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I don't get why he's putting his academic record out there like that, I hope Melo knew beforeheand because if not I wouldn't really be cool with that if I was in his position. Is that even legal without Melo's consent?
 
UConn9604 said:
Assuming they were all three credit courses, that's a pretty solid 1.800 GPA right there.

I would bet a lot of money that he didn't stick around to finish his second semester, either.
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I'm assuming Carmelo gave Boeheim permission to write that. Otherwise it's illegal. But knowing how publishers work, I have no doubt Carmelo received legal papers signing off o such revelations.
 
aceboon said:
I don't get why he's putting his academic record out there like that, I hope Melo knew beforeheand because if not I wouldn't really be cool with that if I was in his position. Is that even legal without Melo's consent?
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Illegal without Melo's consent. But legal papers are standard in such cases. Publishers cover their butts usually. I have signed off on these myself.
 
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So, back to the original question... to what purpose? What's he trying to prove with this information?
 
There's still a lot of information left out there, but if those grades are accurate, that's a 1.8 GPA. A 2.0 GPA is the cutoff at Syracuse to stay off of academic probation. If Melo was supposed to be on academic probation and played anyway, that could potentially bring program sanctions and take away Syracuse's lone National Championship.

Good thing they still have their Helms Cups.
 
Before people jump the gun too much, most athletes do summer school before their freshmen year, if Melo got even a B in a summer school course he would likely be eligible.
 
caw said:
Before people jump the gun too much, most athletes do summer school before their freshmen year, if Melo got even a B in a summer school course he would likely be eligible.
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Good point. Again, I think we need a little more context about whatever Boeheim was talking about when he mentioned this to understand the context of sharing this decidedly cringe-worthy information about the person who is one of Boeheim's most successful players.
 
Mazhude said:
Good point. Again, I think we need a little more context about whatever Boeheim was talking about when he mentioned this to understand the context of sharing this decidedly cringe-worthy information about the person who is one of Boeheim's most successful players.
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Agree, though either way it's not a good look for Melo or Cuse.
 
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HuskyBballFan said:
What's the deal with that anyway? Is there actually an investigation going on?
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Who the heck knows? But I would venture to guess the NCAA losing its teeth in the P5 Autonomy conversation likely means we never hear a peep about it.
 
Anytime a Syracuse/Carmelo Anthony thread pops up, I don't mind posting this photo:

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It won't happen, but I would take so much pleasure in watching Cuse get stripped of its only title.
 
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gwhuskyfan said:
Jim Chairusmi ‏@jimchair 25m25 minutes ago
Carmelo Anthony got four Cs and a D in his first semester at Syracuse, according to Jim Boeheim in his new book "Bleeding Orange."
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No news here. Summer classes and one semester is the extent of his academic career. This is typical of almost every one and done.

EDIT: I am actually impressed he took a full class load. Not easy for any freshman athlete.
 
caw said:
Agree, though either way it's not a good look for Melo or Cuse.
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Yeah, so why go through the time and trouble to publish it?
 
Stinger92860 said:
No news here. Summer classes and one semester is the extent of his academic career. This is typical of almost every one and done.

EDIT: I am actually impressed he took a full class load. Not easy for any freshman athlete.
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A lot of schools offer an easy one credit freshmen year class. He may very well not have taken a full class load.
 
As someone pointed out before, summer classes + not caring 1st semester allows you to be academically eligible all year and then dart for the NBA Draft without taking (failing essentially) all your 2nd semester courses.

Its the Kentucky Way of Life.
 
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CTBasketball said:
As someone pointed out before, summer classes + not caring 1st semester allows you to be academically eligible all year and then dart for the NBA Draft without taking (failing essentially) all your 2nd semester courses.

Its the Kentucky Way of Life.
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Nowadays, doing this would cost your team an APR point.
 
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tcf15 said:
Just in case.

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That's the fall math 101 course for Syracuse bb players.
Dove said:
Laurie Fine, "I gave him an 'A'!"
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She offered an upper level human sexuality summer course for Syracuse bb players. A prerequisite was an Art in Dark course with her. Total credits I believe were 6 or 9 depending on lab work.

