Big East Coaching Hot Seat/Departure Ranking

[RuffRuff]

Average attendance under Patrick Ewing. None were 1,200.
2017-18: 7,531
2018-19: 7,212
2019-20: 7,931
2021-22: 5,525
2022-23: 5,442

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If Cooley put a winning product (call it a team that was top 15) on the floor, would it resurrect the fanbase quickly?

 

[NJHusky]

Yeah it is. Holloway has been frustrated by the NIL for years. Not sure why he is still there TBH.

Imagine what he could do with Repole's money...but Repole won't fire Pitino yet...maybe after another bad year, but not yet

 

[Waquoit]

Imagine what he could do with Repole's money...but Repole won't fire Pitino yet...maybe after another bad year, but not yet

I dunno, especially if he doesn't make the dance. He's not building anything. He's spending a ton of dough and it seems like hiring a new bunch of mercenaries each year doesn't lead to team cohesion. They went for shock and awe and got cheap heat without the corresponding W's. Time to try a new approach if he doesn't make a tourney run.

 

[NJHusky]

I dunno, especially if he doesn't make the dance. He's not building anything. He's spending a ton of dough and it seems like hiring a new bunch of mercenaries each year doesn't lead to team cohesion. They went for shock and awe and got cheap heat without the corresponding W's. Time to try a new approach if he doesn't make a tourney run.

you might be right...but Repole was big on Pitino...he was pissed Pitino wasn't the choice when they hired Anderson, so I doubt he gives up this early...especially with Ricks BE run last year

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Imagine what he could do with Repole's money...but Repole won't fire Pitino yet...maybe after another bad year, but not yet

I think that the current model for an athletic department is very, very different than it was pre House and NIL, and the motivations are all over the place. The LSU firing of Brian Kelly, where he basically got himself fired in midseason by telling the athletic department to buzz off, then they tried to make the firing for cause after they had already fired him, then they just regular fired him, shows that there is a lot of "who the fudge knows?" with the athletic department decisions.

 

[Waquoit]

you might be right...but Repole was big on Pitino...he was pissed Pitino wasn't the choice when they hired Anderson, so I doubt he gives up this early...especially with Ricks BE run last year

Even last year ended poorly. Pitino benched his leading scorer in the NCAA's and they both traded shots after the game. That's not a sign of a healthy program.

 

[NJHusky]

Even last year ended poorly. Pitino benched his leading scorer in the NCAA's and they both traded shots after the game. That's not a sign of a healthy program.

Forgot about that.

 

[FriarJ]

Average attendance under Patrick Ewing. None were 1,200.
2017-18: 7,531
2018-19: 7,212
2019-20: 7,931
2021-22: 5,525
2022-23: 5,442

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Georgetown Basketball History Project

www.hoyabasketball.com

We know that Georgetown counts ticket sold where most schools like PC count turnstile. There have been many games where Georgetown is saying there were 5,000 in attendance when there couldn't be more that 1,000 people in attendance. Nothing must drive Cooley and his massive ego crazier than to know he has not been able to change that. He thinks he was the reason PC has such a rabid fan base.

 

[REB1094]

We know that Georgetown counts ticket sold where most schools like PC count turnstile. There have been many games where Georgetown is saying there were 5,000 in attendance when there couldn't be more that 1,000 people in attendance. Nothing must drive Cooley and his massive ego crazier than to know he has not been able to change that. He thinks he was the reason PC has such a rabid fan base.

He must have missed the most important part of getting fans to show up: win games

 

[nelsonmuntz]

That was an absolutely brutal second half by English as his team probably played their best game of the season and still blew a 12 point lead with 7:30 left against a Top 5 team.

 

[John]

That was an absolutely brutal second half by English as his team probably played their best game of the season and still blew a 12 point lead with 7:30 left against a Top 5 team.

Coaching malpractice

 

[Waquoit]

That was an absolutely brutal second half by English as his team probably played their best game of the season and still blew a 12 point lead with 7:30 left against a Top 5 team.

He was up 11 at the 3 minute mark.

 

[Da_Aisijimo_Gou]

Coaching malpractice

Encouraged, and fully supported!

 

[FightOnCT]

 

[nelsonmuntz]

This post wins the day.

 

[Leebo]

To be fair, it's largely Ewing's fault that Cooley had to start from that much of a hole.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

To be fair, it's largely Ewing's fault that Cooley had to start from that much of a hole.

Teams turnover their roster every year now with the Transfer Portal. Blaming the last guy is not a good excuse anymore.

 

[boog204]

To be fair, it's largely Ewing's fault that Cooley had to start from that much of a hole.

Not to be a Cooley apologist, but he inherited a team that had pretty much no roster. He took that team and gained two wins over the previous year, and then ten more the year after with his first full recruiting class. This year looks like a wash, though.

