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Bouk out indefinitely

UcannUconn said:
Few questions here. If it’s a complete tear he becomes almost undraftable and will likely return right? What’re we looking at like 9 months of rehab after reconstruction? How much does the fact that it’s the non shooting elbow even matter here?
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It’s his left elbow. He will still be drafted high.
 
InKembaITrust said:
Does Bouk now pull a RIP Hamilton, return for his junior year and win a championship?

I'd like to hope so.
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I'm expecting him not to return. This injury would seem to make his decision easier, especially if it won't impact his performance. I see this is a 'wake-up' call.

Just pointing out the risk/reward thingee.
 
brasssbonanzaa said:
That was not the best UConn team ever. 04, 99
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The 2009 team before Dyson went down was playing flawlessly. There was beautiful ball movement, easy shots, great D. It wasn’t a typical Calhoun team that struggled and gutted out games, it was easy. I misspoke in saying it was the best team we’ve had, but it was definitely the prettiest basketball we’ve ever played.
 
Is there anyone other than Goodman who’s saying it will only be 2-4 weeks? Our beat writers are sticking by the indefinite label, staff still seems to be dodgy on the issue. I don’t have any inside knowledge but 2-4 weeks seems to be extremely optimistic, no?
 
Based on DHs history of truth on injuries I'm only guessing but I think we saw Bouks last game as a Husky a couple of weeks ago. The surgery being necessary to assure the kid is going to be at his best for the future is enough for me it's not going to be 2-4 weeks there's no shot. If it was it would be the back end at best and at that point we may be on the outside of the bubble so why even attempt to be out there like Waddel was against Ohio St?
 
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UcannUconn said:
Is there anyone other than Goodman who’s saying it will only be 2-4 weeks? Our beat writers are sticking by the indefinite label, staff still seems to be dodgy on the issue. I don’t have any inside knowledge but 2-4 weeks seems to be extremely optimistic, no?
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Our beat writers don’t know anything. They get very little access. Guys online who don’t even live in CT know more than them. When it comes to recruiting, our beat writers know even less. It seems they actually get most of their info from the boneyard.
 
UcannUconn said:
Is there anyone other than Goodman who’s saying it will only be 2-4 weeks? Our beat writers are sticking by the indefinite label, staff still seems to be dodgy on the issue. I don’t have any inside knowledge but 2-4 weeks seems to be extremely optimistic, no?
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Indefinite: lasting for an unknown or unstated length of time.
"they may face indefinite detention"
synonyms:
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  • not clearly expressed or defined; vague.
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    synonyms:
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There is a reason they are sticking to the term indefinite. Like us, and most everyone else, no one knows at this point until we hear from a doctor or likely James himself.
I don’t know why we always come across as if we are owed anything. I would rather the other team have to guess like we are which can help in game planning.
 
Having only 3 active guards for the foreseeable future is scary. Have to believe coach has at least thought about working Andrew into the rotation. At least in a very limited role.
 
UcannUconn said:
Is there anyone other than Goodman who’s saying it will only be 2-4 weeks? Our beat writers are sticking by the indefinite label, staff still seems to be dodgy on the issue. I don’t have any inside knowledge but 2-4 weeks seems to be extremely optimistic, no?
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Well you can't ever be wrong saying he's out indefinitely.
 
BFieldHusky said:
Goodman got that info from Uconn staff.
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You're right, but the confusion is, was it before or after Hurley knew about the surgery. In my opinion, it I put my detective hat on and put all the pieces of the puzzle together, Dan Hurley suggested that he would miss some time but that it wouldn't be much, then he told us about the specialist, and then we found out about the surgery. I don't see any way that the specialist looks at Bouk's elbow and says, " We need surgery right now!" UNLESS it's an extremely minor procedure. It's not like this was an emergency surgery where he was rushed to the hospital for a major surgery.

