Bracketology 3/5/23

[HuskyNan]

It will be interesting to see what weight the committee puts on the NET. LSU is #2, UConn is #3. It could change after Monday if UConn and #11 Villanova get to Monday and the Huskies win the championship.

 

[Glenn]

I would have been shocked by a 1 seed before the loss, and I see 3 as most likely now. Historically the committee has not given the benefit of the doubt to teams that have weak schedules on purpose .

 

[ConnMotors]

I think that if Louisville and Ohio State pull out victories in their conference finals and UConn wins out then we should grab a number one seed. At worst a high #2 seed.

 

[SLY63]

I think that if Louisville and Ohio State pull out victories in their conference finals and UConn wins out then we should grab a number one seed. At worst a high #2 seed.

Charlie will find a reason to keep us on the 3 line

 

[Bald Husky]

The door is open, now we have to deliver. Whether it's a one, or a high two, this is our last chance to prove how good we are and improve our seeding. We have to beat Marquette comfortably, and then Villanova, or Creighton by double numbers. What all these upsets prove is that everybody is beatable, so why not do our job, get to Dallas, and see who can beat us.

 

[Urshurak]

Has Kim ever commented about why she chose such a ridiculously weak OOC schedule?

 

[Frodo]

It will be interesting to see what weight the committee puts on the NET. LSU is #2, UConn is #3. It could change after Monday if UConn and #11 Villanova get to Monday and the Huskies win the championship.

Actually, UConn is #2 in the NET, along with #4 in Massey. Sonny Moore hasn’t been updated yet to reflect yesterday’s games, but they are #5 there, and likely to move up. That simply doesn’t add up to a #3.

I could be wrong, but for years Creme has merely tried to project what the committee might do, but I think he may have decided to try to be more of an influencer not just predictor.

 

[Bone Dog]

Has Kim ever commented about why she chose such a ridiculously weak OOC schedule?

I don’t think Kim has anything to apologize for. She put her team in a good position for the post season. I suspect if she’d scheduled a tough OOC schedule, LSU might have looked more or less like Tennessee now — with some talent but in disarray as a team. As it is, they’re super confident now.

I still remember what Adia Barnes did to get Arizona ready for the tournament two years ago: feeding her team a steady diet of claiming they’d been dismissed by the world. That chip on their shoulders carried them to the NC game that year.

 

[HuskyNan]

Actually, UConn is #2 in the NET, along with #4 in Massey. Sonny Moore hasn’t been updated yet to reflect yesterday’s games, but they are #5 there, and likely to move up. That simply doesn’t add up to a #3.

I could be wrong, but for years Creme has merely tried to project what the committee might do, but I think he may have decided to try to be more of an influencer not just predictor.

You’re right, UConn is #2. I did look before I posted but the site must have updated after.

DI Women's Basketball Rankings - NCAA Women's Basketball NET Rankings | NCAA.com

Get NCAA women's college basketball rankings from the Associated Press, USA Today/WBCA and NCAA committee.

www.ncaa.com

 

[huskeynut]

Charlie is now good for a laugh or two.

 

[HuskyNan]

Has Kim ever commented about why she chose such a ridiculously weak OOC schedule?

She did while at Baylor. She plays in a tough conference and wants to integrate new parts before the more-important conference play. Geno does the opposite. The AAC and Big East are weaker leagues so he schedules tough out of conference opponents

Neither is right or wrong, it’s just two coaches doing what they think is best for their teams

 

[CBus13]

Has Kim ever commented about why she chose such a ridiculously weak OOC schedule?

I believe she said she scheduled this specific OOC before she got any of her transfers and didn’t know who was going to be on her team. However, her schedule would still have been incredibly weak and it didn’t help that the SEC is seen as having a weak year. But I wouldn’t say the BIG12 was ever overly competitive after Nebraska and TAMU left. (How far they’ve fallen).

 

[UConnCat]

I could be wrong, but for years Creme has merely tried to project what the committee might do, but I think he may have decided to try to be more of an influencer not just predictor.

I think there's some truth to that. With the platform ESPN has given him its seems he's begun to drink his own bathwater.