The Cuse players also got credit for taking African Studies online courses that came out of UNC.
This was necessary to gain admittance to the ACC.
It gave cover for the NCAA to say those courses were approved by multiple institutions.
 
Something is seriously up with him. Flipping an absolute shit and getting ejected in the most critical moment of a game, his "off" comments over the last few years.... you have to wonder when the cognition will start to go downhill.
 
Rocktheworld said:
Something is seriously up with him. Flipping an absolute and getting ejected in the most critical moment of a game, his "off" comments over the last few years.... you have to wonder when the cognition will start to go downhill.
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Didn't need any of that to know something was up.

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Everyone needs to go take a gander at the Cuse board. The level of cognitive dissonance is remarkable. For three straight years they have labeled UConn as a cheating program with no respect for academics, and label all of our players as brainless idiots who "never read a book" (boy they really took that Kemba quote out of context and really ran with it). The APR comments have not subsided in the slightest despite that happening almost three years ago now.

Now on their own board, the day this news comes out its a whole 'nother story. Priceless comments like:
  • "Didn't you know that C students run the world. Much has been written about it.
    http://elitedaily.com/news/world/students-run-world/"
  • "What's wrong with a C" (a serious question he wants answered)
  • "Winning a title and still getting Cs? That is impressive in my book."
  • "Grades, schmades. We're talking about pro basketball's pro feeder system, big-time college hoops. When I saw the subject line on this thread, I thought it was about this: http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/knicks/post/_/id/58989/in-fishers-debut-knicks-a-work-in-progress"
  • "Melo's 1.8 GPA translates to career earnings to date in the neighborhood of $154 million, beats my 3.6 GPA earnings every day of the week and twice on Sunday. Apparently I wasted a lot of time studying."
  • "I feel like I need to say this as clearly as possible: WHO CARES"
  • "You don't know about a particular kid's background. For some folks, getting those grades would be great, because it showed they could actually do college level work when they thought that maybe they couldn't. Don't be a hater."

It really goes to show you what mental contradictions and twists a fan base can create for themselves when there simply isn't enough happening on the court over the past half century to keep them entertained.
 
BUHusky10 said:
Everyone needs to go take a gander at the Cuse board. The level of cognitive dissonance is remarkable. For three straight years they have labeled UConn as a cheating program with no respect for academics, and label all of our players as brainless idiots who "never read a book" (boy they really took that Kemba quote out of context and really ran with it). The APR comments have not subsided in the slightest despite that happening almost three years ago now.

Now on their own board, the day this news comes out its a whole 'nother story. Priceless comments like:
  • "Didn't you know that C students run the world. Much has been written about it.
    http://elitedaily.com/news/world/students-run-world/"
  • "What's wrong with a C" (a serious question he wants answered)
  • "Winning a title and still getting Cs? That is impressive in my book."
  • "Grades, schmades. We're talking about pro basketball's pro feeder system, big-time college hoops. When I saw the subject line on this thread, I thought it was about this: http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/knicks/post/_/id/58989/in-fishers-debut-knicks-a-work-in-progress"
  • "Melo's 1.8 GPA translates to career earnings to date in the neighborhood of $154 million, beats my 3.6 GPA earnings every day of the week and twice on Sunday. Apparently I wasted a lot of time studying."
  • "I feel like I need to say this as clearly as possible: WHO CARES"
  • "You don't know about a particular kid's background. For some folks, getting those grades would be great, because it showed they could actually do college level work when they thought that maybe they couldn't. Don't be a hater."

It really goes to show you what mental contradictions and twists a fan base can create for themselves when there simply isn't enough happening on the court over the past half century to keep them entertained.
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I hope some of you boneyarders are gearing-up for a B-52 truth strike over there.
 
John said:
I hope some of you boneyarders are gearing-up for a B-52 truth strike over there.
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That will keep the mods busy. Quick banning trigger fingers over there. First hint of a flame and you're gone.
 
