Bouknight Draft Watch

[BlueDogs]

The haters are beside themselves

Nobody is hating on him. We have watched him play game over game. Great player but weak handle and gets turned in traffic, disappears on the court for stretches, and has not shown the ability to make the big plays when it matters. High talent player, but hardly a dominant presence, especially after the elbow injury. As a GM, I would rate him as a boom or bust prospect, and wouldn’t burn an early pick but there are also slim pickings this year. He might go 6-10 as a result but 15+ seems more logical.

 

[Abe1]

Nobody is hating on him. We have watched him play game over game. Great player but weak handle and gets turned in traffic, disappears on the court for stretches, and has not shown the ability to make the big plays when it matters. High talent player, but hardly a dominant presence, especially after the elbow injury. As a GM, I would rate him as a boom or bust prospect, and wouldn’t burn an early pick but there are also slim pickings this year. He might go 6-10 as a result but 15+ seems more logical.

Slim pickings? It’s one of the deepest drafts in years!!! Good thing you aren’t a GM

 

[The Shot]

Nobody is hating on him. We have watched him play game over game. Great player but weak handle and gets turned in traffic, disappears on the court for stretches, and has not shown the ability to make the big plays when it matters. High talent player, but hardly a dominant presence, especially after the elbow injury. As a GM, I would rate him as a boom or bust prospect, and wouldn’t burn an early pick but there are also slim pickings this year. He might go 6-10 as a result but 15+ seems more logical.

It kind of sounds like you’re hating on him… Weak handle and 15+ in the draft? Is this based on anything other than your personal feelings? Draft analysts have listed his handle as an asset. Unless you’re Kyrie you aren’t dribbling into a triple team and making it back out with the ball. Maybe decision making is what you mean? Also as for 15+ seeming “logical” how can you say this when most mocks have him going before 10?

 

[UconnU]

Nobody is hating on him. We have watched him play game over game. Great player but weak handle and gets turned in traffic, disappears on the court for stretches, and has not shown the ability to make the big plays when it matters. High talent player, but hardly a dominant presence, especially after the elbow injury. As a GM, I would rate him as a boom or bust prospect, and wouldn’t burn an early pick but there are also slim pickings this year. He might go 6-10 as a result but 15+ seems more logical.

Agreed on boom or bust but his handle is excellent for a kid who’s a wiry 6’4. I can honestly see both arguments athletes like him are not supposed to look so natural or I can make a solid argument that you can find similar value deeper down with like Bones Hyland. Will be interesting.

 

[auror]

For the gamblers in here… has anybody seen any odds on Bouknight’s draft position?

+6500 to go 5th... +15000 to go 4th.

 

[UconnU]

+6500 to go 5th... +15000 to go 4th.

I like those bets. One of these GMs in that range is going to be a believer. Very likely a team like the knicks or the hornets move up.

 

[Abe1]

I like those bets. One of these GMs in that range is going to be a believer. Very likely a team like the knicks or the hornets move up.

Knicks can’t get high enough to get him unfortunately

 

[Lefty2one]

Nobody is hating on him. We have watched him play game over game. Great player but weak handle and gets turned in traffic, disappears on the court for stretches, and has not shown the ability to make the big plays when it matters. High talent player, but hardly a dominant presence, especially after the elbow injury. As a GM, I would rate him as a boom or bust prospect, and wouldn’t burn an early pick but there are also slim pickings this year. He might go 6-10 as a result but 15+ seems more logical.

I should just copy and paste my response to this, but every single criticism applies to many other lottery prospects. You can tell the folks who don't look at any other prospects--their strengths and weaknesses--and just throw out an arbitrary range for Bouk. Then again, you said this is draft has "slim pickings", which speaks for itself.

 

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+6500 to go 5th... +15000 to go 4th.

Where are these odds?? All the sites I’ve checked out don’t have him listed for anything yet.

 

[auror]

Where are these odds?? All the sites I’ve checked out don’t have him listed for anything yet.

Draftkings in the NBA draft section (I had to navigate to NBA Finals first and then it was the last tab in that section). He didn't have an over/under for actual slot, just those odds for the specific picks.

 

[Abe1]

Where are these odds?? All the sites I’ve checked out don’t have him listed for anything yet.

BetMGM sports

 

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Draftkings in the NBA draft section (I had to navigate to NBA Finals first and then it was the last tab in that section). He didn't have an over/under for actual slot, just those odds for the specific picks.

See I don't see him. Maybe it's something with my app or something. I can't use Draftkings where I am anyways but I could always place it through a friend if it's available.

BetMGM sports

They have him as -145 odds to go under 10.5. Very good position to be for imo.

