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SCHuskiedad said:
RIP Rose Bowl?
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No. I don't believe so. The Rose Bowl (the granddaddy of the all) will continue to operate and be a MAJOR bowl as always.

There is a Rose Bowl executive committee that makes that decision. I know it used to be the Big Ten Champion against the Pac-12 champion. Now with the demise of the PAC 12, no doubt the Rose Bowl committee will figure out new selection protocols unless the bowl champion series committee does it for them.

The Rose Bowl will continue to be a bowl schools want to play in. The two teams go to Disneyland or Universal Studio, eat a king's feast at Lawry's Prime Rib Steak House in Hollywood, and they get to enjoy the 72 degrees and sunny days that is our typical weather for that time of year here in Southern California. It doesn't snow in Southern California (in the basin). It does in the nearby mountains. There are lots of things to do here around the holidays.

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Big 12 approves additions of Utah, Arizona State, bringing the league to 16 teams​

The Big 12 is rapidly getting bigger, as the school's presidents and chancellors voted unanimously to formally add Utah and Arizona State on Friday night. They were introduced along with Arizona, which was approved Thursday. The additions bumped the league's membership to 16 teams beginning in the 2024-25 academic year.

Colorado head coach Deion Sanders on the PAC 12 schools jumping ship: "Don't get mad.....everybody's chasing the bag." :cool:

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Big 12 approves additions of Utah, Arizona State, bringing league to 16 teams

The Big 12 bumped its membership to 16 teams beginning in 2024-25 after unanimously voting in Utah and Arizona State and welcoming Arizona.
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SCHuskiedad said:
RIP Rose Bowl?
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SCHuskiedad said:
RIP Rose Bowl?
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There is some speculation that the BIG would split into two 10 team conferences,East and West. The winners of each conference would go to the championship playoffs while the runner up in the East and West would go to the Rose Bowl. That would keep the Rose Bowl alive and give it some resemblance to its former format. I read this somewhere but can’t find the article.
 
broooce said:
Hope that Brett Yormark keeps going and can convince his member schools to add schools to get to 18, just like the Big Ten.

Here's an article (sorry, behind a pay wall)
www.newstimes.com

Conference realignment is changing by the minute. Here's where UConn fits in.

With an opportunity to join the Big 12 fading, UConn might be left out of the latest phase of conference realignment. Other opportunities may arise.
www.newstimes.com www.newstimes.com

In a nutshell, Yormark is very high on UConn and believes that given time in a Power 5 conference its football and basketball programs will an asset in the Big 12's next media contract in 2030. Further it says that Yormark is dealing with people who lack appreciation and awareness of the Northeast region and who dismiss UConn for its past (meaning football) rather than being embraced for its potential.

So while I've preferred the Big Ten as the best fit for UConn - we'd immediately enhance the basketball and Olympic sports leagues in the conference - as well as academic peers, it's clear they have no interest in us. The ACC is locked up until GOR expire in 2036 and there's no fit with the SEC.

As long as Brett Yormark is the Big 12 commissioner I think our future will be best in the hands of someone who really believes in UConn, now and in the future.
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Love your optimism. Me? I’m still waiting for the Pats to move to Hartford. Governor Rowland said it was a done deal. Head bang
 
Carnac said:
There's still a breath of life in the body. :oops:
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Made me think of the funny quote from the movie Dumb and Dumber. "So there's a chance?". More seriously I could see how basketball only additions like Gonzaga and Uconn could work for the Big12, but it seems unrealistic to me to then expect a full share from them. I wonder how much of a reduced share would still be an upgrade or go decision for Uconn since the money would be the main reason for leaving.
 
From what I'm reading, it seems the PAC-12 (as we knew it) will be laid to rest soon. My question...or does it make sense, would forming a super basketball conference between the ACC and BigEast be a reasonable way to offset the blow from these football only super conferences aligments? It will not be football type money but have to believe a super bassketball conference between the ACC/BigEast would have leverage when it comes to broadcasting rights and the money that goes along with it.
 
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UCONN needs to start thinking outside of the box. The easy route is to align your team with broadcasting money and a football conference. Despite the money, it also comes with restrictions. Uconn is the Basketball Capital of The World. Market that globally and build an independent revenue model. If individual players can make millions from NIL, then a program should be able to generate substantially more. Hire a marketing firm and give it a shot.
 
mbr33ct said:
From what I'm reading, it seems the PAC-12 (as we knew it) will be laid to rest soon. My question...or does it make sense, would forming a super basketball conference between the ACC and BigEast be a reasonable way to offset the blow from these football only super conferences aligments? It will not be football type money but have to believe a super bassketball conference between the ACC/BigEast would have leverage when it comes to broadcasting rights and the money that goes along with it.
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Maybe teams like Duke that have good basketball and sucky football would be for it, not sure about the rest of the ACC. Question for you. What would happen to Duke football? How valuable would Duke’s football be on its own? They are not Notre Dame or Stanford. More like UConn and you see what a mess we’re in.
 
