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whaler11 said:
I'm not sold on Ambrose but his record at Towson almost can't be argued against.
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With either Morehead or Ambrose, the real question is talent procurement. Both have benefited from 1A transfers that didn't have to sit a year. They've both shown the ability to win, but at UCONN it will be more difficult to use transfers. Can they recruit, head-to-head, for HS kids?
 
Excalibur said:
In case you haven't noticed, we've had a couple of other big-mouthed arrogant douches coaching our teams . . .
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Yeah...I noticed...been a UCONN for a LONG time. You can have your opinion of Ambrose and I will have mine. I just wonder if you would be so pro Ambrose if we had beaten Towson...and if you wanted him out of here when he was OC.
 
FDNY99 said:
Yeah...I noticed...been a UCONN for a LONG time. You can have your opinion of Ambrose and I will have mine. I just wonder if you would be so pro Ambrose if we had beaten Towson...and if you wanted him out of here when he was OC.
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Why did anyone want him out of here? We scored a lot of points with TL at QB. That was a good offensive team. Was it not pretty enough for you?

With hindsight I would say that the people who wanted him gone were wrong.
 
SubbaBub said:
If true, then that drops him down a peg. The only B1G jobs that might be available, with the possible exception of Nebraska, downright suck. Ill, NW, Indiana, Minn, RU, Purdue, Iowa. Meaning, he isn't getting M, OSU, PSU, Wisc, or MSU. He'd be signing his own ticket back to the MAC.

If he said ACC, then he's be making some sense.
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If I were an AD and I interviewed a candidate, and he told me that he turned down or didn't pursue an opening at Illinois, Iowa, Purdue, etc. because those jobs "suck" and he was afraid he'd be "signing his own ticket back to the MAC", I would end the interview right then and there and cross him off my list.

If I were an AD and I made a decision that a candidate was my guy, and then found out that one of those schools was also interested, it wouldn't "drop him down a peg". Quite the opposite, I'd call up some donors to see if we could outbid those schools for the coach I wanted.
 
metsfan2323 said:
Why did anyone want him out of here? We scored a lot of points with TL at QB. That was a good offensive team. Was it not pretty enough for you?

With hindsight I would say that the people who wanted him gone were wrong.
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You made more sense with your points about why mangini should get the job. I'd take Mangini over Ambrose...and you know how I feel about him.
 
metsfan2323 said:
Why did anyone want him out of here? We scored a lot of points with TL at QB. That was a good offensive team. Was it not pretty enough for you?

With hindsight I would say that the people who wanted him gone were wrong.
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Pretty sure that Edsall had Ambrose pretty well restricted in terms of play calling. In some ways he was a scapegoat for unproductive, but sometimes efficient playcalling.

I was definitely one of those who wanted him gone though, although there were some people like SportsArt (if I remember correctly) that had enough insight to see what was really going on.
 
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whaler11 said:
I'm not sold on Ambrose but his record at Towson almost can't be argued against.
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What impresses me about him is that he built Towson back up. He knows that in order to succeed at UConn you have to recruit for development. The other thing is that the day Pasqualoni was canned, Darius Butler and a host of other Alums were pretty vehement in endorsing him.

It seems like Lembo is not on the table anymore, which is a bummer. We may need to look more closely at the art of the possible and not just throw two million bucks at someone who can command it just because. There are no sure things.

In my mind, and I realize I may be in the minority, a successful high level FCS head coach is even with or greater than a successful FBS coordinator with no head coaching experience.

And oh by the way, Lembo ain't interested. Can't see how Narduzzi or Herman would be different.
 
noeynox said:
He would probably have to be lights out for that to happen though. Every once in a while yiu see Gene Chizik, who parlays a mediocre stint at iowa state into a prominent job like auburn, but not often.
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I don't expect those guys to be mediocre. From day one, the new guy will have enough tools to be successful in the AAC.

If we hire Narduzzi, Lembo or Herman, and they do well here then they will be here for two years at the maximum.
 
ZooCougar said:
If we hire Narduzzi, Lembo or Herman, and they do well here then they will be here for two years at the maximum.
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Unless we end up in B1G!


(okay - stumbling back to reality)...
 
FDNY99 said:
You made more sense with your points about why mangini should get the job. I'd take Mangini over Ambrose...and you know how I feel about him.
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You didn't answer the question, why did you want him gone? Did you think he did a bad job with the TL/Donald Brown offense or was it something else?
 
noeynox said:
He would probably have to be lights out for that to happen though. Every once in a while yiu see Gene Chizik, who parlays a mediocre stint at iowa state into a prominent job like auburn, but not often.
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Gus Malzuhn only had a cup of coffee at Arkansas St. To be fair, he was more on the lights out end of the spectrum for one year.
 
FDNY99 said:
Yeah...I noticed...been a UCONN for a LONG time. You can have your opinion of Ambrose and I will have mine. I just wonder if you would be so pro Ambrose if we had beaten Towson...and if you wanted him out of here when he was OC.
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I have been watching him at Towson since the 2011 season. What I noticed when they played us was not so much the score as it was the way his team was prepared, and how the players responded to him.

I was not a fan of him when he was OC, but given the way that Joe Moorhead was reigned in by Edsall (minus a 5 game stretch in 2009) I don't put that so much on him anymore.

I consider him a fallback option. If you were to ask me, my eyes tell me that Moorhead is an even better fallback option, but I understand the hesitancy there as it is not known how much of their success is a result of just having a better QB than anyone else.
 
