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Maybe ND and UConn?

Notre Dame president: "We're really happy in the ACC. But I am concerned about continual instability of this conference situation."
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Notre Dame is the arsenic of realignment.
 
junglehusky said:
Meh... he threw a few other ideas around. Not much different from message board speculation. I don't get the vibe that he has sources with insight into the B1G's plans, at least for this post. I don't doubt some people at BC are wondering if they could wrangle a B1G invite, but that's probably true for every university except Texas, Oklahoma, and the SEC & PAC12 schools.
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Is BC even considered a research institution...
 
I think Delaney has ND's attention. It doesn't mean anything will come of it this time around.

What it does is give the SEC and BiG an opportunity to inbreed with a 14-game matchup and a primo secondary Bowl Spot . The PAC-12 backed down: the SEC is going to position themselves for a BiG Network deal. There's ridiculous synergy between those two conferences.

With 14 teams each they can provide all the content needed for their network Time slot over 14 weeks of College Ball. The only downside is the timezones and they can each schedule the PAC-12 teams they want or ND or B12.

I think they can bid their time. I don't see how they avoid 9 games with 14-teams and then add to that content by inbreeding with the SEC. That leaves 2 games -- one against a smaller regional in a non-reciprocating Home Visit and one against a ND or UConn or a Temple.



>> Could the SEC take the plunge with a nine-game schedule in 2012? The league says no. But South Carolina president Harris Pastides says yes.

Pastides told the Carolina student newspaper the Daily Gamecock that the SEC had agreed to play a nine-game conference schedule as soon as next season, with each team playing the full six-team divisional round robin (as mandated by NCAA bylaws) and three cross-divisional games.

Since that would require each SEC team to drop a nonconference opponent from their schedule, Pastides said a plan had been put into place for the conference to reimburse schools for the costs of buying out that nonconference game. That same plan was also indepently reported by the Sporting News' Matt Hayes.
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Fenway Group is rumored to be selling part of NESN/Red Sox. Add in the YES sale and BC UConn and you have the makings of a proposal that might actually get discussed and some numbers run. Fox would simply bury ESPN in NYC and NJ, New York and New England with that package YES, NESN and B1G for $6 a month per subscriber to the carriers.
 
nomar said:
If Delany was interested in BC, UConn, wouldn't that have already been done? He already took UMD & RU -- BC and especiallY UConn would have already signed away their souls to join the B1G if offered. This makes no sense to me. We can't get into the ACC but the B1G might want us? Pipe dream.
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and two weeks ago, you could have said the same thing about Rutgers....
 
Marty Jackson said:
if uconn had a ticket to the Big10 but was being waffled about because of our coach, the first thing Sue and Warde better do is go find a new coach... One with a name everyone has heard of, not just the CT HS coaches.
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No need to be overly dramatic. I didn't like the P hiring, but to pretend that everyone in the football world didn't know who a guy who was a coordinator for the Cowboys, and prior to that the winningnest coach in Big East history, was is frankly dumb.
 
gars44 said:
The ACC should figure out who it wants to be: it doesn't have the guns to compete with the SEC. It should be what it is: a good academic conference, basketball centric, with good football. Until they raise the scholly limits, there will be plenty of good athletes to go around. ACC programs have higher admissions requirements than SEC programs. Student athlete admission requirements bear some relationship to the overall standards: certainly not the exact same, but there is a relationship. There are kids that get into FL that could not get into North Carolina (up to a few years ago, and NC is quickly returning to pre-Butch standards).
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sounds like the ACC knows what it wants to be... It's just that it doesn't pay as much and some of the schools are more interested in the money more than the scholastics...
 
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businesslawyer said:
Actually, no. If the "big 3" leave the ACC, you still have a major conference that will be the #1 hoops league in the land, will have mostly excellent schools, will make sense geographically and will be the 5th best football conference. All that will change is that there will be a larger gap between the ACC and the other conferences in football than there is now. The gap would have to be closed with better on field performance, but you will be left with some programs that have the ability to perform at a higher level than they have been performing recently.
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Keeping the defections to Maryland is key here or the evolution to 4 super conferences will occur and the ACC will be thrown into the pool of also rans that we are in now. They want to make closing the gap a non factor in their play to maximize their control of the money. Many good schools become collateral damage in the process. We all become just chum in the water. Gars44 summed it up pretty well.
 
2Infinity said:
Ummm...Rutgers wanted to get into the ACC before, but couldn't. Now they're in the B1G!

It's always possible that Delaney wanted to weaken the ACC first, before he went after BC, IF that's who he really wanted. But I don't think so either...they don't fit the B1G profile in so many ways. And for all they like to talk about their great academics....don't forget that they are NOT....an AAU member!
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If Delaney wanted BC or Uconn, he could have them at any price... Delaney wants ND. Right now, the barrier is placed at 16. Does that increase at some point? Sure, but right now conventional logic suggests 16 as the upper limit for conference teams. Taking MD was a message to ND... There are now 2 spots left. ND can either side with the ACC and forever say goodbye to the Big10 (at least for a very long time), or decide that this is the last chance to get on the lifeboat.
This could be the final shift that pushes ND into a conference.

ND joining the ACC as a FB member would save that league instantly.
 
The Funster said:
Bringing UConn and BC would make more sense but by doing that you are at 16 and have no room to entice ND. So the plan would be UConn and ND or BC and ND.
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They'll always make room for ND, and that probably applies to every conference.
 
HuskyHawk said:
While this is true, do not underestimate the disdain with which metro Boston holds anything from the south. Boston market would be much more receptive to PSU, Ohio State, Michigan and Wisconsin that any schools from the Carolinas, Georgia or Florida. The cultural mis-match was noted at the time and hasn't changed. That said, I don't see the B1G making this move. I already have the BTN on FioS in metro Boston.
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I've lived in Boston... never noticed the 'disdain' for anything from the south.
What would be the reason?
 
