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FriarJ said:
I have the following to offer regarding Cooley. He will never have the fan base he had at PC. Therefore he will never have the home court advantage he had at PC. That homecourt advantage is the reason we had decent seasons under him. You guys can figure out the rest from there.
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The dislike for Ed Cooley on this board, while perhaps justified in certain areas, is not supportable when it comes to his coaching ability. At both Fairfield and PC, his teams were significantly better than prior tenures. In Fairfield’s case, you could make the argument that they’ll never be that good again. He’ll do a good job at Georgetown as well, but he’s starting from ground zero. Patrick Ewing was a disaster. Ed Cooley is an excellent coach. It’s not even debatable.
 
Punkbo said:
The dislike for Ed Cooley on this board, while perhaps justified in certain areas, is not supportable when it comes to his coaching ability. At both Fairfield and PC, his teams were significantly better than prior tenures. In Fairfield’s case, you could make the argument that they’ll never be that good again. He’ll do a good job at Georgetown as well, but he’s starting from ground zero. Patrick Ewing was a disaster. Ed Cooley is an excellent coach. It’s not even debatable.
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I hope Ed sees this and gives you a hug. You might be the only fan he has left
 
Punkbo said:
The dislike for Ed Cooley on this board, while perhaps justified in certain areas, is not supportable when it comes to his coaching ability. At both Fairfield and PC, his teams were significantly better than prior tenures. In Fairfield’s case, you could make the argument that they’ll never be that good again. He’ll do a good job at Georgetown as well, but he’s starting from ground zero. Patrick Ewing was a disaster. Ed Cooley is an excellent coach. It’s not even debatable.
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You make fair points and I agree with most. But you can’t end with “excellent” he’s done little to prove he’s there. But he’s a very good coach for the most part long way to go for excellence though. The Hoyas will test his ability due to the horrible leave of Patrick.
 
lonsharkin51 said:
I remember when Leitao left DePaul after his first stint there, during which they went to the postseason three straight years (two NITs, one NCAA). He seemed to have a decent thing going but thought the UVA pasture would be greener (it wasn't, at least for him). I thought it was a dumb move for Leitao (it was), and for DePaul, Jerry Wainwright immediately sank the ship, going 12-15 in his first year at the helm. They've been worse than irrelevant ever since.
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Depaul has had some bad coaches (Wainwright and Kennedy), but Leitao and Purnell are solid coaches, and they couldn't make it work at Depaul. It is just a tough place to win.
 
mauconnfan said:
Sorry nope. Tons of talent he’s bought even prior to NIL and yet zero to show for it. His teams are out of control and consistently make mental errors game in game out.
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They certainly aren't out of control. I think his teams play a little too tight if anything, but he is a good coach. The team plays hard, aggressive on both ends, and disciplined on offense. I like him.

I don't know why he stays at Memphis, although maybe they have a good NIL situation.
 
Scoe said:
Maybe DePaul and Vermont should just switch conferences. Vermont has been a solid program since 2003 when Tom Brennan was at the helm.
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This is an interesting proposition. State U with just under 12k undergrad in a very small State just under 650k but not losing population. Not sure what the negatives would be although you want to factor in potential media exposure which would be considered small but could get a boost from more exposure. Pretty good soccer team this year as well.
 
Scoe said:
Maybe DePaul and Vermont should just switch conferences. Vermont has been a solid program since 2003 when Tom Brennan was at the helm.
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As a UConn fan living 25 miles from Burlington I think it is a great idea. Good coach at UVM and a great program. There are plans to build a new facility which will seat only 3200. Can't figure that out. They have a pretty rabid fan base and UVM hoops are the talk of the area.
 
superjohn said:
Just when I think this place can't get any crazier than it already is, we have this thread. Yep, the Big East should invite Vermont. They should also invite UNH and Maine.
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Why would we ever invite UNH and Maine in the big east, those programs suck.
 
ucp990411 said:
As a UConn fan living 25 miles from Burlington I think it is a great idea. Good coach at UVM and a great program. There are plans to build a new facility which will seat only 3200. Can't figure that out. They have a pretty rabid fan base and UVM hoops are the talk of the area.
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That would be 1000 more in attendance then any DePaul game, was only thinking of how much better Vermont’s program is then DePaul.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
They certainly aren't out of control. I think his teams play a little too tight if anything, but he is a good coach. The team plays hard, aggressive on both ends, and disciplined on offense. I like him.

