a terrible in arena fan because often I fall silent watching the game and what the teams are doing. Similarly, I like listening to long theology lectures and spent two days in Gettysburg last week doing just that. What can I say I am a geek at heart. :)
 
I agree that Geno takes his foot off the gas re pressing/trapping defense and fast break offense, but he never takes his foot off in terms of coaching and running good half court offense and defense. He uses blow-outs as ways to refine players skills and the teams ability to play different types of offense and defense and I find that process fascinating. We have all seen him with a quick hook when a player makes a boneheaded mistake with the scoring margin in the 30s and come close to full on embolism when a player does something wrong. And it also gives extended looks at and development time to the bench players and that process is something I also find fascinating.
(I also remember a game that wasn't going to be competitive with I think Providence years ago where he benched the whole starting unit because they were dishonoring his ideal of good basketball.)
That Providence game- we looked horrible and he was pissed and for good reason- and to their/Providence's credit- they were athletic and spirited. The were lulling us into average'ness- much like St Johns Did a few years ago( Although St Johns Had much more talent). There was another early, possible pre season game maybe 2 years ago, at the XL center, where the girls almost played from the start like they didn't want to destroy them- those games we just mentioned don't happen to often. I still like to watch them in person, regardless of the opponent, and mostly because I can afford to, I appreciate and respect the team, coach and program- they deserve my support. they have to play the oppoents in conference they are dealt. i don't want to go back to being a fair weather fan like I used to be, going only to bigger games. I am a recent empty nester so it is much easier now as I have much more time as well.
 
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Everything you describe is why learning and understanding what one is seeing can be helpful in maintaining interest. I have always been a basketball offense and defense geek. Even when Geno takes his foot off the gas and UCONN's fine tuned Masserati jail break offense he expects the team to run the regular half court offense with its read options. Understanding what that offense should look like and what is happening you begin to know what improvement should look like and what the opponent is doing to try and screw it up.

Right now I am saving my shekels to buy the new 6 DVD set by Geno and Bobby Knight. The more you learn the more you see.

I have said several times that I am a terrible in arena fan because often I fall silent watching the game and what the teams are doing. Similarly, I like listening to long theology lectures and spent two days in Gettysburg last week doing just that. What can I say I am a geek at heart. :)
Hey Icebear--- will you be able to attend the game at Penn State? Or will your schedule on the weekend/Sunday prevent that??? The Higher Calling issue really comes into question on this one? Maybe just a fleeting 2nd thought about it? Love Ya!
 
I enjoy the games, wait for them all year in some ways...IAC, my time in life is limited, so boredom is not an option. In fact, I DVR all games, fun to rewatch and zero in on specific interests.

But it killed the cat.
 
I was thinking about this thread just now while kayaking around Lake Atitlan, and something occurred to me that I don't think anyone has quite mentioned yet. When we watch a Huskies season unfold, we are, of course, watching individual games, most of them blowouts, some (maybe) closer. And watching the individual games is certainly enjoyable. But we are also watching something else; we are watching a master craftsman build a machine out of a number of individual parts. He shops for the best parts he can find, then carefully examines each part and evaluates how it will best fit into the machine. Then he mills and polishes it towards the shape he wants it to have so as to best fit into the machine. Some of the parts just need fine polishing, some need a lot of grinding. Some have to be hammered. A few can never be made to fit at all. Even he can't tell for sure when he first starts working on a part exactly how, or even whether, it will ultimately fit into the machine. And the design of the machine itself is fluid, and changes as individual parts prove too good or not good enough or just not really suited for their originally intended purpose, but maybe excellent for some other purpose. (I won't cite any examples, because every Husky fan can think of his or her own.) Occasionally a part breaks (BB's knee) and then the over-all design has to be changed and all the other parts have to be re-fitted to the new design. Sometimes the damn machine just won't run right, for no apparent reason. (First half of Stanford NC game?!) But when it is hitting on all cylinders, what a joy to watch!

As with any artist, not all products are masterpieces; some are merely good. But watching the original proto-machine, with all its rough edges, gradually start to run smoother and smoother until maybe it ends up being something like the masterpiece we saw back in March, is a great part, I think, of the pleasure of being a Husky fan. Of course, all coaches try to do this, and some are quite good at it, but Geno is the true master craftsman and it is a real privilege to watch his products develop into their final form.
 
