BE Presidents: Hold your horses!

[Da_Aisijimo_Gou]

First, these quotes are for the 90% who are not dying over this the way we are. And I get that. But they'll make the 10% who know better purely < suicidal (edit)>.

Win win, a few less Boneyarders, long term, schizophrenic lingering quitters and petulant whiny newbies alike.

 

[Dooley]

We need cash. Whatever happens, we need cash. Cash if motherf***ing king right now.

Agree. Sue and Warde better be playing the hardest of hardball for every red cent out of this C7 and Conference name split.

 

[d1reality]

We need cash. Whatever happens, we need cash. Cash if motherf***ing king right now.

Maybe the C7 can give you a loan.

 

[d1reality]

Blauds has been right a lot more than he has been wrong. Can't such that often in the world of realignment.

I like the BE Presidents taking their time. Fox wants to announce the league on Tuesday. Hold out for as much as you can. The C7 are one the ones in a huge rush to get out. Tell them to give up all of their NCAA credits, exit fee money, and pay a reduced exit free per school to get out by July and have the name. Take it or leave it. With the pressure Fox is putting on them, they will pay it.

Some people were saying this before...besides getting invited to a new conference, this is the most important stage for UCONN. If they get enough money here, they can survive in this league for 3-5 years. If they aren't in the ACC or B!G by then, they are screwed. But lets be honest...odds greatly favor them being somewhere else in 3-5 years.

Let them have the name for free, if they pay for it all the better.

We need to lose the Big East stigma, it is weighing us down - should have given it up earlier, remarketed and maybe got some TV rights that cover more than cab fair to Philly.

 

[Chief00]

Terrible. I thought you were joking until I read it in the Courant.

Suzy needs to realize that just because she says something and repeats it - doesn't make it true outside of her little World - which seems smaller every day. Her pronouncements/and e-mails are starting to border on delusional. Whoever that new media guy is for $250k - should be sent packing or quit due to Suzy doing what Suzy wants to do.

 

[NEforceUConn]

I have no idea how this will play out, of course, but it is nice to see it not go down so easy. You can get kicked in the shin only so many times before you fight back.

We have been getting kicked a bit higher than the shin.

 

[Chief00]

Frankly, desperation makes strange partners........and that's what it will take to get us (with our current leadership) into a major conference. We need to be a footnote in a bigger chain of events. The Big 10 taking 2 or more ACC schools or a combination of the SEC and the Big 10 adding schools.
Ironically, if and when we join the ACC, it will be more like the former Big East - Cuse, Pitt, BC, Ville, VT, The U, ND and Cincy. The only likely legacy ACC schools to continue the ACC would be Wake, Clemson, Duke and NCST.

 

[junglehusky]

We need cash. Whatever happens, we need cash. Cash if motherf***ing king right now.

 

[ctchamps]

Suzy needs to realize that just because she says something and repeats it - doesn't make it true outside of her little World - which seems smaller every day. Her pronouncements/and e-mails are starting to border on delusional. Whoever that new media guy is for $250k - should be sent packing or quit due to Suzy doing what Suzy wants to do.

I wonder if I'm the only one who recognizes the advice you are recommending to President Herbst is the very same offense you have been accused of engaging on the Boneyard chiefy. I just love the double standards some of us apply and the arrogance that goes with it.

 

[Chief00]

My predictions and many of them were roundly criticized at the time before being proven true:

• We would be punished severely by the NCAA, while understood now at the time this was a minority view
• We would win all NCAA Tournament games in 2011
• In August 2011 I predicted Drummond would announce enrolling at UConn for Sept Classes
• KO would be a good coach
• Big man coaching would be hindered by Clyde leaving
• Criticized JD's game prep - the 9 Turnover USF game his senior season was a signature validation of that and of course zero post season wins
• I know you will say I overrated Jamal Coombs-McDaniel - I still think the guy could have helped us this year - and his rebound against PITT and the heads-up timeout was a huge play in the 2011 run, which was overshadowed by Kemba greatness

 

[Fishy]

Bulls***, chief.

