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KingAG said:
I’ll wait for you to admit I was right Mr. @RuffRuff
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They've certainly given up a lot of points to the high major teams they've played. Defense isn't nearly as good as last season.

I'd love to say that @RuffRuff and @superjohn got suckered by St. John's but it's too early for that. The warts we thought they might have are being exposed but they may turn things around. Just too early to make general statements about their season in November.

I wonder how Gary Parrish is feeling right now. He had them #1 in his Top 25 and 1 preseason ranking.
 
HooperScooper said:
They've certainly given up a lot of points to the high major teams they've played. Defense isn't nearly as good as last season.

I'd love to say that @RuffRuff and @superjohn got suckered by St. John's but it's too early for that. The warts we thought they might have are being exposed but they may turn things around. Just too early to make general statements about their season in November.

I wonder how Gary Parrish is feeling right now. He had them #1 in his Top 25 and 1 preseason ranking.
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Yea but that won’t do the conference any good. Who are the top 25 test in conference outside of UConn? I don’t think there is anything they can do until tournament time to make me a believer. At some point you have to collect big time OOC scalps or you’re not legit.
 
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sdglast said:
So far, St. Johns continues to show they are a horrific defensive team. Auburn shooting 56%, and teams are routinely shooting at or near 50% from the field against St. Johns. Last year they were a group of hardnosed guys who gave their all on both ends of the floor. This group is high on talent but you have to start questioning their desire to play D. They don't get that right, they are going to be just an average team all year.
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Exactly. The refs don’t cause the other teams to shoot those numbers. St John’s defense has been terrible all season. You are correct, they look like they don’t care.

I was particularly watching Hopkins and wow, he was so lazy on both sides of the ball the last ten minutes. Taking bad 3 point shots and lazy close outs on the other end. I would have pulled him out of the game.

This is what happens when you just lump a bunch of scorers together . They are all playing selfish on offense and don’t play hard on defense at all.
 
These tournament settings are weird. Some teams are obviously not as bad as they look and some are not a good as they look. I don’t believe in Michigan YET. Or Gonzaga for that matter.
 
SeattleHoop said:
Exactly. The refs don’t cause the other teams to shoot those numbers. St John’s defense has been terrible all season. You are correct, they look like they don’t care.

I was particularly watching Hopkins and wow, he was so lazy on both sides of the ball the last ten minutes. Taking bad 3 point shots and lazy close outs on the other end. I would have pulled him out of the game.

This is what happens when you just lump a bunch of scorers together . They are all playing selfish on offense and don’t play hard on defense at all.
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This is the danger of these frankenstein rosters, pulling together a bunch of kids who have no rapport who are coming together for the $$. That's not necessarily what you would call the "glue" a culture is built on.
 
HooperScooper said:
They've certainly given up a lot of points to the high major teams they've played. Defense isn't nearly as good as last season.

I'd love to say that @RuffRuff and @superjohn got suckered by St. John's but it's too early for that. The warts we thought they might have are being exposed but they may turn things around. Just too early to make general statements about their season in November.

I wonder how Gary Parrish is feeling right now. He had them #1 in his Top 25 and 1 preseason ranking.
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Maybe he meant they should be the "and 1", not #1.
 
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KingAG said:
I really wanted to be wrong. They’ll beat up on the dregs of the conference and probably beat us once and find their way in the top 20. Pitino pulled a Hurley of last year and got too cute with roster construction. You need a lead guard. He’s not a magician
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That's what I've been saying. But @superjohn says he's the greatest coach of all time and would make it work. Pitino still has a few months to try but so far taking all these big name transfers hasn't worked out so well.

I wonder what Pitino is going to say to them in the locker room. Last year he called them children and asked where their toughness was. That seemed to work because they played pretty well after that.
 
KingAG said:
These tournament settings are weird. Some teams are obviously not as bad as they look and some are not a good as they look. I don’t believe in Michigan YET. Or Gonzaga for that matter.
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Michigan is monstrously big. They have natural physical advantages over any team they play. They beat an Auburn team by 30 that just beat StJ by 10 and are now dusting a team in Gonzaga that has been rolling teams this year thus far. I think it's safe to say they are going to be really good. The B10 feels like last year's SEC so far.

The Center for UM is Clingan-esque.
 
