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uconngb said:
More than one dopey Yankee fan in this thread has called him a complete phony for reasons that go beyond baseball. THAT is what I was referring to. And not for nothing, but ARod got suspended for a year.no one, and I mean NO ONE on this board can say what, if anything, Ortiz is "guilty" of. The Commissioner himself, who presumably knows more than any of you bozos, cast doubt on the whole farce. As the mighty JC once said, "get some facts and come back and see me".

You guys are quite amusing when you can't admit the guy is one of the most clutch hitters in the history of baseball. It really shows how shallow you are, rooting interests aside. But that's ok, we'll always have the first comeback from 3-0 to hold over the Yankees.
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More of you ascribing false statements to people in this thread. Nobody denied any Yankees used steroids and nobody said Ortiz isn't a clutch hitter, it has actually been the complete opposite. That you feel the need to make up things doesn't speak all that well to your character.
 
upstater said:
Ah quit your constant bellyaching. Jeez. All I heard this week in Buffalo is how boring it must be to be a Patriots fan because they win so much. The jealousy is unbelievable. It is so bad that the owners actually band together to force a handicap on the Patriots. Pathetic. Vince McMahon WWF style.
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Is Paterno still your hero?
 
zyron said:
There were 104 who failed. Article says there were about 10 false positives. Since you are so smart, what is the percentage chance that Ortiz did in fact test positive?
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I know one thing for sure, NONE of us, including you Einstein, knows for sure that he failed a drug test. You're just dumb enough to believe it cuz you read it in a newspaper.
 
The Viking said:
This guy is a self-described "unapologetic, lifelong Yankees fan" and a season ticket holder. Shocking piece of writing from a Yankees fan.
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Let's read Shaunessy's then..
 
superjohn said:
More of you ascribing false statements to people in this thread. Nobody denied any Yankees used steroids and nobody said Ortiz isn't a clutch hitter, it has actually been the complete opposite. That you feel the need to make up things doesn't speak all that well to your character.
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Ok Mr short memory, why don't you list the "host of reasons" that you think Ortiz is a phony and let's see how many of them pertain to baseball. On multiple occasions in this thread you've very strongly suggested that Ortiz is a phony that has all of Boston snow-jobbed. Let's hear all of your reasons that are way above Ortiz using. These are your words, not mine. So back them up or shut up.
 
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uconngb said:
I know one thing for sure, NONE of us, including you Einstein, knows for sure that he failed a drug test. You're just dumb enough to believe it cuz you read it in a newspaper.
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You love throwing insults around about this topic. Since you couldn't figure it out, even with false positives, there is a little over 90% chance that Ortiz in fact tested positive.
 
zyron said:
You love throwing insults around about this topic. Since you couldn't figure it out, even with false positives, there is a little over 90% chance that Ortiz in fact tested positive.
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What did he test positive for? Why wasn't he suspended? Tell me the facts......
 
uconngb said:
What test did he fail? And for what substance?
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What test did Barry Bonds fail and what substance? What test did Clemens fail and what substance? What test did ARod fail and what substance?

It's easy to play your game.
 
uconngb said:
What did he test positive for? Why wasn't he suspended? Tell me the facts.
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Because it was survey testing which the players association and MLB agreed to to see if they needed further testing. No one was subject to suspension.
 
superjohn said:
More of you ascribing false statements to people in this thread. Nobody denied any Yankees used steroids and nobody said Ortiz isn't a clutch hitter, it has actually been the complete opposite. That you feel the need to make up things doesn't speak all that well to your character.
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Don't ever immune my character......I'm not the one that threw out a bunch of veiled claims and then didn't back them up. That was you. You made it seem as if this guy is a cancer. Let's hear why.
 
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uconngb said:
Reggie Jackson cheated too.....he must have, we just haven't heard about it yet. You Yankee fans are a real piece of work. This guy destroyed you for a decade and the best you can do is say he cheated over an alleged drug test failure that has never been disclosed in detail. As a Red Sox fan, I have no problem w Rivera, jeter, Posada.....all great players. I guess you all give Pettite a free pass even though he ADMITTED using. Ortiz was a Yankee killer, plain and simple. We certainly do t need your validation, we'all let the facts speak for themselves: only team in the HISTORY of baseball to come back from a 3-0 deficit, all on the very broad shoulders of Big Papi. Suck it Bronx Boneheads.
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Hilarious and stupid at the same time. If that's all you get out of it you're as naive as the next guy. Suck it Bronx boneheads, wow real creative. He killed us no doubt and Lord knows he scared us every swing. Does that take away from the obvious? Heck Andy did it, so did Texierra and he stopped for his health or something because he couldn't hit like the 50 yr old Dan Hurley you have. Wonder why?