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ZooCougar said:
In my mind, and I realize I may be in the minority, a successful high level FCS head coach is even with or greater than a successful FBS coordinator with no head coaching experience.
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I am with you on this.
 
ZooCougar said:
Darius Butler and a host of other Alums were pretty vehement in endorsing him.
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I think it was fat white guy (Rob Lunn) calling for Ambrose, which is interesting because both Butler and Lunn played defense. Ambrose must have been popular among the players.
 
FAIRTIDES said:
With either Morehead or Ambrose, the real question is talent procurement. Both have benefited from 1A transfers that didn't have to sit a year. They've both shown the ability to win, but at UCONN it will be more difficult to use transfers. Can they recruit, head-to-head, for HS kids?
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I wouldn't be quick to put Morehead in Ambrose's category in terms of what they've shown. While the year Morehead is having is very impressive, many of the wins (all in conference games) are being played with transitional rules where Fordham has more scholarship players than their opponents).
 
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ZooCougar said:
If we hire Narduzzi, Lembo or Herman, and they do well here then they will be here for two years at the maximum.
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While I don't want them to leave immediately, oh well. The knock on UConn is that you can't succeed here. If we get a coach to come in here, and in two seasons they have succeeded enough to take a high profile job, you better believe we're a more desireable school than we were before.
 
metsfan2323 said:
I think it was fat white guy (Rob Lunn) calling for Ambrose, which is interesting because both Butler and Lunn played defense. Ambrose must have been popular among the players.
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They weren't the only ones.
 
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ZooCougar said:
Fordham and Towson face off in the playoffs this weekend. Winner gets hired:)
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I was thinking the same thing. I wonder if the people who set up the bracket intentionally put the ex UCONN coaches against each other.
 
SubbaBub said:
If true, then that drops him down a peg. The only B1G jobs that might be available, with the possible exception of Nebraska, downright suck. Ill, NW, Indiana, Minn, RU, Purdue, Iowa. Meaning, he isn't getting M, OSU, PSU, Wisc, or MSU. He'd be signing his own ticket back to the MAC.

If he said ACC, then he's be making some sense.
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If any coach of value which is coming from a mid level BCS program and wants to increase their resume, I don't doubt that they would hesitate to pick a P5 conference over UConn.......no matter how bad a team in that conference may be.

In fact, some talking heads my question how a "quality" individual my pick any AAC team over a P5 conference team. I just spent a vacation week in SEC territory.......their newspapers didn't even report on AAC games........just in score summaries by region of the country.

Warde really has a very difficult job to pull off, I'm getting increasingly nervous that UConn may end up with an individual that does not have a very distinguished resume.
 
businesslawyer said:
I wouldn't be quick to put Morehead in Ambrose's category in terms of what they've shown. While the year Morehead is having is very impressive, many of the wins (all in conference games) are being played with transitional rules where Fordham has more scholarship players than their opponents).
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true!
 
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tduconn said:
If any coach of value which is coming from a mid level BCS program and wants to increase their resume, I don't doubt that they would hesitate to pick a P5 conference over UConn.......no matter how bad a team in that conference may be.
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Not true, a smart coach would make an assessment as to his odds of winning at a school which would include future schedule and talent on roster.

If I'm a head coach and both UCONN and Rutgers offer me tomorrow and money is similar, I'm taking UCONN's offer and its not even close. Rutgers schedule is beyond brutal next year. A good coach can come to UCONN and with Casey Cochran having three more years of eligibility, win big right away. I think Casey is that good.
 
metsfan2323 said:
Not true, a smart coach would make an assessment as to his odds of winning at a school which would include future schedule and talent on roster.

If I'm a head coach and both UCONN and Rutgers offer me tomorrow and money is similar, I'm taking UCONN's offer and its not even close. Rutgers schedule is beyond brutal next year. A good coach can come to UCONN and with Casey Cochran having three more years of eligibility, win big right away. I think Casey is that good.
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Casey also has some weapons. Watching the past two games just made me more angry at the way we pissed this year away.
 
huskymedic said:
RedHawkInsider9:43am via Web
Multiple sources confirming that Notre Dame OC Chuck Martin will be offered the #MiamiOHjob. Martin won 2 titles at Grand Valley before ND.

ChiTribHamilton11:54am via TweetDeck
#NotreDame OC Chuck Martin a lead candidate, if not the lead guy, for Miami (Ohio) job, sources confirm. Trib post:trib.in/1auSuyR
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NDatRivals12:27pm via TweetDeck
Chuck Martin boarding the Miami of Ohio University plane bound of Oxford.

Only UConn relevance is that he was likely on someone's list other than Miami O and now is not. Plus ND has a open OC spot to fill.
 
ZooCougar said:
Casey also has some weapons. Watching the past two games just made me more angry at the way we pissed this year away.
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In a way, the best thing that happened. We could have eked out a bowl game at 6-6, perhaps and remained with the status quo. The program will now get a much needed jolt in the arm.

We had more trouble replacing Wilson/Gratz, and Sio/Trevardo, than I thought would even be case. I knew we were going to take a step back, but up until the last two games, we go no rush from the Dline/Dends in particular, and corners have played well at times and very bad at others. No pass rush, and inconsistent corner play is a recipe for disaster.

Good news is, you are seeing signs out of Ashiru, Kenton Adeyemi is being worked in. The DBs are still iffy, but Byron Jones is improving as is Obi.

The offense looks better. Will have to see about oline play.
 
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