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It makes all the $ense in the world.It'd be a mistake to expand just for the sake of it. None of this brainstorm list make a lot of sense.
It makes all the $ense in the world.It'd be a mistake to expand just for the sake of it. None of this brainstorm list make a lot of sense.
You're talking UMass.
I'd put Loyola Chicago in the tier 2-3 although Depaul would probably nix it. Loyola is on of the biggest Catholic schools in the country and has success recently.I see the answer to this in three tiers.
Tier 1: Kansas, ND, Gonzaga would be a slam dunk, take them whatever it takes to make them work. However, as discussed: Zags are too far, Kansas has their football to think about (really they need to just drop it), and ND is tied tight with ACC. So unless a miracle happens, I wouldn't want to lose the round robin.
Tier 2: That being said, if they HAD to take new team(s), I could see Dayton and VCU both stepping up to the next level. Dayton already fills the stands really well and VCU has a bit of history as well. But does FOX really see the benefit? If they do, I'd be ok-ish with it.
Tier 3: SLU and UMass... ummm.... uh... do we need it to close the deal with FOX? Well I guess you gotta do what you gotta do, but I wouldn't be happy about it. Maybe someone thinks they'd bring something after the move? There's a lot of risk in this, and I don't think odds are good of either actually bringing value.
I don't see any other possibilities.
Omg. Yuck, yuck, yuck and yuckiest!Holy Cross
St Bonaventure
St Joe’s
Fordham
The Big East is not saturated in MASS, we have no presence there at all which is a shame, and I remember the 90's very well, there was UMASS Mania in that state just like Husky Mania in CT. They have a large fanbase it's just kind of dormant right now, add UMASS to the Big East and they will wake up. UMASS to the Big East would also be a kick in the teeth to BC which is nice.I don’t think UMass is a great addition given the Big East’s saturation in the Northeast. They don’t really even bring an audience. UMass is kind of loathed in Eastern Mass where the eyeballs are.
Your first mistake, never say "never, ever" in conference realignment. Kansas may not have a choice, I don't see the Big 12 existing down the road.Kansas: will never, ever join the Big East. Insane to even think of it. The only league they'd leave for is the B1G.
Eh, maybe. That was a unique UMass team. It took a very crooked coach, no academic or behavioral standards and paying the best player in CT to go there in order to catch that lightning in a bottle. That stuff would never fly there now.The Big East is not saturated in MASS, we have no presence there at all which is a shame, and I remember the 90's very well, there was UMASS Mania in that state just like Husky Mania in CT. They have a large fanbase it's just kind of dormant right now, add UMASS to the Big East and they will wake up. UMASS to the Big East would also be a kick in the teeth to BC which is nice.
I believe a team can be a member in a conference for a single sport if their main conference doesn't offer it. That's why it happens in football and done Olympic sports primarily, and why the Big Ten teams had to play in their hockey conference.Why couldn't Gonzaga be a basketball only? This is a basketball league that should do everything in its power to put the best basketball product on TV. Gonzaga isn't SDSU, they will survive post Few, even if they aren't ranked top 5 every single year. Dayton and VCU are interesting from strictly a program strength perspective.
I couldn't care less about the double round robin. Strength and perception of the league is paramount.Keep it at 11. The round robin, playing every team twice a year is perfect
I think we should stay with 20 games. However, going to 12 teams by adding Gonzaga while keeping the 20 game schedule could result in regularly get 7 bids as opposed to probably 5 currently.I couldn't care less about the double round robin. Strength and perception of the league is paramount.
Get 12 teams with Gonzaga, reduce the number of league games to 18 (only 9 teams have to travel to Spokane per year). 20 league games is a bit excessive. Play every team once and most teams twice -- set up traditional rivalries that play twice every year, plus rotate others through.
Sure if we can get Gonzaga then that's fine and 12 teams improves the conference. Same would apply to Kansas. But there's 0 chance of either of those teams joining the Big East for all of the reasons already mentioned in this thread.I couldn't care less about the double round robin. Strength and perception of the league is paramount.
Get 12 teams with Gonzaga, reduce the number of league games to 18 (only 9 teams have to travel to Spokane per year). 20 league games is a bit excessive. Play every team once and most teams twice -- set up traditional rivalries that play twice every year, plus rotate others through.
This is the only plausible suggestion. It would be a good suggestion if the BE has leverage. It doesn't. If anything this announcement lets the schools we would want to play against know the BE is in a financial bind and thus can set terms favorable to themselves.
This is not good news for the BE or for UConn. Viewership matters and I would consider the option of uniting all the conferences minus the P5 and proactively leveraging a tv deal with a major network with this group. The sum of all that viewership will be greater than the individual components. A value will have to be given to how it's divided based on some combination of viewership, success, sports programs and so forth. I doubt it could be achieved but otherwise the clock is ticking for most of these conferences.
Sure if we can get Gonzaga then that's fine and 12 teams improves the conference. Same would apply to Kansas. But there's 0 chance of either of those teams joining the Big East for all of the reasons already mentioned in this thread.
Depaul?A 12 member conference means two six school divisions. Considering the proximity of UConn, PC, St John's, SH, Nova and Georgetown to each other and their proximity to the remainder of the conference, that will be one of th he two divisions. A twelfth member will be no further east than slightly east of Xavier but more likely somewhere that bridges Creighton to the remaining western half of the BE. That school also needs to have a men's basketball profile that would help the conference as a whole (be in ttb e upper half of the conference in terms of identity).
Not sure there are any realistic candidates (I don't believe Kansas is a realistic candidate).
What about DePaul?Depaul?
Just saying they're farther west than X. But, yes they aren't relavant.What about DePaul?