I don't know why he stays at Memphis, although maybe they have a good NIL situation.
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They are constantly throwing up whatever shot is available without running anything most of the time. They play hard but they don’t guard for full possessions and to me the furthest thing from disciplined. But that’s just me never impressed by his teams unless they happen to shoot it well. In the AAC they’re just more talented than most.
 
navery12 said:
I hope Ed sees this and gives you a hug. You might be the only fan he has left
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You don't have to be a fan to admit he can coach. Look at Fairfield since he left.
 
Waquoit said:
You don't have to be a fan to admit he can coach. Look at Fairfield since he left.
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He's incredibly overrated and is nowhere near good enough to have earned the salary he's getting. He's a fine coach for Fairfield's level though
 
Scoe said:
Why would we ever invite UNH and Maine in the big east, those programs suck.
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Because we need to add all the New England schools. Vermont, UNH, Maine, UMass, and UMass Lowell would be a good start. I desperately want Qunnipiac, Stonehill, and Merrimack in the conference as well.
 
Punkbo said:
The dislike for Ed Cooley on this board, while perhaps justified in certain areas, is not supportable when it comes to his coaching ability. At both Fairfield and PC, his teams were significantly better than prior tenures. In Fairfield’s case, you could make the argument that they’ll never be that good again. He’ll do a good job at Georgetown as well, but he’s starting from ground zero. Patrick Ewing was a disaster. Ed Cooley is an excellent coach. It’s not even debatable.
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What if Ed Cooley’s “great” record in close games was just due to him being a mediocre coach and all those close wins actually should have been 10+ point MOVs?
 
superjohn said:
Just when I think this place can't get any crazier than it already is, we have this thread. Yep, the Big East should invite Vermont. They should also invite UNH and Maine.
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My thought was tongue in cheek.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
I will never be interested in debating which school between Providence and Georgetown has a better fan base.
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Oh Waylon, you don’t debate anything ever.
 
superjohn said:
Because we need to add all the New England schools. Vermont, UNH, Maine, UMass, and UMass Lowell would be a good start. I desperately want Qunnipiac, Stonehill, and Merrimack in the conference as well.
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No way that happens. Holy Cross would definitely get in before Stonehill
 
Punkbo said:
The dislike for Ed Cooley on this board, while perhaps justified in certain areas, is not supportable when it comes to his coaching ability. At both Fairfield and PC, his teams were significantly better than prior tenures. In Fairfield’s case, you could make the argument that they’ll never be that good again. He’ll do a good job at Georgetown as well, but he’s starting from ground zero. Patrick Ewing was a disaster. Ed Cooley is an excellent coach. It’s not even debatable.
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If you can’t admit Cooley is at the least a great floor-raiser, you are either stupid or biased.
 
Punkbo said:
The dislike for Ed Cooley on this board, while perhaps justified in certain areas, is not supportable when it comes to his coaching ability. At both Fairfield and PC, his teams were significantly better than prior tenures. In Fairfield’s case, you could make the argument that they’ll never be that good again. He’ll do a good job at Georgetown as well, but he’s starting from ground zero. Patrick Ewing was a disaster. Ed Cooley is an excellent coach. It’s not even debatable.
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We were a complete and utter dumpster fire when he arrived. He did a great job and then he pizzed every single bit of all of it away.
 
Cooley is fine. Not great, but good.
The problem is that now, with a top salary, there will be real expectations.
 
Butler/Boise game

Butler is not terrible this season, which is surprising since this team is rebuilt from low-major players.

Boise has a player that looks like one of the Hanson brothers from Slap Shot.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
Butler/Boise game

Butler is not terrible this season, which is surprising since this team is rebuilt from low-major players.

Boise has a player that looks like one of the Hanson brothers from Slap Shot.
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SJU is built from mid-major players. Georgetown is from majors. Not sure about you but I think it’s SJU, Butler, then Georgetown. The opposite of the level the players came from.
 
superjohn said:
Just when I think this place can't get any crazier than it already is, we have this thread. Yep, the Big East should invite Vermont. They should also invite UNH and Maine.
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Yeah, that's the ticket. Putting the Yankee Conference back together..........reminds me of a movie:
 
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