I have taken a vacation day. I will be there.
Good for you---- I wanted so bad to organize a road trip there. But between fly fishing from April- Oct, season tickets, Maggie Dixon, Tmts, and my first Final Four this year- My wife put the brakes on me- I can't blame her. I would have done a road trip to MD game on Friday and then to Happy Valley for Sunday! You will have to give us detailed report about the feeling or mood at the field house at the game, etc..
 
Great fly fishing in PA. Joe Humphries would tell you so.
 
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I was thinking about this thread just now while kayaking around Lake Atitlan, and something occurred to me that I don't think anyone has quite mentioned yet. When we watch a Huskies season unfold, we are, of course, watching individual games, most of them blowouts, some (maybe) closer. And watching the individual games is certainly enjoyable. But we are also watching something else; we are watching a master craftsman build a machine out of a number of individual parts. He shops for the best parts he can find, then carefully examines each part and evaluates how it will best fit into the machine. Then he mills and polishes it towards the shape he wants it to have so as to best fit into the machine. Some of the parts just need fine polishing, some need a lot of grinding. Some have to be hammered. A few can never be made to fit at all. Even he can't tell for sure when he first starts working on a part exactly how, or even whether, it will ultimately fit into the machine. And the design of the machine itself is fluid, and changes as individual parts prove too good or not good enough or just not really suited for their originally intended purpose, but maybe excellent for some other purpose. (I won't cite any examples, because every Husky fan can think of his or her own.) Occasionally a part breaks (BB's knee) and then the over-all design has to be changed and all the other parts have to be re-fitted to the new design. Sometimes the damn machine just won't run right, for no apparent reason. (First half of Stanford NC game?!) But when it is hitting on all cylinders, what a joy to watch!

As with any artist, not all products are masterpieces; some are merely good. But watching the original proto-machine, with all its rough edges, gradually start to run smoother and smoother until maybe it ends up being something like the masterpiece we saw back in March, is a great part, I think, of the pleasure of being a Husky fan. Of course, all coaches try to do this, and some are quite good at it, but Geno is the true master craftsman and it is a real privilege to watch his products develop into their final form.
Wow- Eloquent!!! Really!
 
Great fly fishing in PA. Joe Humphries would tell you so.

Been there - done that and agree 100%. Pretty good deer hunting too although that's probably no longer PC.
 
Everything you describe is why learning and understanding what one is seeing can be helpful in maintaining interest. I have always been a basketball offense and defense geek. Even when Geno takes his foot off the gas and UCONN's fine tuned Masserati jail break offense he expects the team to run the regular half court offense with its read options. Understanding what that offense should look like and what is happening you begin to know what improvement should look like and what the opponent is doing to try and screw it up.

Right now I am saving my shekels to buy the new 6 DVD set by Geno and Bobby Knight. The more you learn the more you see.

I have said several times that I am a terrible in arena fan because often I fall silent watching the game and what the teams are doing. Similarly, I like listening to long theology lectures and spent two days in Gettysburg last week doing just that. What can I say I am a geek at heart. :)

That confession took courage Padre. Say two Hail Maries, 3 Our Fath...er, ooops, sorry!
 
I was thinking about this thread just now while kayaking around Lake Atitlan, and something occurred to me that I don't think anyone has quite mentioned yet. When we watch a Huskies season unfold, we are, of course, watching individual games, most of them blowouts, some (maybe) closer. And watching the individual games is certainly enjoyable. But we are also watching something else; we are watching a master craftsman build a machine out of a number of individual parts. He shops for the best parts he can find, then carefully examines each part and evaluates how it will best fit into the machine. Then he mills and polishes it towards the shape he wants it to have so as to best fit into the machine. Some of the parts just need fine polishing, some need a lot of grinding. Some have to be hammered. A few can never be made to fit at all. Even he can't tell for sure when he first starts working on a part exactly how, or even whether, it will ultimately fit into the machine. And the design of the machine itself is fluid, and changes as individual parts prove too good or not good enough or just not really suited for their originally intended purpose, but maybe excellent for some other purpose. (I won't cite any examples, because every Husky fan can think of his or her own.) Occasionally a part breaks (BB's knee) and then the over-all design has to be changed and all the other parts have to be re-fitted to the new design. Sometimes the damn machine just won't run right, for no apparent reason. (First half of Stanford NC game?!) But when it is hitting on all cylinders, what a joy to watch!