You need to start living in the real world - you're a garden-variety crackpot and none of your s*** ever comes to pass.

Jamal Coombs-McDaniel was busted for drug possession on his way out the door and between knee issues and a suspension, he didn't do a thing for Hofstra. And his 'game prep' makes Jerome Dyson look like Jimmy Chitwood.

Just STFU already. You're duck*ing weird.

 

[Chief00]

Bulls***, chief.

You need to start living in the real world - you're a garden-variety crackpot and none of your s*** ever comes to pass.

Jamal Coombs-McDaniel was busted for drug possession on his way out the door and between knee issues and a suspension, he didn't do a thing for Hofstra. And his 'game prep' makes Jerome Dyson look like Jimmy Chitwood.

Just STFU already. You're duck*ing weird.

And you pass as the Moderator? I noticed you did not address my other predictions.
Jamal Coombs-McDaniel's off court drug issues are a matter of public record.

 

[UConn Dan]

OT. What's wrong with tap a talk? Anyone else having problems?

 

[zls44]

OT. What's wrong with tap a talk? Anyone else having problems?

Same here. We're looking into it.

 

[zls44]

Tapatalk fixed now thanks to the esteemed Temery

 

[tzznandrew]

You don't get to tout things like "I predicted they would in all NCAA tournament games." So did almost every Husky fan.
You don't get to tout things like "I predicted Kevin Ollie would be a good coach." Huh? That means you have inside information?
Nobody debated that Clyde Vaughan was a good big man coach. It borders on Ahab-like insanity to suggest we could and should have kept someone on the public's payroll who was arrested for soliciting a prostitute. As if that wouldn't have been easily used against us in recruiting on top of all the other issues.
They were not punished severely for Nate Miles, which is what you had suggested would happen. You were proven wrong, and then, after that suggested that the APR BS was somehow related, and that it validated you're point of view.
You overesteemed Jamal Coombs-McDaniel and borderline committed libel against Dyson.

Also, going around and calling the president of the university Suzy is offensive (no offense to suzyq, who obviously goes by that). It suggests you are somehow superior to her in ways that more than a little suggestive of sexism....coupled with you criticizing her of speaking up against men. Doesn't make you look good, chief, not at all.

 

[UConn Dan]

Tapatalk fixed now thanks to the esteemed Temery

Thanks all

 

[ctchamps]

You don't get to tout things like "I predicted they would in all NCAA tournament games." So did almost every Husky fan.
You don't get to tout things like "I predicted Kevin Ollie would be a good coach." Huh? That means you have inside information?
Nobody debated that Clyde Vaughan was a good big man coach. It borders on Ahab-like insanity to suggest we could and should have kept someone on the public's payroll who was arrested for soliciting a prostitute. As if that wouldn't have been easily used against us in recruiting on top of all the other issues.
They were not punished severely for Nate Miles, which is what you had suggested would happen. You were proven wrong, and then, after that suggested that the APR BS was somehow related, and that it validated you're point of view.
You overesteemed Jamal Coombs-McDaniel and borderline committed libel against Dyson.

Also, going around and calling the president of the university Suzy is offensive (no offense to suzyq, who obviously goes by that). It suggests you are somehow superior to her in ways that more than a little suggestive of sexism....coupled with you criticizing her of speaking up against men. Doesn't make you look good, chief, not at all.

But if he says it over and over again it must be so at least for him which is why I just loved his comment which I quote: "Suzy needs to realize that just because she says something and repeats it - doesn't make it true outside of her little World - which seems smaller every day." My goodness does that quote apply to him except in his case the circle is a small part of his brain which the rest of his brain are not privy to.

 

[UConn990411]

My predictions and many of them were roundly criticized at the time before being proven true

I don't think I've ever seen anyone else toot his or her horn so much on a message board.