RuffRuff said:
This is the danger of these frankenstein rosters, pulling together a bunch of kids who have no rapport who are coming together for the $$. That's not necessarily what you would call the "glue" a culture is built on.
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I was lambasted for the last 2 months and told Pitino the great was the fail safe.
 
HooperScooper said:
That's what I've been saying. But @superjohn says he's the greatest coach of all time and would make it work. Pitino still has a few months to try but so far taking all these big name transfers hasn't worked out so well.

I wonder what Pitino is going to say to them in the locker room. Last year he called them children and asked where their toughness was. That seemed to work because they played pretty well after that.
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The year before that it was they had no lateral quickness. You do wonder when these kids catch onto the shtick and it becomes white noise.
 
RuffRuff said:
Michigan is monstrously big. They have natural physical advantages over any team they play. They beat an Auburn team by 30 that just beat StJ by 10 and are now dusting a team in Gonzaga that has been rolling teams this year thus far. I think it's safe to say they are going to be really good. The B10 feels like last year's SEC so far.
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They’re definitely good. What I mean by sold is a legitimate final 4 contender. I need to see more.

But to be fair I guess that’s true for every team right now in my eyes.

Except UConn….because I’m obviously a homer.
 
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RuffRuff said:
This is the danger of these frankenstein rosters, pulling together a bunch of kids who have no rapport who are coming together for the $$. That's not necessarily what you would call the "glue" a culture is built on.
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Like Tark’s Fresno State squads with a bunch of former McD’s All Americans who were misfits off the court. They all had a lot of individual talent but also had no idea what it meant to play as a team.
 
RuffRuff said:
This is the danger of these frankenstein rosters, pulling together a bunch of kids who have no rapport who are coming together for the $$. That's not necessarily what you would call the "glue" a culture is built on.
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Sometimes rosters just fit and sometimes they don't. Look at Kansas the past couple of years. All those expectations and veterans and they never really looked good. No hype this year other than Peterson who has been out and this group looks like a much better group.
 
St. John’s cannot be trusted against the SEC. I knew this team wasn’t top 5 caliber
 
superjohn said:
Sometimes rosters just fit and sometimes they don't. Look at Kansas the past couple of years. All those expectations and veterans and they never really looked good. No hype this year other than Peterson who has been out and this group looks like a much better group.
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No better example.

I'm amazed and the amount of euro centers in college hoops. We need to get our hands on these guys. Where did UM's come from prior to UCLA? UNC has one, AZ has one, UM has one, Illinois has one. Florida has one from Australia. We need to really start tapping this international 5 man network.
 
RuffRuff said:
No better example.

I'm amazed and the amount of euro centers in college hoops. We need to get our hands on these guys. Where did UM's come from prior to UCLA? UNC has one, AZ has one, UM has one, Illinois has one. Florida has one from Australia. We need to really start tapping this international 5 man network.
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Reibe
 
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REB1094 said:
So St John’s is just gonna commit 20 fouls a game and lose every OOC then come into the Big East, their fouls will be cut 25%, then they beat everyone

Great can’t wait
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And Pitino will be lauded as having turned around another team.
 
KingAG said:
Reibe
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Reibe out of the US HS world. I think these other guys are coming straight from. I wouldn't know the first thing about how you tap that pool. All I know is we should start doing it - doesn't seem the American centers are all that deep annually.
 
RuffRuff said:
Reibe out of the US HS world. I think these other guys are coming straight from. I wouldn't know the first thing about how you tap that pool. All I know is we should start doing it - doesn't seem the American centers are all that deep annually.
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Now a days just tap into the g league. Get you a 24 yo grown man.
 
BFieldHusky said:
Pitino is such a terrible loser. Barely shake hands with the head coach and then just walks off.
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Also seems strangely detached. Where's the fire?

Where was the challenge on the ball that went off the Iowa St guy but called off St Johns? How do you not have someone assigned to watch the TV replays and call the bench to make a challenge?

Maybe he's done and checked out because he sure doesn't seem engaged.
 
RuffRuff said:
No better example.

I'm amazed and the amount of euro centers in college hoops. We need to get our hands on these guys. Where did UM's come from prior to UCLA? UNC has one, AZ has one, UM has one, Illinois has one. Florida has one from Australia. We need to really start tapping this international 5 man network.
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Mara is from Spain. I remember seeing him as like a top 3 future draft pick years ago. He hasn't really developed like they thought he would, or at least he hasn't yet.
 
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