As with any artist, not all products are masterpieces; some are merely good. But watching the original proto-machine, with all its rough edges, gradually start to run smoother and smoother until maybe it ends up being something like the masterpiece we saw back in March, is a great part, I think, of the pleasure of being a Husky fan. Of course, all coaches try to do this, and some are quite good at it, but Geno is the true master craftsman and it is a real privilege to watch his products develop into their final form.

VG alzorrogris, but don't forget that the master mechanic has a superb team of coaches and trainers around him who carry a major load all year and mean a lot to each member of the team.
 
Been there - done that and agree 100%. Pretty good deer hunting too although that's probably no longer PC.
LOL.... why would you say that? Deer eat everyone's gardens! :-)
 
I was thinking about this thread just now while kayaking around Lake Atitlan, and something occurred to me that I don't think anyone has quite mentioned yet. When we watch a Huskies season unfold, we are, of course, watching individual games, most of them blowouts, some (maybe) closer. And watching the individual games is certainly enjoyable. But we are also watching something else; we are watching a master craftsman build a machine out of a number of individual parts. He shops for the best parts he can find, then carefully examines each part and evaluates how it will best fit into the machine. Then he mills and polishes it towards the shape he wants it to have so as to best fit into the machine. Some of the parts just need fine polishing, some need a lot of grinding. Some have to be hammered. A few can never be made to fit at all. Even he can't tell for sure when he first starts working on a part exactly how, or even whether, it will ultimately fit into the machine. And the design of the machine itself is fluid, and changes as individual parts prove too good or not good enough or just not really suited for their originally intended purpose, but maybe excellent for some other purpose. (I won't cite any examples, because every Husky fan can think of his or her own.) Occasionally a part breaks (BB's knee) and then the over-all design has to be changed and all the other parts have to be re-fitted to the new design. Sometimes the damn machine just won't run right, for no apparent reason. (First half of Stanford NC game?!) But when it is hitting on all cylinders, what a joy to watch!

As with any artist, not all products are masterpieces; some are merely good. But watching the original proto-machine, with all its rough edges, gradually start to run smoother and smoother until maybe it ends up being something like the masterpiece we saw back in March, is a great part, I think, of the pleasure of being a Husky fan. Of course, all coaches try to do this, and some are quite good at it, but Geno is the true master craftsman and it is a real privilege to watch his products develop into their final form.
Post of the day (or week or month!) Really nicely put and very true. And it is not just a year long process with the individual parts but because it is women's basketball it is a wonderful four year evolution that we are privileged to watch that overlaps with each successive four year evolution.

And RockyMTblue - a very good addendum to the original posts - Geno may be the artisan craftsman, but he has a shop full of master machinists who he counts on to add their own artistry to the product.
 
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Been there - done that and agree 100%. Pretty good deer hunting too although that's probably no longer PC.
Nice young 6 point buck in our backyard this morning and turkeys almost weekly.
 
Nice young 6 point buck in our backyard this morning and turkeys almost weekly.
My wife claims that there is a big Turkey in our house every day......
 
My wife claims that there is a big Turkey in our house every day......
I would suggest staying away from the house on the 4th Thursday of this month. Maybe on Wednesday, too, just to be safe.


We have amazing wildlife through the yard. Deer, turkeys, bear, various hawks and owls, turtles, red squirrels and gray squirrels, chippies, snakes, moles, voles, opossum, foxes, skunks, raccoons, and forget numbering all the birds but they do include five species of woodpeckers including the large pileated woodpecker. Oh, and an icebear. It is great fun living in Central PA.
 
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Yes ... those d_mn deer! I have four doe who visit regularly to chew all available plant life growing between the ground and 5' - thinking of offering an armchair, outdoor heater, free hot toddies, etc to any bow hunters interested in a civilized hunting experience. Darn beasts just look up quizzically whenever I open a door. If I shout or run towards them they may move a few feet away before returning to their browsing.
 
Spread some paprika around the afflicted areas.
 
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