It's embarrassing to read.

 

[Adios]

I hope it's from the onio.

Great fit for this new league? You're kidding me.

Associated with strong research universities? Huh? Memphis, ECU, Houston, USF UCF? Is she playing a joke on us?

Houston is actually big on research. UCF was created hoping to create staff for NASA.

 

[The Viking]

Hold on a second. We aren't just going to give someone what they want? What, did someone finally kick Aresco out of the room and let some big boys do some real "negotiating"?

 

[housekeys]

In a five sentence statement Herbst uses the word patience twice. It seems every time she has referenced our conference situation since Lousiville was picked by the ACC she has used the word patience.
She is asking us to be patient. My guess, or my hope, is that she knows there is someplace better for us.

I agree. My guess is that it may be because of the probation that we are not already in conference, but this may not be true at all. Still, I believe our destination is already chosen and their is something holding it up. Could be some legal issue or some other detail, I don't know. I would never have guessed we are B1G material, but after Rutgers was chosen, there is no doubt that is our future home. We were up for grabs, when Syracuse and Pitt were chosen by the ACC and we were left out. Again, I hope that is what will happen.

 

[UConnSportsGuy]

And you pass as the Moderator? I noticed you did not address my other predictions.

Probably because we have addressed it about 100,000 time already. I guess if you keep repeating your version for years, enough people will forget about it or there will be enough new people who weren't around for your original prediction and just believe what you are saying. But all of us who have been around here for a few years know your MO. For the life of me though, I cannot determine if you really believe what you are saying or if you know you are wrong, but just want to continue your schtick. Unfortunately, I think it is the first option there...which is very sad.

 

[uconnbill]

My predictions and many of them were roundly criticized at the time before being proven true:

• We would be punished severely by the NCAA, while understood now at the time this was a minority view
• We would win all NCAA Tournament games in 2011
• In August 2011 I predicted Drummond would announce enrolling at UConn for Sept Classes
• KO would be a good coach
• Big man coaching would be hindered by Clyde leaving
• Criticized JD's game prep - the 9 Turnover USF game his senior season was a signature validation of that and of course zero post season wins
• I know you will say I overrated Jamal Coombs-McDaniel - I still think the guy could have helped us this year - and his rebound against PITT and the heads-up timeout was a huge play in the 2011 run, which was overshadowed by Kemba greatness

NO offense but I stated before anyone that Andre Would be at UConn.

 

[Hoophound]

NO offense but I stated before anyone that Andre Would be at UConn.

Bragger.

 

[Marty Jackson]

Frankly, desperation makes strange partners........and that's what it will take to get us (with our current leadership) into a major conference. We need to be a footnote in a bigger chain of events. The Big 10 taking 2 or more ACC schools or a combination of the SEC and the Big 10 adding schools.
Ironically, if and when we join the ACC, it will be more like the former Big East - Cuse, Pitt, BC, Ville, VT, The U, ND and Cincy. The only likely legacy ACC schools to continue the ACC would be Wake, Clemson, Duke and NCST.

Frankly, desperation makes strange partners........and that's what it will take to get us (with our current leadership) into a major conference. We need to be a footnote in a bigger chain of events. The Big 10 taking 2 or more ACC schools or a combination of the SEC and the Big 10 adding schools.
Ironically, if and when we join the ACC, it will be more like the former Big East - Cuse, Pitt, BC, Ville, VT, The U, ND and Cincy. The only likely legacy ACC schools to continue the ACC would be Wake, Clemson, Duke and NCST.

i would take that

 

[The Viking]

I agree. My guess is that it may be because of the probation that we are not already in conference, but this may not be true at all.

i can't imagine this is the case with the ACC. They took Louisville which is a nothing academically and they have two of the sleaziest Athletic departments in the country in UNC and the U.

 

[housekeys]

i can't imagine this is the case with the ACC. They took Louisville which is a nothing academically and they have two of the sleaziest Athletic departments in the country in UNC and the U.

