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nelsonmuntz said:
I doubt this story is true, but I do think the top academic schools will eventually pull out of big time athletics. Northwestern, Stanford, Vanderbilt, Rice and Duke will all eventually decide they don't want to be minor league football programs. They don't need the money, and they will decide at some point that they don't want the baggage.

I don't know what BCU will do when those dominoes start falling, because they aren't really a super-elite school academically.
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It depends what’s asked of them. Right now, it’s free money for them. TV money, money from alums, and poaching some kids from similar academic colleagues because they have big time sports. NIL isn’t really a big deal. Their alums will either want to pay, or not. As long as the conferences don’t mandate NIL/salary minimums or something that could taint their academics, I don’t see why they’d walk away. And I don’t think any will be kicked out even if they do nothing with NIL and perform terribly.
 
CTBasketball said:
Imagine a world where BC begs to come back to the Big East…
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pj said:
With USC and UCLA, I don't think the B10 is looking to cut travel miles. They're not adding weak additions like Syracuse or BC. UConn is marginal but the only school north of Virginia/Kentucky/Missouri/Kansas/Colorado that makes sense, save Notre Dame.
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You missed my entire point regarding a school having travel mates not a conference cutting miles. BTW, none of the schools you mentioned would pair w/Uconn to enter the B10.
 
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Chuck said:
It depends what’s asked of them. Right now, it’s free money for them. TV money, money from alums, and poaching some kids from similar academic colleagues because they have big time sports. NIL isn’t really a big deal. Their alums will either want to pay, or not. As long as the conferences don’t mandate NIL/salary minimums or something that could taint their academics, I don’t see why they’d walk away. And I don’t think any will be kicked out even if they do nothing with NIL and perform terribly.
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I think some of the elite schools will not want to affiliate with institutions that have renegade programs of "student athletes" that basically have no affiliation with the underlying schools beyond wearing a uniform with the university logo on it. Northwestern, et al, will never be willing to do what it takes to truly compete with an Ohio State or Alabama in football or basketball, and with so much money swirling around, they might be able to make decent money breaking off and doing their own thing.
 
I would dearly love for BCU to throw in the towel and leave the ACC. Moving to the Big East would be a great opportunity. A great opportunity for UConn to blackball them and let them twist in the wind.
 
FourRings said:
I know fiscally and for FB it makes no sense but F the ACC and it’s members. Couldn’t be happier with where we’re at right now.
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Correct me if I’m wrong but I believe Pitt, Cuse, and BC are losing more money now on athletics than they were prior to joining the ACC. Running a high major athletics department takes a lot of work and it’s insanely expensive.
 
UcannUconn said:
Correct me if I’m wrong but I believe Pitt, Cuse, and BC are losing more money now on athletics than they were prior to joining the ACC. Running a high major athletics department takes a lot of work and it’s insanely expensive.
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I can't comment on Cuse or BC, but prior to ACC, Pitt was considering dropping some sports. Now they're not. And their women's sports, which are basically all money-losers are doing quite well. Football posts a decent profit, men's hoops a small windfall - between the two about $8 mill in the black. Their accounting for all athletics shows they broke even, as most non-profits do.
 
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Could BC be making noise, because they want a travel partner in the ACC? (UConn)
 
UconnFanDC said:
If Uconn joins B10, beside Rutgers and Maryland I think they'd need 4th team to join like a BC or Syracuse to cut these miles. If ACC Syracuse, BC and Uconn wouldn't be enough unless you can get maybe WV who's struggling with miles as well to join. Just a thought that having atleast 4 schools in closer proximity to minimize cost may work.
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A 4th Eastern Team, if UConn joins, to pair with Maryland and Rutgers? Why wouldn’t they just invite Penn State?
 