oldhusky said:
Made me think of the funny quote from the movie Dumb and Dumber. "So there's a chance?". More seriously I could see how basketball only additions like Gonzaga and Uconn could work for the Big12, but it seems unrealistic to me to then expect a full share from them. I wonder how much of a reduced share would still be an upgrade or go decision for Uconn since the money would be the main reason for leaving.
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Guys. Here’s one writer’s take on where college conference sports is going and the smart conference in this scenario. It’s a bit of a read, but I agree with it. MSN
 
FearThePups said:
Maybe teams like Duke that have good basketball and sucky football would be for it, not sure about the rest of the ACC. Question for you. What would happen to Duke football? How valuable would Duke’s football be on its own? They are not Notre Dame or Stanford. More like UConn and you see what a mess we’re in.
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The football program at Duke has improved by leaps and bounds.
 
FearThePups said:
Maybe teams like Duke that have good basketball and sucky football would be for it, not sure about the rest of the ACC. Question for you. What would happen to Duke football? How valuable would Duke’s football be on its own? They are not Notre Dame or Stanford. More like UConn and you see what a mess we’re in.
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Duke football does not suck. It was ranked a couple years ago, as a matter of fact and finished #26 in the final season power rankings in 2022

AP top 25 rankings notes: Georgia leads the way with 1,575 points, followed by TCU at 1,484. Michigan earned 1,438 votes and Ohio State 1,394.

Others receiving votes​

Duke 49, UTSA 45, Air Force 40, Boise State 38, Minnesota 35, Texas Tech 19, North Carolina 8, North Carolina State 6, Iowa 4, Louisville 3, Purdue 3, Maryland 2, Marshall 2, Cincinnati 1, Illinois 1

 
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The ACC is not going to join the Big East and become a basketball only driven conference. They are looking to do the opposite and join the super conference party that is currently going on. The only reason the haven't already done it is thar they are locked into large exit fees in their contract.

If FSU's lawyers can figure out a loophole to get out of the ACC they'll bolt to the SEC or Big 10 and others will follow. It will be a mass exodus a la the PAC 12.

UConn's only hope at this point is if ACC teams can't figure a way out of their current contract and they decide to expand and invite UConn.
 
FearThePups said:
Guys. Here’s one writer’s take on where college conference sports is going and the smart conference in this scenario. It’s a bit of a read, but I agree with it. MSN
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Good read, except the one school in the "smart conference" with much more than a "minimal" interest in football, has a huge athletic department deficit. I wonder who that is???
 
HuskyNan said:
Duke football does not suck. It was ranked a couple years ago, as a matter of fact and finished #26 in the final season power rankings

AP top 25 rankings notes: Georgia leads the way with 1,575 points, followed by TCU at 1,484. Michigan earned 1,438 votes and Ohio State 1,394.

Others receiving votes​

Duke 49, UTSA 45, Air Force 40, Boise State 38, Minnesota 35, Texas Tech 19, North Carolina 8, North Carolina State 6, Iowa 4, Louisville 3, Purdue 3, Maryland 2, Marshall 2, Cincinnati 1, Illinois 1

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So a 26th rank one year once upon time makes them a good team?
 
veryolddog said:
Why is it that UConn is always left as a bridesmaid and never a bride?
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Because they don’t take football as seriously as other schools. If they really want to rise to the top 10 nationally, they must make a long-term commitment financially to do so. It can be done.

Remember when South Carolina’s football program rose out of the ashes like the Phoenix? They hired Steve Spurrier (the old ball coach) to run it. He won 6 SEC championships and won the national championship in 1996.

Before he got there, SC football was a second-tier program that was seldom recognized nationally. That changed once Spurrier arrived. They became a ranked program that was featured (TV) nationally every week.

If you want the results, you must be willing to make the investment. It starts with hiring the right coach. SC administrators, alums, and fans don’t think more of their school than UConn administrators, alums and fans do.........do they?
 
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FearThePups said:
Maybe teams like Duke that have good basketball and sucky football would be for it, not sure about the rest of the ACC. Question for you. What would happen to Duke football? How valuable would Duke’s football be on its own? They are not Notre Dame or Stanford. More like UConn and you see what a mess we’re in.
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6 bowl games, 6 winning records in the past 10 years.
 
fireford said:
The ACC is not going to join the Big East and become a basketball only driven conference. They are looking to do the opposite and join the super conference party that is currently going on. The only reason the haven't already done it is thar they are locked into large exit fees in their contract.

If FSU's lawyers can figure out a loophole to get out of the ACC they'll bolt to the SEC or Big 10 and others will follow. It will be a mass exodus a la the PAC 12.

