Baylor Reveals This Season's "Ultra Competitive" Non Conference Schedule

[CocoHusky]

triaddukefan- - - Sylvia Hatchell at 1/2 of UCONN @ NoCar game 4 or 5 years ago was asked about the 22 turnovers her team had at the half in a 25 point deficit. "I don't care if we have 100 to's as long as we play fast!"
And as to TN, we don't have to bash TN as they do it to themselves with Holly Warlick as their HC!

Sounds like Q. at Syracuse interned under Sylvia because he said:
Head coach Quentin Hillsman said his team’s goal is to make 10 3-pointers every game. And he doesn’t care how many tries it takes to achieve that mark.
"Hillsman said. “Our goal is to make 10 3s a game. That’s our goal. If it takes 40 to make 10, it’s 40. If it takes 50, it’s 50
Maybe start a new thread Dumbest Basketball quotes ever!

 

[Bretski]

I have a distinct recollection of a Thanksgiving tournament at either Storrs or the Hartford Civic Center in approximately the 2010 era when all three opponents on the weekend were at the level of Fairleigh Dickinson. Supposedly the rationale was indeed based on revenue -- UConn could expect at least 8,000 even for a non competitive home game, and with that level attendance, they could afford to pay some cupcake to play them at home. Doing that was more lucrative for the program than scheduling a home-and-home against a good team, because it didn't involve travel costs and (very often) lousy attendance and therefore lousy revenue at the Away game.

I remember Geno talking about how the midseason tournaments (the campus ones, not the big ones like Paradise Jam) are hard to book because teams want to be guaranteed at least two wins...and they know if they play UConn they are definitely losing that game...which is why they are usually not the strongest competition.

 

[oldude]

It isn't just 25 years ago that UConn played cupcakes (in quantity) in their OOC schedule. I've been following UConn since 2004-2005, and I remember many games in November and December that were completely pointless, against opponents like Fairleigh Dickinson, Oakland (Michigan), and Holy Cross. That only stopped when the Big East ended and Geno had to beef up the OOC schedule because the AAC schedule was (and still is, except for USF and Temple) so pathetically weak.

I have a distinct recollection of a Thanksgiving tournament at either Storrs or the Hartford Civic Center in approximately the 2010 era when all three opponents on the weekend were at the level of Fairleigh Dickinson. Supposedly the rationale was indeed based on revenue -- UConn could expect at least 8,000 even for a non competitive home game, and with that level attendance, they could afford to pay some cupcake to play them at home. Doing that was more lucrative for the program than scheduling a home-and-home against a good team, because it didn't involve travel costs and (very often) lousy attendance and therefore lousy revenue at the Away game.

Baylor does have two fairly good teams on its OOC schedule: UCLA and Kentucky. That's about as many as Geno had in some years while UConn was still in the Big East.

I never suggested that UConn hasn't dined on a cupcake or two, but UConn never loaded up their entire non-conference schedule with cupcakes. Baylor has exactly 2 games scheduled OOC against Power-5 conference teams, and possibly 3 if they meet GT in the finals of the Bahamas tournament.

Even when they were in the Big East, UConn always played more than a few top teams every year. From the time you indicate you began following UConn WBB, here is a list of the nationally ranked and major conference teams that the Huskies have faced each season until the old Big East was dissolved in 2013:

04-05: UNC, ASU, Mich St, TN, TX
05-06: OK, UNC, TN, TX, LSU
06-07: Purdue, UVA, TN, UNC, LSU
07-08: Stanford, Duke, UVA, South Carolina, Purdue, UNC, LSU
08-09: GT, OK, PSU, Wash, FSU, SC, LSU, UNC
09-10: TX, Clemson, Stan, FSU, UNC, Duke, OK
10-11: Baylor, GT, LSU, tOSU, FSU, UNC, Duke, OK
11-12: Stanford, TX A&M, Baylor, UNC, Duke, OK
12-13: TX A&M, Wake, Purdue, MD, PSU, Stanford, OR, Duke, Baylor

I stand by my original remarks that after they won their 1st championship, UConn has never ducked top competition like MD did last season or Baylor will do this coming season.