Sorry if already posted - and I apologize to our future conference mates in the B1G if I am letting something out of the bag - but the NE play should be UConn and the Cuse now w/ an open invite to BC as #17 if ND is #18.
 
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Marty Jackson said:
I've lived in Boston... never noticed the 'disdain' for anything from the south.
What would be the reason?
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I hope you're being sarcastic, while there isn't overt hatred for the south, it is certainly not well-liked in Boston. If BC went B1G and joined B1G hockey, I'd cry. And frankly, so would BC hockey fans.
 
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somebody has to convince me that Notre Dame want to be in the Big 10. Location is one thing, but they are a pretty small fish to be competing day in day out with behemoths like Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State...and they have higher academic standards...I know Michigan is a very highly rated school, but when you've got 35,000 undergrads you can always find a place for someone who is borderline but can run or throw. when you have 9000 undergrads, it isn't as easy. In many non-geographic extents, Notre Dame is a good fit in the ACC, especially the ACC as expanded. Games in the Northeast, Florida appeal to the subway alumni, but with programs that have similar academic profiles.
 
freescooter said:
somebody has to convince me that Notre Dame want to be in the Big 10. Location is one thing, but they are a pretty small fish to be competing day in day out with behemoths like Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State...and they have higher academic standards...I know Michigan is a very highly rated school, but when you've got 35,000 undergrads you can always find a place for someone who is borderline but can run or throw. when you have 9000 undergrads, it isn't as easy. In many non-geographic extents, Notre Dame is a good fit in the ACC, especially the ACC as expanded. Games in the Northeast, Florida appeal to the subway alumni, but with programs that have similar academic profiles.
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Because they already voted to join the B10.

This is why they are using the ACC.

They want to maintain independence.

It's all a sham.
 
uconNYC said:
Terrific piece by Wetzel with a nice jab at BC:

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ncaaf-...y-for-cash-with-expansion-move-192826899.html
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I think it's a bad piece.

To downplay the money as though it's not needed is to stick to a sportscentric view of the universe. These are academic institutions subsidizing sports.

One could argue that it's ONLY about the money.

The beauty of this for administrators is that the money gets alumni and trustees and politicians off their back.

Say what? You want a different coach? OK, fine. Whatever.

For the administrators, it just doesn't matter anymore. They cans top bleeding from the academic side. Do whatever you want over there in the ADs office. I don't care!!!!

And this is how it will be. When it comes to the superconferences, the average football record for each school will be .500, just like the NFL.
 
Syracuse and its #82 DMA and 4 fans are an afterthought to the Big 10. NY isn't now, nor will it ever be, captured by any team or group of teams.

BC is at least located near Boston.

This is off in left field, and I think I stated it elsewhere, but the ND/UConn at Fenway thing realky hammered home how much UConn was NE'S team.

This came about right when ND started talking with MD. That kind of genuine excitement about a college game in New England didn't go unnoticed.
 
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upstater said:
Everyone talks about the B10 going after TVs. Very few people talk about the B10 going after talent. The B10 needs to win national championships in football to drive those TV eyeballs.

Maryland, New Jersey, Virginia, North Carolina. These states are important to the B10.
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Between MD and Boston you have roughly 40M people or approx. 15% of the entire US Population.
Taking Rutgers and MD gives you a big chunk... But it leaves NYC and north with the ACC (assuming Uconn goes to ACC)...

Delaney's next move either goes south after UNC and Virginia or north after New England (BC/Uconn)...
He could split the approach and take one of UNC or Virginia matched with one of BC or Uconn.

Assuming ND is not in the equation, what combination provides the most population/TV's? The trick is, you can't base that decision on today's demographics, but the demographics in 10-20 years.
 
brasssbonanzaa said:
I hope you're being sarcastic, while there isn't overt hatred for the south, it is certainly not well-liked in Boston. If BC went B1G and joined B1G hockey, I'd cry. And frankly, so would BC hockey fans.
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I lived in Boston and I don't agree with that at all. Anything outside of 395 doesn't exist. It is all north shore/south shore BS and the south might as well be Foxwoods or Mohegan. There isn't any kind of dislike of the south, it doesn't even appear on their radar.
 
businesslawyer said:
No need to be overly dramatic. I didn't like the P hiring, but to pretend that everyone in the football world didn't know who a guy who was a coordinator for the Cowboys, and prior to that the winningnest coach in Big East history, was is frankly dumb.
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I think you read what I typed and not what I meant...
As a cowboy fan, I am well aware of who P was before coming to Uconn. I think the next coach needs to be a big time coach, in their prime, and not just one approved by the CT HS coaches...
P was a local guy first with NFL experience and prior success in college. We need to focus less on the 'local' aspect next time around.
 
Marty Jackson said:
I think you read what I typed and not what I meant...
As a cowboy fan, I am well aware of who P was before coming to Uconn. I think the next coach needs to be a big time coach, in their prime, and not just one approved by the CT HS coaches...
P was a local guy first with NFL experience and prior success in college. We need to focus less on the 'local' aspect next time around.
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It doesn't need to be a "big time" coach - it just needs to be a coach that can win! Names mean poopy.
 
Robertelamin said:
I lived in Boston and I don't agree with that at all. Anything outside of 395 doesn't exist. It is all north shore/south shore BS and the south might as well be Foxwoods or Mohegan. There isn't any kind of dislike of the south, it doesn't even appear on their radar.
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you must have lived in Boston a long time ago...
395 is barely a highway in MA... It becomes 290 just south of Worcester. I think you might have meant 495 which goes around Boston... But I would say that most locals in Boston would say the line is more like 128...
 
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