UConn's only hope at this point is if ACC teams can't figure a way out of their current contract and they decide to expand and invite UConn.
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I don’t see the ACC as anyone’s only hope. Ultimately, Clemson, FSU, Notre Dame and a few others will decide to pay the exit fee and head for greener pastures leaving the remaining schools in the lurch. Accepting an invite at that point would be equivalent to leaving a lifeboat to board the Titanic while it is sinking.
Better off to remain in the Big East and be independent in football rather than joining a conference that will soon be picked clean. The ACC squandered a number of previous opportunities to provide us with an invite.
 
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Carnac said:
Because they don’t take football as seriously as other schools. If they really want to rise to the top 10 nationally, they must make a long-term commitment financially to do so. It can be done.

Remember when South Carolina’s football program rose out of the ashes like the Phoenix? They hired Steve Spurrier (the old ball coach) to run it. He won 6 SEC championships and won the national championship in 1996.

Before he got there, SC football was a second-tier program that was seldom recognized nationally. That changed once Spurrier arrived. They became a ranked program that was featured (TV) nationally every week.

If you want the results, you must be willing to make the investment. It starts with hiring the right coach. SC administrators, alums, and fans don’t think more of their school than UConn administrators, alums and fans do.........do they?
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So...bottom line: if you want to get 30 million a year from being in power conference, you should have spent a lot of money in buildiing your program, your name, and a history of success to be proud of.

I am not from CT. I graduated from UConn in 1964. I came back to CT in the late 70's to early 80's stationed in Groton, As a UConn graduate, I followed UConn sports. The State of Connecticut did not fund sports and the University in general and kept cutting that budget throught out the years. Even when they addressed the issue of a stadium, it was still half the effort and should have built a modern 70,000 seat stadium. CT is a poor State and losing its tax base. Maybe it will get its priorities straight with respect to the University.

Frankly, all of these missed opportunities is disappointing.
 
veryolddog said:
So...bottom line: if you want to get 30 million a year from being in power conference, you should have spent a lot of money in buildiing your program, your name, and a history of success to be proud of.

I am not from CT. I graduated from UConn in 1964. I came back to CT in the late 70's to early 80's stationed in Groton, As a UConn graduate, I followed UConn sports. The State of Connecticut did not fund sports and the University in general and kept cutting that budget throught out the years. Even when they addressed the issue of a stadium, it was still half the effort and should have built a modern 70,000 seat stadium. CT is a poor State and losing its tax base. Maybe it will get its priorities straight with respect to the University.

Frankly, all of these missed opportunities is disappointing.
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The state has invested billions at the health center campus in Farmington & rebuilding the Storrs campus.
The state has been more than generous funding UConn, many would say too generous.
They've invested in a new Hartford campus too after gutting the West Hartford campus.
And there's probably more state investment in other campuses that I don't know about.
The UConn football team didn't deserve the 70K NFL stadium that was only proposed to lure the Patriots to Hartford.
Residents have left CT in droves & still are due to high state & local taxes.
 
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veryolddog said:
So...bottom line: if you want to get 30 million a year from being in power conference, you should have spent a lot of money in buildiing your program, your name, and a history of success to be proud of.

I am not from CT. I graduated from UConn in 1964. I came back to CT in the late 70's to early 80's stationed in Groton, As a UConn graduate, I followed UConn sports. The State of Connecticut did not fund sports and the University in general and kept cutting that budget throught out the years. Even when they addressed the issue of a stadium, it was still half the effort and should have built a modern 70,000 seat stadium. CT is a poor State and losing its tax base. Maybe it will get its priorities straight with respect to the University.

Frankly, all of these missed opportunities is disappointing.
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There is a proven model for building a successful college football program. Administrators can choose to follow it or not. You’re familiar with the definition of insanity. You reap what you sow. Others' perception of you does not have to become your reality. UConn’s football program is not respected or coveted by any P5 conference. That can change starting now.

The powers that be at UConn know and have known for decades what’s holding them back from an invitation to a P5 conference. Would Oklahoma, Texas, Ohio St, or USC be the powerhouses they are today if they had followed the path UConn chose?

I’ve been a USC Trojan fan since 1964. I’m good. While I’m a UConn WBB fan, I have no preference or concern about what conference the Huskies are in. They have proven they can win championships regardless of conference affiliation.

I want another championship for Geno and his team this year. I believe that this team is the best he’s had since Breanna Stewart graduated in 2016. That was 7 years ago. It’s time.
 
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I would still like seeing UConn being part of the ACC as mentioned before. There still are East Coast teams that can be added if anyone departs. The PAC and MWC will combine with whatever is left. The BIG 12 is now a super conference just like the BIG10. The SEC is not going to hold back and watch these other two leapfrog them. This is an opportunity for the ACC to expand into the fourth super conference.
 
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