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What's with ESPN Mag? Read part of draft (cover) story in dentist office this am. They have Bazz at end of story, so not (I think) ranked in top 20. Something about his role as a good back-up.
 
He's being slotted anywhere from 22 to 30. Ennis is around 16, I don't get it. Bazz is an inch or 2 shorter and a couple years older but more capable in so many ways. There will be some crow to be eaten in about 3 years I predict.
 
Emergency re-visit to dentist revealed that ESPN Mag had him @26!! And a second stringer at best. Surely the system is duck*d-up.
 
The more I read on the "Bazz Buzz", the more I see Bazz moving up. Chicago is very high on him now (Heat, Celtics, Thunder could be on the outside, looking in). Ennis appears to be out in Chicago. Remember Chicago just dumped 1st round floppy Marquis Teague (of KenSucky fame) after a season and a half. Teague could be out of the league this fall at age 21. I doubt Chicago want another Freshman PG with limited experience, who cannot run a team or shoot consistently. If D. Rose comes back solid next year... Him & Bazz could be a very dangerous backcourt with ball handling, passing & scoring. Rose is big enough to check SGs. If they draft Bazz, I think D.J.A. is gonzo...

Selfishly, I would still love to see Bazz in Boston or even with NYKs (if they can swing a trade).
 
jibsey said:
He's being slotted anywhere from 22 to 30. Ennis is around 16, I don't get it. Bazz is an inch or 2 shorter and a couple years older but more capable in so many ways. There will be some crow to be eaten in about 3 years I predict.
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He's ahead of Ennis in a lot of the most recent mocks.
 
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As much as I'd like to see Bazz in Oklahoma City, I'm guessing they feel they're set at point guard with Reggie Jackson and Westbrook. Granted, Westbrook and Jackson can both play the two, and Westbrook is enough of a freak physically that he might even be able to play the three in spurts (we saw Jackson, Fisher, and Russ for the last ten minutes and overtime of game six against San Antonio), but this is Scottie Brooks we're talking about. And if we've learned anything, it's that Scottie Brooks doesn't give young players much rope.
 
champs99and04 said:
As much as I'd like to see Bazz in Oklahoma City, I'm guessing they feel they're set at point guard with Reggie Jackson and Westbrook. Granted, Westbrook and Jackson can both play the two, and Westbrook is enough of a freak physically that he might even be able to play the three in spurts (we saw Jackson, Fisher, and Russ for the last ten minutes and overtime of game six against San Antonio), but this is Scottie Brooks we're talking about. And if we've learned anything, it's that Scottie Brooks doesn't give young players much rope.
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Many see Bazz as D.Fish, part II (similar size, shooting, clutch shots, defense, etc). R. Westbrook & R. Jackson are scorers first, but solid ball handlers & passers. They are similar in that respect. I think OKC lets Sefolosha walk & starts Jackson at the 2G. That would open up minutes for Lamb off the bench since he can blend with either Westbrook or Jackson... but add Bazz to the mix, it could a very solid back up mix. All can score, all can handle, all can pass. Very versatile. OKC still needs a replacement for Perkins. Adams has potential. Not sure Thabeet is it though. Resign Bulter too.
 
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champs99and04 said:
As much as I'd like to see Bazz in Oklahoma City, I'm guessing they feel they're set at point guard with Reggie Jackson and Westbrook. Granted, Westbrook and Jackson can both play the two, and Westbrook is enough of a freak physically that he might even be able to play the three in spurts (we saw Jackson, Fisher, and Russ for the last ten minutes and overtime of game six against San Antonio), but this is Scottie Brooks we're talking about. And if we've learned anything, it's that Scottie Brooks doesn't give young players much rope.
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there's been talk of moving Jackson into the starting lineup with Sefalosha all but guaranteed to move on, but it could just be the OKC media pushing that more than that being what the Thunder actually want to do. if that happened they would need a PG, but as you said with Brooks in charge it would be hard to see him going to a rookie for that role. When it was Jackson's rookie year Fish got all of those minutes at backup guard in addition to Harden once Maynor tore his ACL.
 
I can see the Heat letting Chalmers walk. Draft Bazz and sign a Vet to start the season. Unnamed vet, Bazz, and Coles benefitting from playing with LBJ.
 
aceboon said:
there's been talk of moving Jackson into the starting lineup with Sefalosha all but guaranteed to move on, but it could just be the OKC media pushing that more than that being what the Thunder actually want to do. if that happened they would need a PG, but as you said with Brooks in charge it would be hard to see him going to a rookie for that role. When it was Jackson's rookie year Fish got all of those minutes at backup guard in addition to Harden once Maynor tore his ACL.
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Yeah, the more I think about it, I'm definitely not complaining if Shabazz goes to OKC. He probably wouldn't play crunch time minutes, but him and Lamb in the same back court on the second unit would be fun to watch. As much as I love Caron, he looks done to me - I doubt OKC brings him back (I assume they want to open up more minutes for Lamb) and I wouldn't be shocked if he retired. And as you said, Sefolosha is likely gone as well, so there should be plenty of time at the wing for guys like Jackson and Lamb.

