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Thank you.
Of course you never know, I just don’t get why he’s thought of as a top candidate.
OT: Brad Stevens Resigns and becomes GM/Ainge Resigning - Potential New Cs HC?
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Of course you never know, I just don’t get why he’s thought of as a top candidate.
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Why would Jay Wright take more money to babysit grown men who won’t even listen to him? There are very few appealing and true NBA coaching gigs, this isn’t one of them.
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I can't tell if you dislike the nba or are just throwing out contradictory statements? They are either grown men or in need of babysitters. What are the characteristics of a false NBA coaching job? If there are few appealing AND true jobs, what are the appealing but false gigs? Why would anyone take more money?
Seriously though, there are plenty of good candidates with NBA experience and it is sounding more and more like the Celtics need diversity.
Ainge proved out of touch with current players, had burned too many GM bridges and was held accountable for being too cold to Isaiah Thomas.
Its rare that college to NBA works and Brad Stevens gets to be the best current exception to the rule. As GM he's unlikely to test that rule - if he correctly finds a great college-to-pro's coach it diminishes what Steven's accomplished and more importantly if he misses on it he loses his job as quickly as possible (1yr).
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It sounds like the stars didn’t like brads offensive system.
I think Ewing would be a really interesting candidate.
One of the best resumes of a non former NBA hc.
Joerger can go toe to toe with anyone on X’s and O’s
I don’t know if there’s a model to finding the next spoelstra or nick nurse either.
Hiring a good coach seems like such a crapshoot in the NBA. A good gm seems far more important in most cases.
What would qualify her to be Head Coach of the Most Storied Franchise in NBA history?
Certainly she can be an assistant but a head coach, sorry No Way. I know its not going to be well recv'd with the PC crowd that overruns this site but she is in no way shape or form ready to be a head coach in the NBA. Maybe after putting in 10+ years as a lead assistant but not now.
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Points well taken.
I was just responding to the part about being fired. Many coaches have been successful after getting fired in 1 place and then moving to another team and doing very well. Being fired doesn't automatically make you a bad coach.
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Yeah she’s not going to have the best resume.
I think she’d kill it on women’s Cbb on the recruiting trail though.
Hence why I would prefer her to end up in storrs
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Definitely doesn't, and I never suggested that or wrote that. I simply asked why is the guy who was fired from the Hawks suddenly a hot name for the Celtics job?
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Agree 100%. The NBA is a league of transcendent talents. A GM that can find and develop talent, and get decent complimentary pieces next to them is sooo important for teams.
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Geno's job would a step up from the Celtics for Becky
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Yeah, I'm surprised Brad Stevens stepped UP only to be Celtics GM instead of waiting for that job, going back to college, living in Storrs instead of Boston. Besides what could go wrong succeeding a legend at UConn?!
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I don't think its a crapshoot to find a good coach. You identify a leader, a motivator, someone who understands X & O's, the modern game inclusive of analytics and ideally someone with experience under intense pressure or scrutiny. Where you go wrong are the re-treads or the name guys (Kidd) that may not be continuously committed to the work of coaching. After that its about fit and buy-in and I'd guess Stevens can identify what would fit on current roster and will include Brown & Tatum at least before announcing if not involved in decision.
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Players run the teams, not coaches. Except for maybe a few teams (San Antonio, Utah come to mind). You think a well established college coach is going to tell Russell Westbrook to stop taking bad shots and stealing rebounds? The game is full of ego and that’s nearly impossible to coach.
Celtics need diversity? No they just need players to score and stay healthy. Miss me with that diversity needed to win crap.
This is the only way to fix the Pride after Kyrie stomped on the logo.
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Your first paragraph is why I think Brad moved to the front office.
Your second is true. Boston just needs to win. Period. But they are ina. Spot where their Max players are so young they can afford a short step back if it’s good for the long term.
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You inadvertently hit the nail on the head. For players (and most humans btw) to listen they also need to feel heard. Much as I disliked Kyrie's unprovoked shot, Ainge took the bait and reacted poorly by saying he'd never seen racism in his 18yrs - that was simply not true and glossing over problems does not work or eventually bites you on the ar$3.
You cannot put your head in the sand and then complain about others not listening.
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I missed those comments by Ainge, wow. That's a bad look for him.
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Jerome Allen is gonna get this job.
Separately, this is easily one of the best examples of 'failing upward' I've seen in professional sports. Brian Cashman's tenure as Yankees' GM, Dave Gettleman's tenure as NY Giants' GM and Jeff Bridich's Rockies tenure are some of the others.
Separately, this is easily one of the best examples of 'failing upward' I've seen in professional sports. Brian Cashman's tenure as Yankees' GM, Dave Gettleman's tenure as NY Giants' GM and Jeff Bridich's Rockies tenure are some of the others.
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I don't know the latter two guys. Stevens was very good every year but this past one, I don't think we can call that a fail.
It might be an example of Ainge/ownership fail in giving Stevens that big contract, TBD. Clearly if they didn't Stevens would have jumped to coach Indiana or gforbid ... Duke. The latter so distasteful I might promote him again just to avoid thinking about it.
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not making a big all in move was dannys bug mistake. Instead we have grant, Edwards, Romeo and a few dumped contracts.
I’d say he mismanaged the hayward situation if the Indiana rumor is true.
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YES. He is the new runaway candidate.
He's only 61 so I doubt he's leaving the profession for good. He still has 5 or 6 years in his tanks minimum.
He's the coach that can get this group to the finals.
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Load him up with some analytically inclined coaches and let this team rip.
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Yup. Also like that he has the clout to hold the talented young guys accountable. Sometimes Smart and Tatum (and others) need a reality check.
We're past the let the young guys play phase with Brad. It's time to win
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Really curious to see what Brad does wih Kemba.
it sounds like he wants to get bigger. So Kemba probably gone.
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No inside info here, but I just have a feeling Kemba has one more year in Boston. Maybe they try to develop Pritchard into that bigger point guard this year, and try to use Kemba this year while protecting his knee to maximize his value going forward.
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He's not leaving, he said:
"Dallas will always be home, but I am excited about the next chapter of my coaching career,"
Get him.
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