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DefenseBB said:
Ok, so Memphis commits a hard foul, the women who commits the foul then starts and continues to yap at the SJU player and then the teams come together where two different SJU and MU players yap at each other. To me, the first SJU player who was fouled showed great restraint from the MU player. Congrats to SJU for the win.
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It wasn’t that hard of a foul. At the end of a game when teams try to stop the clock, the fouls are all intentional and sometimes look like hard ones because the player with the ball is just standing there waiting to be fouled.

The Memphis coaches were dumb. They got pitched for going on to the court and barking at the refs. What did they expect would happen? Kudos to Coach Tartamella for keeping his staff on the sideline and calling his players away from the Memphis kids
 
I happen to be watching the Villanova vs Baylor game today and can't believe the one sided calls I am seeing. This game with 2 minutes left in the 3rd is 55-54 Baylor in spite of every one of Villanova's players that had played in the first half had at least 2 fouls called on them! Hard to win with your star shooting 3-13 and unbalanced calls. Calls much better in second half so far.

I also watched the SH vs Georgia game earlier which SH won by 7 and held the ball for the last few seconds of the game without any guarding from Georgia. If the announcers were right that was not a good idea. Both sides wound up 2-1 for the tournament but Georgia should have been declared the winner by ONE total point!
 
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Near the end of the Villanova vs Baylor game the officials proved they are terrible and possibly biased. With about 3:25 left of a very close game a Villanova player made a basket that appeared to be a 3 but was called a 2. They went to the monitor. The TV coverage showed 3 different views of the shot - 2 were very hard to tell but the 3rd was clearly a 3 bu several inches. They did not change the call as the videos was not clear! The middle one shown saw as clearly a 3 as is possible to see and was even zoomed in to be sure. I've rarely seen anything worse. BTW I really have no skin in this except I hate seeing a Big East team screwed. As it turns out Villanova lost 74-70 so overall it was irrelevant but still bad.
 
Zinethar said:
I happen to be watching the Villanova vs Baylor game today and can't believe the one sided calls I am seeing. This game with 2 minutes left in the 3rd is 55-54 Baylor in spite of every one of Villanova's players that had played in the first half had at least 2 fouls called on them! Hard to win with your star shooting 3-13 and unbalanced calls. Calls much better in second half so far.

I also watched the SH vs Georgia game earlier which SH won by 7 and held the ball for the last few seconds of the game without any guarding from Georgia. If the announcers were right that was not a good idea. Both sides wound up 2-1 for the tournament but Georgia should have been declared the winner by ONE total point!
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Georgia left without shaking hands. Just a few coaches stayed.
 
All I saw was two teams with no self control and no respect for their schools or coaching staffs. Too bad.
 
Nova lost because they couldn't contain the drive on defense and they missed critical shots down the stretch. They did not lose because of the officiating. It's not unusual to see a disparity in foul totals between a jump-shooting team and a dribble-drive team.

I did think the 3-pointer earlier in 4Q should have been awarded on review. But that doesn't explain why Nova shot 0 for 6 in the last minute of the game. Nor does it explain why they committed two needless non-shooting fouls with the game tied, which put Baylor in the bonus and handed Bickle the go-ahead free throws.

Nova lost because they didn't play quite well enough when it mattered. It certainly wasn't decided by the officiating. In a way, it's encouraging they were still almost able to win with Siegrist shooting cold and so many players in foul trouble.
 
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I agree that Villanova played poorly at the end and deserved to lose. My complaint was that there is no way a review could have possibly not given a 3 on this shot. (TV screen capture taken just before she left the floor).
 
And, how bout a shout out to the Butler Bulldogs who are 4-2. Sure, they played Sister Mary’s school for Wayward Girls but they beat them.
 
I still can't get over the fact that Seton Hall beat Georgia. That is totally awesome!!! Park-Lane and Sydney Cooks dominated.
 
