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Kait14 said:
What makes no sense here is that there WAS a fight, and the players DID get involved.. not by fighting, but they were involved none the less
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The Baylor players who left the bench were clearly peace-keepers, not antagonists.

Thus was particularly obvious with Griner -- who learned her lesson about throwing punches two years ago.

I think the refs used good judgment.
 
The head official in Des Moines said there would be no suspensions, only the ejection for the game. Baylor got lucky on that one. Griner and others should never left the bench area.
 
I'm just glad the game is over so I dont have to see Mulkey whining the entire game.
 
HuskyTJMadison said:
Actually the rule in the men's game is the same as the women's game. If there is a "fight" and the players leave the bench, then they are ejected and suspended.

I'm guessing the officials ruled that there wasn't a fight, thus the Baylor players leaving the bench were just ejected.

It will be interesting to see what the NCAA Rules Interpreter says about it because I'm sure they'll have the final word, not these three officials.
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Do you have a citation that contradicts the ruling or are you assuming you know the rules?
 
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Olde Coach said:
The Baylor players who left the bench were clearly peace-keepers, not antagonists.

Thus was particularly obvious with Griner -- who learned her lesson about throwing punches two years ago.

I think the refs used good judgment.
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Art. 8. Bench personnel leaving the bench area when a fight may break out or has broken out. The head coach may leave the bench area in this case to prevent the situation from escalating.
PENALTY:
(Art. 8) Flagrant 2 technical fouls. Two free throws shall be awarded to any player on the offended team, unless double fouls are assessed. For double flagrant fouls, no free throws are awarded. For any flagrant 2 technical foul, the ball shall be awarded to the offended team at the point of interruption.
When anyone other than the head coach leaves the bench and enters the playing court but does not participate in the fight, only one technical foul shall be assessed regardless of the number of offenders. This one foul is charged indirectly to the head coach. For any single flagrant 2 technical foul, the ball shall be awarded to the offended team at the point of interruption. When a single flagrant 2 technical foul occurs during intermission for the second or extra period, play shall resume with a throw-in to the offended team on either side of midcourt. This flagrant 2 technical foul applies toward the team-foul total, and the offender(s) shall be ejected but not subjected to suspension.
 
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How can anyone claim to know the rule about suspensions when they have no idea what the rule is? Lobo didn't know the rule and tweeted. I hope ESPN suspends HER for shoddy reporting.

A bunch of wishful thinking by fans who don't want to have to face Griner in the Final Four.
 
easttexastrash said:
How can anyone claim to know the rule about suspensions when they have no idea what the rule is? Lobo didn't know the rule and tweeted. I hope ESPN suspends HER for shoddy reporting.

A bunch of wishful thinking by fans who don't want to have to see Griner in the Final Four.
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2-3 deep breaths.... ice on the back of the neck or an icey cold coke under the arm pit EastTexas:)
 
huskymedic said:
Art. 8. Bench personnel leaving the bench area when a fight may break out or has broken out. The head coach may leave the bench area in this case to prevent the situation from escalating.
PENALTY:
(Art. 8) Flagrant 2 technical fouls. Two free throws shall be awarded to any player on the offended team, unless double fouls are assessed. For double flagrant fouls, no free throws are awarded. For any flagrant 2 technical foul, the ball shall be awarded to the offended team at the point of interruption.
When anyone other than the head coach leaves the bench and enters the playing court but does not participate in the fight, only one technical foul shall be assessed regardless of the number of offenders. This one foul is charged indirectly to the head coach. For any single flagrant 2 technical foul, the ball shall be awarded to the offended team at the point of interruption. When a single flagrant 2 technical foul occurs during intermission for the second or extra period, play shall resume with a throw-in to the offended team on either side of midcourt. This flagrant 2 technical foul applies toward the team-foul total, and the offender(s) shall be ejected but not subjected to suspension.
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Thanks for posting. Good to know someone actually took the time to look up the rule instead of just blurting out what they "think" the rule is.
 