So, to recap, my conclusion is that Hurley definitely knew about the surgery and that it was planned going into the specialist visit, OR the specialist determined that after looking at the MRI results that day, that it would be best if he went in quick and cleaned it up, which would constitute a minor surgery.

So, 2-4 weeks checks out. Just my opinion putting all the pieces together that we know of.
 
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tzznandrew said:
That Creighton loss continues to be a b****
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Like I said at the time, that game could easily be the difference between making the Tournament a not, between making a "we're back" statement and not. We can't take anything for granted, as we're seeing here.
 
Kolumbo said:
This is a crappy season for it to be one's last. Rest up. Come back next year. Hang a banner. Put a #2 on the Huskies of Honor.

I am always reminded of Kenyon Martin and Cincy in 2000. That is bad luck.
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Yeah I remember that- cincy was a 1seed -Kmart got hurt - i think they got knocked out in the second round -the committee still gave them a 1 seed for body of work even though he was out for the year. Tuff break. That was the worst one I can think of that comes to mind
 
RayRay said:
You're right, but the confusion is, was it before or after Hurley knew about the surgery. In my opinion, it I put my detective hat on and put all the pieces of the puzzle together, Dan Hurley suggested that he would miss some time but that it wouldn't be much, then he told us about the specialist, and then we found out about the surgery. I don't see any way that the specialist looks at Bouk's elbow and says, " We need surgery right now!" UNLESS it's an extremely minor procedure. It's not like this was an emergency surgery where he was rushed to the hospital for a major surgery.

So, to recap, my conclusion is that Hurley definitely knew about the surgery and that it was planned going into the specialist visit, OR the specialist determined that after looking at the MRI results that day, that it would be best if he went in quick and cleaned it up, which would constitute a minor surgery.

So, 2-4 weeks checks out. Just my opinion putting all the pieces together that we know of.
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I agree with everything in this take. It wasn’t like it was emergency surgery, otherwise no way would you see bouk on the sidelines Monday- the only question I have is if hurley knew about the surgery a couple days prior , why was Bouk a gametime decision late afternoon Monday going into the Depaul game? Gamesmanship by Hurley? Now if you’re telling me bouks elbow was still feeling a little frisky Tuesday morning and they went in to see a specialist and the specialist said “we got to go in there and clean some things up” and Hurley didn’t know about it -that’s a different story. Now if we can just get some solid play from our guards it’s possible we can go 3-1 during this 4 game set -I still think he comes back for Seton Hall February 6- plus a little Covid pause wouldn’t hurt either-( so funny, when We are psyched for games we get Covid cancellations now we wouldn’t mind a couple postponements but watch us play our full schedule straight through) unbelievable how our luck has been the past five years.
 
The biggest loss here isn't Bouk's career (he's going 1st round whenever he goes) or even one season's Tournament outcome in a bizarre year.

It's the same thing that's been a struggle for half a decade: relevance.

It's much easier to sell recruits and the media on a "UConn's back" narrative when we're 15-2, ranked #12, and battling for a Big East title.

We've shown great toughness against mediocre BE opponents, but realistically we're going to end up middle of the pack in conference and out of the Top 25. Hurley's recruiting has been great in spite of that, but there's only so long he can sell the "trajectory" of the program. Injuries or not, we need a year of being ranked and relevant wire to wire to keep the momentum, and it's looking much harder to do that now.
 
in looking at huskies who have played in the nba, Chuck Aleksinas won a championship at Kentucky and then transferred to UConn during his sophomore year. not looking to derail the thread, but what happened there.
 
Tenspro2002 said:
The biggest loss here isn't Bouk's career (he's going 1st round whenever he goes) or even one season's Tournament outcome in a bizarre year.

It's the same thing that's been a struggle for half a decade: relevance.

It's much easier to sell recruits and the media on a "UConn's back" narrative when we're 15-2, ranked #12, and battling for a Big East title.