Teams turnover their roster every year now with the Transfer Portal. Blaming the last guy is not a good excuse anymore.

It's timing, though. Cooley was hired in late March, which is when the portal opened. We all know March is not the first time coaches are in touch with portalers, so he was way behind from the start.

 

[Icehawk]

Average attendance under Patrick Ewing. None were 1,200.
2017-18: 7,531
2018-19: 7,212
2019-20: 7,931
2021-22: 5,525
2022-23: 5,442

Georgetown Basketball History Project

Georgetown Basketball History Project

www.hoyabasketball.com

Actual attendance during Covid was 1,200ish. Hell, use your eyes - empty arenas.

 

[Waquoit]

Teams turnover their roster every year now with the Transfer Portal. Blaming the last guy is not a good excuse anymore.

Especially since it's his 3rd year. You have to show results by now for that paycheck.

 

[DFW HOYA]

Actual attendance during Covid was 1,200ish. Hell, use your eyes - empty arenas.

Georgetown's home games during COVID were closed to the public.

2020-2021 Georgetown University Men's Basketball (PDF) - Georgetown University Athletics

2020-2021 Georgetown University Men's Basketball (PDF)

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[Fishy]

Cooley is failing at Georgetown. He’s had enough time to show progress and it’s just not happening. And it’s not happening for Kim English and Providence.

The winner in this situation appears to be 16-1 George Mason.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Cooley is failing at Georgetown. He’s had enough time to show progress and it’s just not happening. And it’s not happening for Kim English and Providence.

The winner in this situation appears to be 16-1 George Mason.

Georgetown has to be one of the most disappointing teams relative to roster in the entire country. They are 1-7. They still have Depaul and Marquette at home, but neither team looks terrible right now, they are just normal bad. Georgetown has two against Providence, but who knows that you get with that team? Georgetown may be able to upset Creighton or Butler at home. The remaining Xavier game is on the road.

Playing Kim English is typically good for any coach's job security, but their game at Providence this weekend may be kind of a must win for Cooley. It is followed by Depaul, then after that, the schedule gets quite a bit tougher. If he drops the next 2, does Georgetown consider pulling the plug on him?

 

[RuffRuff]

Cooley is failing at Georgetown. He’s had enough time to show progress and it’s just not happening. And it’s not happening for Kim English and Providence.

The winner in this situation appears to be 16-1 George Mason.

No doubt, year 3, they have backing and he's underperforming with a decent roster. There are no Devan Carter's walking in. He's walking up to post game presser's claiming there are worse things in the world than losing. He's a BS artist that becomes white noise.

 

[Alum1620]

Georgetown has to be one of the most disappointing teams relative to roster in the entire country. They are 1-7. They still have Depaul and Marquette at home, but neither team looks terrible right now, they are just normal bad. Georgetown has two against Providence, but who knows that you get with that team? Georgetown may be able to upset Creighton or Butler at home. The remaining Xavier game is on the road.

Playing Kim English is typically good for any coach's job security, but their game at Providence this weekend may be kind of a must win for Cooley. It is followed by Depaul, then after that, the schedule gets quite a bit tougher. If he drops the next 2, does Georgetown consider pulling the plug on him?

They have already lost to DePaul earlier in the month and didn’t beat them all of last year so I would take away from the easier game grouping for Georgetown

 

[gsmooth]

No doubt, year 3, they have backing and he's underperforming with a decent roster. There are no Devan Carter's walking in. He's walking up to post game presser's claiming there are worse things in the world than losing. He's a BS artist that becomes white noise.

Are you talking about Kim English or Ed Cooley?

 

[RuffRuff]

Are you talking about Kim English or Ed Cooley?

Cooley

 

[JayPak]

I have to differ on a few counts.

McDermott’s season has been derailed by injuries, and he’s having to work harder than normal. The golf course might be calling to him at this point. Put him higher, in 4th.

Shaka is very much on the hot seat. I could see a firing during portal season, if he refuses to use it again. Put him higher, 3rd behind English and Cooley.

As for Shaheen, he can’t coach offense so it’s hard to see him being pushed by most P4’s. Maybe he’d fit at Houston but they’ve already got a coach in waiting. Put him lower on the list, 7th behind Rick Pitino (5th) and Matta (6th).

 

[Waquoit]

I can’t see Shaka being on the hot seat after one disappointing season. He’ll get a new job as soon as he wants it. Meanwhile, who they gonna get that’s better?

 

[John]

I can’t see Shaka being on the hot seat after one disappointing season. He’ll get a new job as soon as he wants it. Meanwhile, who they gonna get that’s better?

Didn’t they just renew him too? = big buyout