I realize the "hands-off UConn, because they are on probation" is a stretch. But the issue is not with the incumbents (Ohio St in the B1G or UNC and Miami in the ACC). They are not up for vote. UConn was. Louisville was necessary as a replacement for Maryland. If my wild-ass-guess is right, UConn was off the table for some reason, and the ACC had little to choose from. Just guessing, but the more I think about what transpired, at that time, the more convinced I am that something like this happened. I hope 1/2 of my story is right and we end up in the ACC instead. I don't care. Just get out and get in.

 

[upstater]

I realize the "hands-off UConn, because they are on probation" is a stretch. But the issue is not with the incumbents (Ohio St in the B1G or UNC and Miami in the ACC). They are not up for vote. UConn was. Louisville was necessary as a replacement for Maryland. If my wild-ass-guess is right, UConn was off the table for some reason, and the ACC had little to choose from. Just guessing, but the more I think about what transpired, at that time, the more convinced I am that something like this happened. I hope 1/2 of my story is right and we end up in the ACC instead. I don't care. Just get out and get in.

But UConn was not off the table at all. We know this because of the internal fight that took place and became very public. North Carolina was in UConn's corner, and though that might not be because they like UConn, we were definitely a proxy for UNC's wishes, and when UNC lost the battle, they made a public (and pretty embarrassing) statement.

When people have been quoted about UConn and the ACC over the years, the general take has been that Tobacco Road has favored Uconn. We have the quote about Duke and UNC's presidents being flabbergasted by BC's reasons for blackballing (because the Tobacco Road schools have 4 schools within an hour of one another), we read about the UNC President making statements about UConn and academics, we also read about the Florida State President of the Board who says in public that Tobacco Road ripped off the football schools by selling their tier 3 rights to ESPN while keeping the bball rights for themselves.

 

[housekeys]

But UConn was not off the table at all. We know this because of the internal fight that took place and became very public. North Carolina was in UConn's corner, and though that might not be because they like UConn, we were definitely a proxy for UNC's wishes, and when UNC lost the battle, they made a public (and pretty embarrassing) statement.

When people have been quoted about UConn and the ACC over the years, the general take has been that Tobacco Road has favored Uconn. We have the quote about Duke and UNC's presidents being flabbergasted by BC's reasons for blackballing (because the Tobacco Road schools have 4 schools within an hour of one another), we read about the UNC President making statements about UConn and academics, we also read about the Florida State President of the Board who says in public that Tobacco Road ripped off the football schools by selling their tier 3 rights to ESPN while keeping the bball rights for themselves.

The time frame I am talking about is very small. Correct my memory if I am wrong, but I believe the announcement of Maryland and Rutgers happened about Nov 20, and the announcement of Louisville to the ACC, about Nov 28. Aside from second hand quotes and speculation, I do not recall any evidence of an "internal fight" during this specific time frame, concerning UConn. I do not question your description about Tobacco Road and UConn prior to Nov 20 and a few days after. In fact, you are supporting my thesis in that UConn was the prime target after Nov 20. But what I am implying is that after the first couple of days of courting UConn, the ACC was told by us we are heading to the B1G, in due time (not sure why the delay). This last statement of mine is a guess and just a theory. If it is true, that would explain practically all the bizarre events that follow up to this point, including the sudden (as I remember it) change in the ACC decision making process, that basically focused only on Louisville. The cold shoulder treatment from the BE commissioner and the C7. Nothing that was published was directly from the ACC. It was just speculation about the internal disagreement on UConn. These articles made sense at the time because there was no other way to explain that UConn was no longer on the table.

I do not want to give false hope to anyone, but just trying to make sense out of it. This is the only way, as a UConn fan, that things can be explained. I am trying to replay the timeline and view articles ( the majority of which were just speculation, mind you) that either support or dismiss what I am saying. My greatest hope is based on this one fact: I know that UConn is not a worthless commodity.