We've shown great toughness against mediocre BE opponents, but realistically we're going to end up middle of the pack in conference and out of the Top 25. Hurley's recruiting has been great in spite of that, but there's only so long he can sell the "trajectory" of the program. Injuries or not, we need a year of being ranked and relevant wire to wire to keep the momentum, and it's looking much harder to do that now.
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That’s why that creighton loss is going to stick with me for a long long time -I still can’t believe we lost that game- we win that game we are clearly probably ranked right around 10 in the country , undefeated in the Big East and could afford a few losses as while bouks out. I know it was like three weeks ago but that loss was a killer as far as taking us to the complete next level nationally. Now we pretty much have to win 5-6 games in a row without bouk to move up 10 spots in the rankings. you know how the polls go, so hard to break in , but once you establish yourself year in and year out, it’s pretty hard to fall out(Unless you have a full collapse like the dookies LOL)
 
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Giddyup5 said:
Agreed on too little info to speculate.

Highly doubt its UCL. No way time line would be reportedly 2-4 weeks. My guess is loose fragment or OCD of capitulum.

If it’s a loose body then waiting to see if it mechanically engaged and limits range of motion would make sense to me.

But once again—we really have limited info and should respect his privacy.
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OCD of capitulum.....that’s exactly what I was thinking
 
RayRay said:
You're right, but the confusion is, was it before or after Hurley knew about the surgery. In my opinion, it I put my detective hat on and put all the pieces of the puzzle together, Dan Hurley suggested that he would miss some time but that it wouldn't be much, then he told us about the specialist, and then we found out about the surgery. I don't see any way that the specialist looks at Bouk's elbow and says, " We need surgery right now!" UNLESS it's an extremely minor procedure. It's not like this was an emergency surgery where he was rushed to the hospital for a major surgery.

So, to recap, my conclusion is that Hurley definitely knew about the surgery and that it was planned going into the specialist visit, OR the specialist determined that after looking at the MRI results that day, that it would be best if he went in quick and cleaned it up, which would constitute a minor surgery.

So, 2-4 weeks checks out. Just my opinion putting all the pieces together that we know of.
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Good detective work and it makes sense.

Wasn't Hurley concerned at some point the previous week in one of his video calls? Hurley still sticking to the he won't miss "too" much time ... so hopefully Bouk is back in Feb .
 
JB75 said:
Yeah I remember that- cincy was a 1seed -Kmart got hurt - i think they got knocked out in the second round -the committee still gave them a 1 seed for body of work even though he was out for the year. Tuff break. That was the worst one I can think of that comes to mind
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I looked it up. KMart got hurt in the first game of the C-USA tourney and they lost to St. Louis. Cincy ended up a 2 seed in the dance, beat 15 UNC Wilmington, lost to 7 Tulsa

St Louis Saint Louis/Cincinnati Cincinnati Men's College Basketball recap on ESPN
 
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“For every setback, God has a major comeback...”

That's very nice but it's vague as hell. Just tell us what's going on, we can handle it. Well, we can handle it with a meltdown, but we can survive it.
 
Chin Diesel said:
Congrats but you missed the joke. I'm drinking this month. I don't drink last month or next month.


Kinda like the 20th C philosopher Annie said, Tommorow is always a day away.
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I'm told that the word manana doesn't mean tomorrow but more closely means "not today"
 
I vaguely remember a quote from Hurley last week where he basically stated (in choppy language) that it'd either be a short thing or it'd be somewhat extended, but not long-term.

From that, and other tidbits that came out, it seems they knew all along the options were try to heal naturally or go for surgery that would keep him out some time but heal him fully.

With that, I tend to believe the timeline Hurley presumably gave Goodman is reliable. As others said, this surgery almost certainly didn't suddenly become necessary yesterday. They likely knew the approximate timeline all along and that's what he gave Goodman. Goodman was also very emphatic yesterday that it is not a season-ending procedure.

My educated guess is the 2-4 week timeframe is most likely accurate.
 
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