And by the way Reggie may have, heck jeter may have no one is denying whats happened in baseball but the nation. We know plenty of Yankees did - Leyritz, Andy but imagine your 2004 team - lol - Varitek, Kapler, Manny, Papster - it's no different guys. No one said he wasn't great as a Sox player and kicked our ass. He just didn't do it ever until he got there - figure it out Einstein!
 
zyron said:
What test did Barry Bonds fail and what substance? What test did Clemens fail and what substance? What test did ARod fail and what substance?

It's easy to play your game.
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Except we aren't talking about them, we're talking about Ortiz. The only other guys I mentioned were Pettite. (Admitted) and A Fraud (suspended). Not quite the same.....can you see the difference or would you like me to tell it to you slower?
 
The Viking said:
No one should be compared to ARod
He sued MLB the players union and the Yankees team doctor
That's a special kind of Spartacus
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He never called out official scorers though, who's more worried about themselves? C'mon they're both phonies, neither is better than the other. Only in your world are they, or shall I say is he? All because he said this is My Town and you believe him. LOL priceless
 
zyron said:
Because it was survey testing which the players association and MLB agreed to to see if they needed further testing. No one was subject to suspension.
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And what happened when they tested Ortiz further? TWELVE years of clean tests and his numbers just got better and better. Thanks for clarifying that for us.
 
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End this chatter no one is going to get to this love infested group of Papi supporter. We are dirtying up the basketball board with this naive banter.

NEXT
 
zyron said:
Cause we don't pretend that Ortiz never failed a drug test?
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I don't pretend that - he probably was using something then and he certainly might be now.

It's just funny that there are frequently Giants threads on this board, and pretty much only Giants fans seem to post in them. Yet anytime a Pats or Red Sox thread is started, the majority of the posts are from non-Boston fans.

But I guess if your city has two teams in every sport and they all stink, those fans might be a little miserable.
 
UConn990411 said:
It's just funny that there are frequently Giants threads on this board, and pretty much only Giants fans seem to post in them. Yet anytime a Pats or Red Sox thread is started, the majority of the posts are from non-Boston fans.

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Well considering all the Pats threads I have seen on the basketball board were about Deflategate, why wouldn't other fans post in them? The Red Sox threads in the sports thread are all Red Sox fans too.
 
uconngb said:
Don't ever immune my character.I'm not the one that threw out a bunch of veiled claims and then didn't back them up. That was you. You made it seem as if this guy is a cancer. Let's hear why.
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Immune your character, bwahahaha.
 
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zyron said:
Cause we don't pretend that Ortiz never failed a drug test?
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No, because you are like moths to a light whenever a sox fan starts a thread about Papi
He must have done some real damage to the psyche of Yankees Universe.
 
The Viking said:
No, because you are like moths to a light whenever a sox fan starts a thread about Papi
He must have done some real damage to the psyche of Yankees Universe.
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You can talk about Ortiz all you want. The only time I respond is when the Hall of Fame and he should be a first ballot HOF start. If I started a thread that ARod or Andy Pettitte should be in HOF do you think Red Sox fans would chime in?
 
I should have been more clear, my "you" was "you Yankees fans" - one in particular.
 
superjohn said:
Ortiz using is so far down the list of why I think he's a phony. Yes Pettite also used as did a bunch of Yankees. I promise you that Yankee fans aren't jealous of the Red Sox or Ortiz. I've been a huge fan of a bunch of Red Sox players, Ortiz is just not one of them for a host of reasons. Manny was also a cheater but he was a real guy, you knew what you were getting. Ortiz underneath the false image is a huge touchhole who is out for himself.
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Manny was a "real" guy? He pushed down an old man - the travelling secretary - in order to force the Red Sox to just dump him as soon as possible.
When has Ortiz pushed an old man down? What awful things has Ortiz done that doesn't make him a "real man"? He does a lot of charity work for children, he's gets along with a ton of current players outside of the Sox and all of his past and current teammates love him. Jeter is a big fan of his. So is Rivera...don't they say something about the company you keep?
Has he made mistakes and has he lost control of his emotions at times. Hell yes. I get a chuckle though when NY fans try to compare him to A-Rod. A-Rod is loathed by virtually everyone in the game except the young yankees players who he tried to take under his wing or something like that.
 
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