HuskyNan said:
The Memphis coaches were dumb. They got pitched for going on to the court and barking at the refs.
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Then they doubled down talking about how they were disrespected, but they didn’t care if anyone didn’t know their story. Really bad luck for Memphis and especially for their head coach. In watching the video it seems like pretty much every escalation was from Memphis.
 
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Bone Dog said:
I still can't get over the fact that Seton Hall beat Georgia. That is totally awesome!!! Park-Lane and Sydney Cooks dominated.
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Amazing game for SH after having some tough losses early

I did not see the game but I am guessing the GA game plan was something like

Give a forehand shiver to any player driving into the lane.

Problem was Lane was too small to see. ;)
 
I know it's still early in season but so far the Big East has been doing an unbelievable job against P5 conferences. Took a peek at WarrenNolan.com at their RPI Conference rankings and as of this morning, the Big East sitting at the #2 spot. I realize a loss here and there will change these rankings but I'm encouraged so far. Last I checked WarrenNolan the Big East has been ranked #5 with SEC #6.

Note: don't look at very last conference on this image. ;)

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Wow. American dead last. But RPI leader makes no sense??
 
The RPI is an old metric that the NCAAT Committee is supposed to be migrated from. I use Massey which also is not perfect but at least makes sense vs. RPI. The PAC-12 has all 12 of its teams in the top 70 of 361 teams, Next is the SEC with 12 of 14, then ACC 12/15, Big12 9/10, Big10 10/14 and then BigEast with 6 of 11 schools in the top 70. Of interest on the screen shot is the games already played SoS (strength of schedule) and SSF (strength of all games played and to be played). The mighty SEC has the only the 5th best of all the conference schedules. Hmm, interesting for the mighty SEC....:rolleyes:

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DefenseBB said:
The RPI is an old metric that the NCAAT Committee is supposed to be migrated from. I use Massey which also is not perfect but at least makes sense vs. RPI. The PAC-12 has all 12 of its teams in the top 70 of 361 teams, Next is the SEC with 12 of 14, then ACC 12/15, Big12 9/10, Big10 10/14 and then BigEast with 6 of 11 schools in the top 70. Of interest on the screen shot is the games already played SoS (strength of schedule) and SSF (strength of all games played and to be played). The mighty SEC has the only the 5th best of all the conference schedules. Hmm, interesting for the mighty SEC....:rolleyes:

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You do have to take Massey early season stuff lightly as it contains significant data from last year. 12 games in seems to be the point where current season takes over. With some of the terrible P5 schedules this early in the season the results are meaningless - Washington schools are a prime example with meaningless wins and then losses to BYU (#103) and Santa Clara (#126)
 
Big East with four teams in the AP 25:
3. Uconn
13. Creighton
24. Marquette
25. Villanova

I think that might be Creighton's highest ranking ever?

(And as an added bonus ... TN gets dropped out. :cool:)
(Shocking - SEC has only SC and LSU in the rankings.)
 
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UcMiami said:
Big East with four teams in the AP 25:
3. Uconn
13. Creighton
24. Marquette
25. Villanova

I think that might be Creighton's highest ranking ever?

(And as an added bonus ... TN gets dropped out. :cool:)
(Shocking - SEC has only SC and LSU in the rankings.)
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And LSU at #11 is way too high considering the highest rated team that they have played so far in the Massey ratings is UAB, and they are rated #144 as of today's rating, the lowest is MS Valley St at #355. They will not play a team currently rated in the Top 50 until their first SEC game against Arkansas.
 
Just saw the story under 'power rankings' at ESPN, and Georgia team had had 5 players ejected in the VCU game, which was just prior to the game with Seton Hall. Story says that VCU shot eight technical free throws. Also Georgia guard Chapman was ejected for kicking a VCU player and suspended for game with Seton Hall. Georgia seems to have a problem with self-control. Some of this may have contributed to their loss to Seton Hall.
 
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