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Since the reports of bc blocking UConn have already been leaked out, the most revealing part of the article is GDF's brazen assault on the duke's ad and Coach K. There was no reason for such a gratuitous mention. Yet he did. It will now force a reaction from tobacco road. Make no mistake about it, unc and duke just sat up.

Now we know why uconn as next in line. BC was able to block by claiming pitt was a good alternative. Will they hold the same sway for #15 or #16? The only real competition is RU. Wonder how that inclusion over uconn will go over on tobacco road? Two guesses as who wins out on that.


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who was apparently the ACC's 2nd choice after the Cuse.

http://www.boston.com/sports/colleg...icles/2011/10/09/power_move_by_acc/?page=full
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Rumrunner said:
Since the reports of bc blocking UConn have already been leaked out, the most revealing part of the article is GDF's brazen assault on the duke's ad and Coach K. There was no reason for such a gratuitous mention. Yet he did. It will now force a reaction from tobacco road. Make no mistake about it, unc and duke just sat up.

Now we know why uconn as next in line. BC was able to block by claiming pitt was a good alternative. Will they hold the same sway for #15 or #16? The only real competition is RU. Wonder how that inclusion over uconn will go over on tobacco road? Two guesses as who wins out on that.

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This article just serves to confirm what we knew all along, that BC blocked us out of fear of our program. They couldn't compete on the basketball court and soon would be our b____ in football. To say that this move was motivated by football is hilarious. I'm sure that the football powers in the ACC were thrilled with the addition of Syracuse.
 
UConnJim said:
One last point on Pitt basketball. Pitt has enjoyed success over the past 10 years, but before that Pitt was an average college basketball team. They have greatly benefited by being in the BE and playing in NYC as many city players have starred at Pitt. Put Pitt in the ACC, and we will see if they keep getting the NYC players. Pitt is not in the top 50 of college basketball winning percentage even though they have one of the best records over the past 10 years. (Note: the new ACC will have 4 of the top 50 programs, and the current remaining BE has 11 of the top 50.)

You could say UConn has only been successful since Calhoun, but then you don't know history. UConn was a regional power for decades before Calhoun and played in the NCAA tournament many times.
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This sounds like a handful of St John's fans who are convinced that now that Pitt and Cuse are leaving the BE neither school will have a shot at landing any NYC players (turning St John's into a dynasty in no time).

Believe it or not, NYC players have gone to ACC schools in the past. There is no reason to believe that this will not continue.
 
I wouldn't be surprised If UConn didn't necessarily oppose SYR and Pitt's early departure in exchange for their support should an ACC opportunity eventually present itself to UConn down the road.
 
“We always keep our television partners close to us,’’ he said. “You don’t get extra money for basketball. It’s 85 percent football money. TV - ESPN - is the one who told us what to do. This was football; it had nothing to do with basketball.’’

Kind of a dumb thing for GDF to say, no?
 
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From everything I've seen and read there is absolutely no reason to believe this guy is a brain surgeon.
 
my take after reading that article is that GDF is in a lot of heat at Chestnut Hill and did this interview to try to showcase his influence to the BC fan base. The story is being picked-up by all the big hitters on Twitter. Think this will backfire on him - especially the ESPN and Coach K/Duke quotes.
 
DeacKillsaDevil said:
You need more than one school to block an invitation. If it was only BC, the votes would have been 11-1 and UConn would have been invited.
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UConn never came up for a vote. GD denied us that opportunity and promoted Pitt as a good alternative. Even though Pitt is not the first choice they are a great 2nd pick. Good hoops, football tradition (which appeases FSU, Clemson, etc in the near term), and even better, another traditional ND rival along with BC, and Cuse to hopefully pull them into the league. It's pretty easy to see why they chose Pitt as an alternative. Which is why it is so hysterical that GD is promoting himself as having all this power in the ACC. What a joke. We will be in the next round and he will be fired within the next 5 years.
 
coachcap said:
Reading that column made me feel like UConn is the second coming of Holy Cross. At one time, BCU-Holy Cross was THE rivalry in both football & basketball. Then Holy Cross decided to deemphasize major college sports. In the Big East BC went from a major player to an also ran in hoops at the expense of UConn. According to this column, UConn will be forced to demphasize at the expense of BC with some nudging from ESPN.
Susan Herbst has her work cut out for her. Tying this to another thread, let's hope that UConn gets an invitation to join the Big-10. The power of the Big 10 Network & academic influence of the CIC could once again isolate the Thunder Chickens to the Island of Elba.
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Hang in there Coach. I know some of this appears pretty bleak right now. But, Holy Cross was never UCONN in athletics. I'm old enough to remember.

We're going to be OK and it will be largely due to fans like you.
 
Bottom line, if ESPN wanted uconn in the ACC, they would be there. Gene D s on the hot seat, he has singled handedly put BC football back 20+ years. His two football hires have both been disasters, TBA on the hoops coach. He needs something to flex about, and him claiming to have blocked uconn is one way of doing just that.
He wishes he had that type of power.
 
CT93 said:
So if the ACC is so hot for Uconn, and basketball matters as Blaudschun would have you believe, why were they not considered during the first expansion?
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Since the first expansion, we took our football program from trailers (trailers!) to the BCS, and won two more men's basketball titles, and approximately 1,786 more women's basketball games. Times have changed, for the better for us, and for the worse for them (BC).
 
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uconndogs said:
Hang in there Coach. I know some of this appears pretty bleak right now. But, Holy Cross was never UCONN in athletics. I'm old enough to remember.