 

[browns]

I know we root for Virginia Tech to lose but who do we root for between Iowa and Ohio State ?

 

[Urshurak]

I know we root for Virginia Tech to lose but who do we root for between Iowa and Ohio State ?

Iowa. We beat them, so makes UConn look better.

 

[Bone Dog]

I know we root for Virginia Tech to lose but who do we root for between Iowa and Ohio State ?

tOSU, just to give Charlie a harder time putting Iowa on the top line.

 

[socal613ws]

if that is the region Uconn gets who cares if they are a #3. #2 Vtech and #1 Maryland, I think they would take that any day of the week

 

[hoopsfan22]

Charlie will find a reason to keep us on the 3 line

Does it matter though? He's not part of the committee that gets to decide, and isn't he a pharmaceutical salesman for the other 11 months of the year? Why do we care what he thinks?

 

[DefenseBB]

Does it matter though? He's not part of the committee that gets to decide, and isn't he a pharmaceutical salesman for the other 11 months of the year? Why do we care what he thinks?

Because he is the messenger and people want to shoot the messenger when bad news is delivered.
As much as many have tried to inform our fellow BYers that Charlie is just reviewing the metrics (NET, Conference success, injuries) that THE NCAA COMMITTEE will use and tries to predict who makes tournamen what seeding will occur to inject excitement and dialogue. HE IS NOT THE BAD GUY HERE. UConn hurt themselves by losing to 2 unranked tems this year including 1 at home who isn’t going to make the NCAAT. Those are not “good” losses. Now compare that to the losses Stanford and Indiana had to RANKED and very good NET teams In their Conference tournaments. For UConn to be in any discussion for a #1 they need resounding victories today against Marquette (NET 39) and tomorrow with tomorrow being against a ranked Villanova With a 12 NET. Just beating Creighton (NET 17) might not be enough to get it done.

So enough of the pointed criticism at Creme, he does not have any input!

 

[HuskyNan]

Because he is the messenger and people want to shoot the messenger when bad news is delivered.
As much as many have tried to inform our fellow BYers that Charlie is just reviewing the metrics (NET, Conference success, injuries) that THE NCAA COMMITTEE will use and tries to predict who makes tournamen what seeding will occur to inject excitement and dialogue. HE IS NOT THE BAD GUY HERE. UConn hurt themselves by losing to 2 unranked tems this year including 1 at home who isn’t going to make the NCAAT. Those are not “good” losses. Now compare that to the losses Stanford and Indiana had to RANKED and very good NET teams In their Conference tournaments. For UConn to be in any discussion for a #1 they need resounding victories today against Marquette (NET 39) and tomorrow with tomorrow being against a ranked Villanova With a 12 NET. Just beating Creighton (NET 17) might not be enough to get it done.

So enough of the pointed criticism at Creme, he does not have any input!

People can criticize if they like.

 

[Geew1992]

Charlie will find a reason to keep us on the 3 line

I don’t understand why y’all are worried about Crème. He has nothing to do with what the committee decides. He’s irrelevant

 

[toadfoot]

I believe she said she scheduled this specific OOC before she got any of her transfers and didn’t know who was going to be on her team. However, her schedule would still have been incredibly weak and it didn’t help that the SEC is seen as having a weak year. But I wouldn’t say the BIG12 was ever overly competitive after Nebraska and TAMU left. (How far they’ve fallen).

Oh please. She did the same thing when she coached Baylor. Even when she had the best player in the country she played a cupcake OOC schedule. She does it to pad their won-loss record, for no other reason and LSU shouldn’t have ever been in the conversation for a #1. Teams simply should not be rewarded for scheduling fluff competition.

 

[stamfordhusky]

Charlie will find a reason to keep us on the 3 line

I doubt it, but in any event his opinion is completely irrelevant to the actual brackets.

 

[Bone Dog]

I like the way everyone’s autocorrect is putting an accent grave over his name. Makes him sound tres branchè, tres sage.

 

[oldhusky]

It will be interesting to see what weight the committee puts on the NET. LSU is #2, UConn is #3. It could change after Monday if UConn and #11 Villanova get to Monday and the Huskies win the championship.