WeAreUCONN said:
I think at some point in the near future a P5 conference will see the value in adding UConn to their basketball league and also see value in their football program. BIG 10 will have to add teams at some point and UCONN should interest them.
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We won’t interest them.
UconnFanDC said:
If Uconn joins B10, beside Rutgers and Maryland I think they'd need 4th team to join like a BC or Syracuse to cut these miles. If ACC Syracuse, BC and Uconn wouldn't be enough unless you can get maybe WV who's struggling with miles as well to join. Just a thought that having atleast 4 schools in closer proximity to minimize cost may work.
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UConn is never joining the Big Ten.

Anyone else have any bad ideas that need smothering?
 
UcannUconn said:
Correct me if I’m wrong but I believe Pitt, Cuse, and BC are losing more money now on athletics than they were prior to joining the ACC. Running a high major athletics department takes a lot of work and it’s insanely expensive.
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Now try running a high major athletics department on the much smaller Big East share.
 
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Fishy said:
We won’t interest them.


UConn is never joining the Big Ten.

Anyone else have any bad ideas that need smothering?
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Besides Michigan and Ohio State, the BIG is sorta trash everywhere. UConn immediately makes them better in basketball and probably in football too cause some of those teams are embarrassing.
 
geordi said:
I would dearly love for BCU to throw in the towel and leave the ACC. Moving to the Big East would be a great opportunity. A great opportunity for UConn to blackball them and let them twist in the wind.
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Institutionally, BC is a better fit for the Big East than we are. That being said, we're a better fit for the ACC than they ever were.
 
B1G is more prestigious, academics, better money etc. But I don't think we'd ever compete athletically except for hockey. It just doesn't fit our recruiting footprint in hoops or football. I think we could thrive in the ACC and our fans and alums would be more likely to travel or even retire to an ACC metro or city to stay in touch with alumni and attend games. It's just a better fit. And yes we would go it's not even a close call. Should have been there already but now the pieces are in place to make a pretty strong case.
 
WeAreUCONN said:
Besides Michigan and Ohio State, the BIG is sorta trash everywhere. UConn immediately makes them better in basketball and probably in football too cause some of those teams are embarrassing.
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They don’t care.

John said:
Institutionally, BC is a better fit for the Big East than we are. That being said, we're a better fit for the ACC than they ever were.
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Hmm. Interesting.

Can also make the argument that Boston College is not really a fit for an athletic conference. They appear to be entirely disengaged from athletics….might be a fit for the Patriot League.
 
I believe football will eventually have conference “affiliations” - i.e., pre-pro football, brought to you by The University of Alabama, an affiliate of the SEC. Heading towards two big conferences (likely the SEC & B10) comprising ~40-50 schools, with remaining programs essentially serving as independents & signing deals to play one another for extended periods.

It’s all about money & this is a very viable way for the NCAA, player NIL, conferences & top football programs to keep reeling in cash. I think UConn is ahead of the curve as an independent in football & the big east is a great basketball conference. We’re showing sizable improvement in both sports & have promising futures ahead. BC on the other hand…
 
Fishy said:
Can also make the argument that Boston College is not really a fit for an athletic conference. They appear to be entirely disengaged from athletics
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Seriously. Like Temple before they got kicked out of the Big East.
 
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Fishy said:
We won’t interest them.


UConn is never joining the Big Ten.

Anyone else have any bad ideas that need smothering?
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Chill, I never said they was as I was responding to the topic. So no idea need smothering here.
 
businesslawyer said:
Good God. If we got an ACC invitation we’d be out so fast your head would turn. Our state government made that clear originally when Pitt and Syracuse left.

But Muntz is 100% right on this. One day soon private schools may be pushed out of big time sports. But, to quote Aragorn in Return of the King, “But not this day.”
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If BC is financially strained now, what would they be without the ACC TV contract?
Mora has really opened eyes at UConn with how extensive and specialized a football staff needs to be today. We were probably 20 years behind the times.
I would not like to be coaching a fringe men’s sport right now. Teams need so many bodies for football and with Tittle IX those teams will be up on the radar to get cut. The bigger travel footprints that conferences have today also factors into those decisions.
 
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