 

[BlueDogs]

It kind of sounds like you’re hating on him… Weak handle and 15+ in the draft? Is this based on anything other than your personal feelings? Draft analysts have listed his handle as an asset. Unless you’re Kyrie you aren’t dribbling into a triple team and making it back out with the ball. Maybe decision making is what you mean? Also as for 15+ seeming “logical” how can you say this when most mocks have him going before 10?

I hope he does great. I’m just giving you my rationale. The NBA game is different so maybe he translates very well as analysts think.

 

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I hope he does great. I’m just giving you my rationale. The NBA game is different so maybe he translates very well as analysts think.

What do you like about the other guards games that you'd have ahead of Bouk's?

 

[BlueDogs]

What do you like about the other guards games that you'd have ahead of Bouk's?

Let’s put it this way, the difference between. Suggs and Bouk is the Grand Canyon. The SG pool is weak. Duarte i think might go earlier because he’s got a serious 3-ball and maturity that could make him productive early. Moody might go before Bouk because he is a better play maker, but his shooting stats aren’t great shakes. The question is do SGs go later or do teams spend their picks on weaker SGs.

 

[CL82]

Not this again

Yeah, it is well established that Abe is Bouk's orthopedic surgeon.

 

[BigErnMcCracken]

Let’s put it this way, the difference between. Suggs and Bouk is the Grand Canyon. The SG pool is weak. Duarte i think might go earlier because he’s got a serious 3-ball and maturity that could make him productive early. Moody might go before Bouk because he is a better play maker, but his shooting stats aren’t great shakes. The question is do SGs go later or do teams spend their picks on weaker SGs.

Our in-house scouting department could use some work.

 

[Lefty2one]

Let’s put it this way, the difference between. Suggs and Bouk is the Grand Canyon. The SG pool is weak. Duarte i think might go earlier because he’s got a serious 3-ball and maturity that could make him productive early. Moody might go before Bouk because he is a better play maker, but his shooting stats aren’t great shakes. The question is do SGs go later or do teams spend their picks on weaker SGs.

Moody's biggest asset is his shooting. He's shown limited playmaking, similar to Bouk.

 

[the Q]

Bouk is definitely a below average ball handler for a guard. His playmaking metrics back that up.

but he has elite athleticism and body control and lets him get off and hit shots that others can’t.

he’s a decent shooter. Not great but better than his 3pt% indicates.

hes a better version of lavine coming out. There’s a loaded top of the draft, but every 6 everyone has Major flaws.

his upside is up there with anyone outside he top 5 or so.

 

[the Q]

Moody's biggest asset is his shooting. He's shown limited playmaking, similar to Bouk.

moody is a limited athlete. His size is nice though. Seems like a a 3 and d guy

 

[Lefty2one]

moody is a limited athlete. His size is nice though. Seems like a a 3 and d guy

Agree, I have not been sold on him throughout this process. A nice guy in the 10-12 range but the mocks that have him 6th and/or above Bouk are wild to me.

 

[Waquoit]

Bouk is definitely a below average ball handler for a guard. His playmaking metrics back that up.

How much of those "playmaking metrics" include the 31 games he played with shooting guards that couldn't finish a play or throw the ball in the ocean? What if those guys were even replacement-level shooters? How better would his metrics be then?

 

[auror]

See I don't see him. Maybe it's something with my app or something. I can't use Draftkings where I am anyways but I could always place it through a friend if it's available.

I'm using it on a website, so maybe that's the discrepancy. I put a little taste on both 4 and 5 because those odds seem really great.

 

[ucawn]

Seems like a a 3 and d guy

He played at FSU what more do u expect

 

[rollskies]

He played at FSU what more do u expect

Arkansas

 

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I'm using it on a website, so maybe that's the discrepancy. I put a little taste on both 4 and 5 because those odds seem really great.

Yeah this is what mine is showing me right now unfortunately.

Would love to get in on that and MGM's. Realized for MGM you have to be in the vicinity of their ballpark to place bets. The stranglehold DC Lottery's terrible sports betting app has over the city is torture.

 

[auror]

Yeah this is what mine is showing me right now unfortunately.

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Would love to get in on that and MGM's. Realized for MGM you have to be in the vicinity of their ballpark to place bets. The stranglehold DC Lottery's terrible sports betting app has over the city is torture.

Strange. Almost all of those odds are different from what I have also. My betting state is New Hampshire. I double checked and app version has same odds that I have on website.

 

[auror]

CBS Sports Podcast is doing draft pods this year and just got to Bouknight.

 

[Kitaman]

Here's a breakdown of Bouknight, and some comments about our offensive sets. Didn't realize basketball can be so technical:

 

[imno1]

CBS Sports Podcast is doing draft pods this year and just got to Bouknight.

Did they say he now weighs 205?