I think the Villanova point offers an opportunity. Usually I wouldn't expect much of a potential bump from winning the Big East Tournament because it is often a given, but as you point out with Villanova at 11, that could give us a decent boost, but if it winds up being someone else probably not so much, but that is a path with upside potential, and we have received some help from others.

Losing to another great team is very excusable, but I wonder if LSU and Indiana in particular might suffer more of a hit at least in public perception, because of the way they lost, both blowing huge leads. It is hard to think of a potential number1 seed blowing a 17 or 24 point lead but obviously it happens.

 

[SECbbfan24]

Has Kim ever commented about why she chose such a ridiculously weak OOC schedule?

Its weak regardless for ANY P5 team. That said even for Kim standards, that was an all time low. She may schedule weak again but no way its going to be that weak moving forward considering the talent she has coming into BR now and having her own players now. Elite players want to compete against the best and showcase their skills.

But LSU lost 4 of their starting 5, and had 8 of their 10 scholarship players were transfers or freshmen. She made the schedule assuming they would have nothing this coming year before the portal Brought in what it did. Not justifying what she did but she treated the program like they were going to be at rock bottom in rebuild mode. Little did she know the SEC would actually be even more down and hurt them even more.

She knew good and well the OOC schedule could come back to bite her in this way. The schedule allowed for her team to develop chemistry, confidence and give lots of new players playing time. What it didn't do is put them in adversity early on, give any opportunity for quality wins or truly show what they are good or not good at.

I believe LSU is in the Naismith Hall of fame classic next season and the SEC/ACC challenge right off the back should have two games that trump anything close to their OOC schedule this year. If they sprinkle in 3 or 4 more decent games vs P5/Midmajors I would call it day and be pleased.

 

[msf22b]

Iowa. We beat them, so makes UConn look better.

I enjoy watching Iowa...just sayin...

 

[Bone Dog]

I wonder how Dorka would match up against Liz Kitley, if we ended up facing Va Tech in the tournament. I think Aamore and Traylor would struggle against our backcourt, and Aaliyah would dominate Taylor Soule. So it’s not like Dorka would have to shut down Kitley. But I have a feeling it would be a good matchup and might really burnish Dorka’s draft credentials

 

[toadfoot]

Its weak regardless for ANY P5 team. That said even for Kim standards, that was an all time low. She may schedule weak again but no way its going to be that weak moving forward considering the talent she has coming into BR now and having her own players now. Elite players want to compete against the best and showcase their skills.

But LSU lost 4 of their starting 5, and had 8 of their 10 scholarship players were transfers or freshmen. She made the schedule assuming they would have nothing this coming year before the portal Brought in what it did. Not justifying what she did but she treated the program like they were going to be at rock bottom in rebuild mode. Little did she know the SEC would actually be even more down and hurt them even more.

She knew good and well the OOC schedule could come back to bite her in this way. The schedule allowed for her team to develop chemistry, confidence and give lots of new players playing time. What it didn't do is put them in adversity early on, give any opportunity for quality wins or truly show what they are good or not good at.

I believe LSU is in the Naismith Hall of fame classic next season and the SEC/ACC challenge right off the back should have two games that trump anything close to their OOC schedule this year. If they sprinkle in 3 or 4 more decent games vs P5/Midmajors I would call it day and be pleased.

That may well be but it doesn’t explain Baylor’s weak OOC when they were considered
the favorite to win the National Championship with Griner. She has a history as a coach.

 

[chuck.r]

Actually, UConn is #2 in the NET, along with #4 in Massey. Sonny Moore hasn’t been updated yet to reflect yesterday’s games, but they are #5 there, and likely to move up. That simply doesn’t add up to a #3.

I could be wrong, but for years Creme has merely tried to project what the committee might do, but I think he may have decided to try to be more of an influencer not just predictor.

Creme has in the past used the AP Top 25 rankings as a guide to his seedings. No.'s 1-4 would often be his 1-seeds, No.'s 2-8 his 2-seeds, etc. UConn is currently #9 in the AP so by the above parameters, he would have them as the highest 3-seed. Where he will try to follow Committee protocols is in locating 1-16 seeds from the same conference in different regions.