We're going to be OK and it will be largely due to fans like you.
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+1000. UConn is where it is today because of its athletics program. Every administrator, alumni and politician knows this and will not let the schools athletics programs slip into oblivion.
 
The article is something of a mess. It starts that basketball was important which explains the addition of Syracuse and Pitt. Then it says it was all about football, but never explains how Syracuse and Pitt address the football side.

In any event, the Defillipo comments leave absolutely no question where he stands. UConn is likely never going to the ACC, and no amount of begging harder is going to change that. His objective, clearer than ever, is the destruction of the UConn athletic program. Yet 90% of this board supports this insane "beg harder" strategy. Defillipo gave this interview AFTER Herbst had spoken to BC. They are spitting in her face.

As an aside, this is an attack on the taxpayers of Connecticut too, since UConn is a taxpayer supported institution.
 
SAMCRO said:
“We always keep our television partners close to us,’’ he said. “You don’t get extra money for basketball. It’s 85 percent football money. TV - ESPN - is the one who told us what to do. This was football; it had nothing to do with basketball.’’

Kind of a dumb thing for GDF to say, no?
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I think someone from UConn close to ESPN has to call them up, cite this quote, and tell them that we have a big problem with them legally if they don't make this right.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
I think someone from UConn close to ESPN has to call them up, cite this quote, and tell them that we have a big problem with them legally if they don't make this right.
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This was the most new-worthy part of the article. If ESPN guided the expansion, how will all of its talking heads moan about how conference realignment is ruining college sports? This does look like a move to address the rejection of the last BE contract offer.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
I think someone from UConn close to ESPN has to call them up, cite this quote, and tell them that we have a big problem with them legally if they don't make this right.
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Absolutely. BC just screwed up big time with this quote.
 
I would add that BC said (way back when) there would have to be changes in the administrations at both schools before we would ever play each other again. Well, since then, UConn has a new university president, new AD, new head football coach (and staff), the state of CT has a new governor and a new Attorney General. How's that for change on our side of the border?
 
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F BC. That is all. They will never surpass UConn athletically regardless of what happens.
 
A few points:

1. If in fact ESPN was working this behind the scene to our detriment our BCU Gov needs to revisit the sweetheart deal he just gave them with CT taxpayer money.

2. I don't think the success of Pitt basketball is so much about their NY recruiting as much as their style of play. The BE is a banging conference and Pitt has been the leader in that style of play. Will they be able to continue that style in the ACC, I don't think so. That problem surfaces every year when they get in the NCAA tournament. So the question for them is can they change their current style to one that will be allowed in the ACC and still be successful.

3. BCU - It should come as no surprise that they don't want us in the ACC. With the move to the ACC they are in a stable conference, for now, but their success has been limited and was in the early years when they were still playing with Big East players. Right now their major programs are in a state of decline. They have not competed nor have they been able to recruit players to keep them competitive. In business you don't fear competition. If you are strong competition makes you better and often benefits all involved. Why are McDonalds and Wendys always near each other?

Did you ever notice that when BCU fans talk about other programs it is never in the context of that programs positives as compared to BCU. They always trash the other program. BCU fears us, they know they will not be able to compete with us. Our move to the ACC would surely be their demise. GD's comments finally bring this out for the public to see. They will block us, success to be determined, with everything they have. They have no choice, they know that in the long run they cannot compete.

We are in for a bumpy road in the near term but I am confident we will be fine. We have too much to offer and have been around too long. Our basketball success needs no explanation. We need to remember we have only been playing big boy football for approximately 10 years and have 2 BE championships and a BCS bowl. Not bad for a newcomer.
 
Murph said:
I would add that BC said (way back when) there would have to be changes in the administrations at both schools before we would ever play each other again. Well, since then, UConn has a new university president, new AD, new head football coach (and staff), the state of CT has a new governor and a new Attorney General. How's that for change on our side of the border?
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Maybe things will cool when Calhoun retires. JC vowed to never play BC again, now BC is laughing and being happy to oblige. A lot was said and done in the heat of the moment. People have good memories and are happy to see us squirm at the moment. In the end I think we will be fine. I think what has hurt us the most was not moving up to 1A earlier, but whatever, we will be fine when the dust settles.
 
noeynox said:
Maybe things will cool when Calhoun retires. JC vowed to never play BC again, now BC is laughing and being happy to oblige. A lot was said and done in the heat of the moment. People have good memories and are happy to see us squirm at the moment. In the end I think we will be fine. I think what has hurt us the most was not moving up to 1A earlier, but whatever, we will be fine when the dust settles.
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There is still no reason to play them in Basketball from our perspective unless they will play us in football. Their basketball is irrelevant as is their football quite honestly. The only reason why we want to play them in Football is to prove we are now the better program head to head. Even that really doesn't matter much. Screw BC. There is no need to play them unless we get into the ACC.
 
Yet the schools play each other in many other sports. These games don't schedule themselves.
 
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SaeHusky said:
Cant believe BC has so much power in ACC
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As we know, one school alone can't block, so you gotta figure football-minded schools like FsU and Miami had no problem also saying No.
 
After reading the Golbe article maybe it is time for Herbst to change gears about the future home for UConn athletics. UConn and Rutgers need to get together and market themselves to sell the fact they can bring the NYC/NJ/CT tv market...and isolate BC. With the amount of financial business that is done in Boston they may even be able to push something like the BTN into the NE tv market. Be it the B-12 or B1G go that route instead of the ACC.
 
CT93 said:
So if the ACC is so hot for Uconn, and basketball matters as Blaudschun would have you believe, why were they not considered during the first expansion?
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Maybe the fact we had a football program that just upgraded from D1AA had something to do with that.
 
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