IMHO you are beginning to overstay your welcome. We don't need your constant praise of Baylor on this board. Now you start to say things about Rebecca who is an ICON to the UConn Women's Basketball program. Let's say that Baylor players almost cost themselves a championship by the stupid actions of three players who left the bench area, regardless of what they were attempting to do. If Stricklen wasn't held back, the incident could have easily gotten much worse.

easttexastrash said:
How can anyone claim to know the rule about suspensions when they have no idea what the rule is? Lobo didn't know the rule and tweeted. I hope ESPN suspends HER for shoddy reporting.
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RockyMTblue2 said:
2-3 deep breaths.... ice on the back of the neck or an icey cold coke under the arm pit EastTexas:)
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LOL. I just couldn't believe how quickly so many wanted to think that Griner was going to be suspended.
 
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easttexastrash said:
How can anyone claim to know the rule about suspensions when they have no idea what the rule is? Lobo didn't know the rule and tweeted. I hope ESPN suspends HER for shoddy reporting.

A bunch of wishful thinking by fans who don't want to have to face Griner in the Final Four.
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Chill out.

First of all, tweeting is NOT reporting.

Second, she said it because she believed it was true. As soon as she realized her mistake -- less than 5 minutes later -- she corrected herself.
 
If shoving and nasty words exchanged is not fighting, I need to inform my mother she wrongfully punished my sister and I for "fighting" for all those years of our youth.

Does the NCAA rule book define "fighting"?
 
Wbbfan1 said:
IMHO you are beginning to overstay your welcome. We don't need your constant praise of Baylor on this board. Now you start to say things about Rebecca who is an ICON to the UConn Women's Basketball program.
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I'm commenting on her reporting skills. She had no right to send that out without knowing the rule. Had that been Kara Lawson or Carolyn Peck concerning a UCONN player the board would be steaming.
 
suzyq said:
Are the rules the same as men's game? If so Sims gets ejected and misses next game. She took a swing.
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No swing was taken... watched on super slow more tan 10 times... Sims did push Stricklens arm away rather dramatically... it was this that looked at first like a punch.

Stricklen fouls Sims as Sims goes up with the ball
Sims backs back onto the floor
Stricklen loses her balance with nowhere to step with Sims beneath her
Stricklen NEEDS both hands on Sim's belly and lower chest to regain her balance as she lowers down almost dropping a knee onto Sims
Stricklen is very slow on raising back up and is jawing something
Stricklen finally gets her right knee and left arm off of Sims but she is still jawing and bent over Sims in what appears to me to be an attempt at dominance
Sims grabs Stricklen's right arm just above the elbow and pushes Stricklen off of her with force
Stricklen grabs her won shorts and gets into a precursor of a fighting stance jawing something like "C'mon".
Lady Vol player Burdick interferes with this mess by wrapping up Stricklen just as a refs steps and gets hand on Sims
Baylor players leave the bench
To my eye on my super slow DVR it looks like Stricklen should have been hit with a technical/tossed for her aggression over Sims on the floor.
Regardless of the current rule(the rule should be:: Suspensions)Griner and her little posse should have been suspended for a game, and the ball and shots.

Typical Vol end of game magic... but I still don't get the no suspensions decision - at the very least Stricklen should have been tossed for fighting.

YOPB
 
vowelguy said:
Chill out.

First of all, tweeting is NOT reporting.

Second, she said it because she believed it was true. As soon as she realized her mistake -- less than 5 minutes later -- she corrected herself.
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When you are on the ESPN payroll, it is reporting.
 
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easttexastrash said:
LOL. I just couldn't believe how quickly so many wanted to think that Griner was going to be suspended.
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Hey, we will take her out however we can! :) Don't go away - you are a contributor here EastTexas
 
easttexastrash said:
I'm commenting on her reporting skills. She had no right to send that out without knowing the rule. Had that been Kara Lawson or Carolyn Peck concerning a UCONN player the board would be steaming.
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It was a TWEET, she was not "reporting". I trust you understand the difference?
 
Per the NCAA Rule Book:

"Any individual who leaves the bench area and enters the
playing court but does not participate in a fight (Art. 2.j) shall
not be assessed a CLASS B technical foul (no free throws
awarded). That individual shall be ejected but is not subject to
suspension."
 
Look...I've enjoyed my time here, but the statement was true.

Good luck down the line.
 
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