August_West said:
That will keep the mods busy. Quick banning trigger fingers over there. First hint of a flame and you're gone.
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In and out before they know what hit them

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I hate Cuse as much as the next guy, but this is a complete non-story. Assuming he was eligible the whole season - which I'm sure he was, otherwise Boeheim wouldn't have released this information - I don't see how anybody can have a problem with this. I'm not sure if the GPA is representative of his capabilities as a student or not, but there's definitely no shame in struggling a little bit as a first-semester freshman (and we don't know what 'Melo's education level was coming into college). If you're a big time college athlete who goes to class on a fairly regular basis, does his own work, and manages to eek out a C despite a massive workload in and out of the classroom, that's not really something I can make fun of. A lot of big time college basketball players aren't really cut out for higher education (I don't know if 'Melo is one of these guys or not), so I respect guys that try hard despite not being as prepared as normal college students.

Again, I'm all for a Cuse pineda bashing session, but we'd be singing a much different tune if it was one of our players with these grades. KO revealed last week in an article that Terrence struggled academically early in his freshman year. I don't know what the exact grades were, but it shouldn't really matter (again, provided he was eligible) - freshman struggling academically is far from abnormal.
 
champs99and04 said:
I hate Cuse as much as the next guy, but this is a complete non-story. Assuming he was eligible the whole season - which I'm sure he was, otherwise Boeheim wouldn't have released this information - I don't see how anybody can have a problem with this. I'm not sure if the GPA is representative of his capabilities as a student or not, but there's definitely no shame in struggling a little bit as a first-semester freshman (and we don't know what 'Melo's education level was coming into college). If you're a big time college athlete who goes to class on a fairly regular basis, does his own work, and manages to eek out a C despite a massive workload in and out of the classroom, that's not really something I can make fun of. A lot of big time college basketball players aren't really cut out for higher education (I don't know if 'Melo is one of these guys or not), so I respect guys that try hard despite not being as prepared as normal college students.

Again, I'm all for a Cuse pineda bashing session, but we'd be singing a much different tune if it was one of our players with these grades. KO revealed last week in an article that Terrence struggled academically early in his freshman year. I don't know what the exact grades were, but it shouldn't really matter (again, provided he was eligible) - freshman struggling academically is far from abnormal.
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You're not getting it. The whole thing was first mainly: well why is Boeheim doing this? Why does he feel some need to put out how his hero (because what would Cuse and Boeheim be if they didn't rent Melo for 6 months) somehow skated by on a 1.8 GPA? What is the point/motive?

Then it got ridiculous when he followed that up by trying to qualify it by saying he was trying to convey his being impressed by such a performance off the court. Like to Boeheim, that's actually above average, because one isn't "impressed" by something that is average or mediocre. And I don't care who you are; that is a little ridiculous
 
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Rocktheworld said:
You're not getting it. The whole thing was first mainly: well why is Boeheim doing this? Why does he feel some need to put out how his hero (because what would Cuse and Boeheim be if they didn't rent Melo for 6 months) somehow skated by on a 1.8 GPA? What is the point/motive?

Then it got ridiculous when he followed that up by trying to qualify it by saying he was trying to convey his being impressed by such a performance off the court. Like to Boeheim, that's actually above average, because one isn't "impressed" by something that is average or mediocre. And I don't care who you are; that is a little ridiculous
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You're right, maybe I misinterpreted some of the posts. Boehiem looks like a dunce as always, and the fact that he thinks 'Melo's 1.8 GPA is something to marvel at is pretty hysterical. I just don't think this is much out of the ordinary.
 
Rocktheworld said:
You're not getting it. The whole thing was first mainly: well why is Boeheim doing this? Why does he feel some need to put out how his hero (because what would Cuse and Boeheim be if they didn't rent Melo for 6 months) somehow skated by on a 1.8 GPA? What is the point/motive?

Then it got ridiculous when he followed that up by trying to qualify it by saying he was trying to convey his being impressed by such a performance off the court. Like to Boeheim, that's actually above average, because one isn't "impressed" by something that is average or mediocre. And I don't care who you are; that is a little ridiculous
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Or he was impressed because he thought Melo was a complete moron...and you know...Honey Nut Cheerios
 
Potential recruits must love this. "I wonder if Jim will publish a book 10 years after I leave with all my grades?"

and didn't Melo donate a shit ton of money too?

Carmelo-Anthony.jpg
 
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