Looking at the draft order, it's hard to imagine Shabazz falling to the Heat. Starting with Chicago at #19, there will be an assemblage of teams lining up for point guard help. Augustin had a good year, but I'm pretty sure he is a free agent. OKC at #21 is a possibility, and Memphis at #22 is another team to keep an eye on with Udrih being a free agent. Charlotte at #24 is enticing as well - they had Luke Ridnour playing the backup point this year so they could obviously use an upgrade there. Lastly, Houston at #25 is interesting. Lin is solid but sort of underwhelming (and was a disaster in crunch time this postseason), and you could probably hide Shabazz defensively (if he struggles early on, which he probably will) playing Beverly alongside him.
 
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I would take Patric Young and CJ Fair late first round vs. early second. With Young who cares if his offense game doesn't develop beyond the basics. Who wouldn't take his physicality inside. Lots of teams need that. Fair would be good on a running team and the dude is long and can score, quite frankly.
 
MilliniumPrince said:
I can see the Heat letting Chalmers walk. Draft Bazz and sign a Vet to start the season. Unnamed vet, Bazz, and Coles benefitting from playing with LBJ.
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I can see the Heat letting Chalmers walk all day long.. either him or Coles... Bazz would fit nicely in South Beach... But I still say he'd be a better fit with the Knicks... I digress ( since they won't be picking in rd 1 unless they can trade a player for a 1st rounder )
 
Chief00 said:
I would take Patric Young and CJ Fair late first round vs. early second. With Young who cares if his offense game doesn't develop beyond the basics. Who wouldn't take his physicality inside. Lots of teams need that. Fair would be good on a running team and the dude is long and can score, quite frankly.
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Quite frankly, I think CJ Fair will suck as a pro.
 
BigErnMcCracken said:
He's ahead of Ennis in a lot of the most recent mocks.
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Which is just more sand kicked in Cuse fans faces this year. All season Cuse fans hanging their hat on " but but but .. Tyler is a lottery pick , Napier is early second round at best"

Now it's pretty much guaranteed that Ennis is Not a lottery pick and may fall as far as mid 20's and Bazz may get up to the high teens. There is some wiggle in both sides of the equation, but it is entirely possible.

2014 is the season that keeps on giving!
 
August_West said:
Which is just more sand kicked in Cuse fans faces this year. All season Cuse fans hanging their hat on " but but but .. Tyler is a lottery pick , Napier is early second round at best"

Now it's pretty much guaranteed that Ennis is Not a lottery pick and may fall as far as mid 20's and Bazz may get up to the high teens. There is some wiggle in both sides of the equation, but it is entirely possible.

2014 is the season that keeps on giving!
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I doubt Ennis makes it out of the 1st round. I expect he will be one of the top two PGs taken in this draft.
 
I have been hearing Miami will pick Bazz if he is available and if certain guys don't fall. I know that's a lot of ifs for some here but quite frankly that's the draft.
 
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Chief00 said:
I have been hearing Miami will pick Bazz if he is available and if certain guys don't fall. I know that's a lot of ifs for some here but quite frankly that's the draft.
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Anyone want to start a drinking game for Chief00 and his "quite frankly"s? I think we would all die from alcohol poisoning pretty quickly. ;)
 
MilliniumPrince said:
I doubt Ennis makes it out of the 1st round. I expect he will be one of the top two PGs taken in this draft.
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No one thinks he's going to fall out of the first round, but he's also not going ahead of Smart or Exum, probably not Payton, and it's looking increasingly likely that he's not going before Shabazz.
 
Sleepy said:
Anyone want to start a drinking game for Chief00 and his "quite frankly"s? I think we would all die from alcohol poisoning pretty quickly. ;)
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That hasn't already happened to you? LOL
 
Chief00 said:
I have been hearing Miami will pick Bazz if he is available and if certain guys don't fall. I know that's a lot of ifs for some here but quite frankly that's the draft.
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Who told you this
 
alfonse said:
Hes just gallivanting around the US. Do the teams fly him there and put him up in a hotel? Probably a dumb question but I am curious
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Each team sets him up with hotties in a luxury hotel just in case he goes undrafted.
 
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Huskyforlife said:
Who told you this
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The internet told him. Chief's MO is to take some publicly available information and pass it off as something he heard from his "sources." Example: "I'm hearing from my sources that the Spurs just won the NBA title."

If he goes out on a limb and says his sources are telling him something that hasn't been all over the news, then you can basically bank on it being wrong. See Larrier, Boatright, etc.
 
BigErnMcCracken said:
The internet told him. Chief's MO is to take some publicly available information and pass it off as something he heard from his "sources." Example: "I'm hearing from my sources that the Spurs just won the NBA title."
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And don't forget the "I told you guys" after the fact. Oh, then there's my personal favorite, "people have been asking for me to comment on...".

'The Chief' has a well documented weed habit.
 
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