 

[eebmg]

Baylor and Maryland play in quality WBB conferences. They don't need to schedule top teams in the OOC like we do. Their OOC cupcakes are our in-conference cupcakes. Plain and simple really.

I do agree that teams in relatively strong conferences do not need to schedule OOC schedules that are as strong as UConn and it is probably smart for them to limit OOC top 20 confrontations to a manageable number (~5). However, I believe there is a strong benefit in scheduling top 20 teams OOC since this mimics how you would prepare for the Tournament. If you rely only on top teams in your conference which you are familiar with, you never master how to prepare for teams you have not seen and how to scout them effectively.

 

[BroadwayVa]

Ha, don't laugh too hard.. we haven't released ours yet. I don't expect it to be the gauntlet of last year but I think it should still be pretty decent...

Ohio State, Duke, Maryland and Connecticut for sure.. probably 1 more big program besides those 4.. Dawn's not going to beat down a young team.

The end of the previous year --schools were lining up to play Uconn with a less than strong team coming---SHOCK---they over excelled--
So I doubt those who lined up will do so again --except the "usual suspects" ND, USC, DePaul, ---Geno will have cup cakes on his schedule--and would have created the schedule as difficult as last season--but the comers---aren't coming. Hitting your head against the wall is only fun when you stop.

 

[BroadwayVa]

Neither Brenda nor Kim has an excuse for this pathetic OOC schedule. Last year I said I hoped the selection committee was paying attention to MD and thankfully they were. This year I hope the recruits are paying attention. This is really really ratchet for two high profile coaches to have gone this route two years in a row. Hey Kim, remember when you complained that ESPN should have been covering the UCONN vs. Baylor game last year? You were right but only because UCONN was in it. Next time you get on a soap box about lack of attention to WCBB, think before someone takes your advice and really punches you in the mouth.

I don't know if I agree but your last phrase , mean, but funny.

 

[JordyG]

Sounds like Q. at Syracuse interned under Sylvia because he said:
Head coach Quentin Hillsman said his team’s goal is to make 10 3-pointers every game. And he doesn’t care how many tries it takes to achieve that mark.
"Hillsman said. “Our goal is to make 10 3s a game. That’s our goal. If it takes 40 to make 10, it’s 40. If it takes 50, it’s 50
Maybe start a new thread Dumbest Basketball quotes ever!

More like dumbest basketball strategies ever. Dumbest basketball mindsets ever. It smacks of, yes it was Einstein who coined it, the quote I stated previously, "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results".

 

[UConnNick]

Suppositions are fun, facts are better. A number of years ago Geno or CpTV or Currant reported the fee some WOMEN's team was being paid to play uconn--
that I wrote on the Boneyard last fall when Geno paid for cupcakes to come.
I was corrected by Husky Nan
Cocohusky--Corrected that by saying he saw checks for lullyvull and others worth 5 times their annual fees

Is what you are saying verifiable? If so where--
Forget men's team--we rarely discuss men's teams here--and i don't discuss them at all.
At this point MAYBE'S Don't do it for me---with all the suppositions/guessing--it's time for FACTS.

I appreciate your input ---but you are where we were when this started. Thanks.

Newspaper articles, if you choose to believe what you read in the Courant, or other papers.

 

[cbraarj]

This years Baylor out of conference schedule still might be better than last year's Maryland out of conference schedule

This years Baylors OOC schedule might be better than Marylands Conference schedule, LOL!

 

[Carnac]

This years Baylors OOC schedule might be better than Marylands Conference schedule, LOL!

cbraarj, you've got an excellent sense of humor. You reached way out there for that one. I LOL when I read it. Good one!!

 

[CamrnCrz1974]

Duke's non-conference schedule

Notes:

• The Ohio State game is part of the ACC-Big Ten Challenge.
• The South Carolina is the back end of the home-and-home series.
• The Grand Canyon game was scheduled because Krystal Thomas was an assistant coach there, but the head coach was fired in the offseason and the new coach (Nicole Powell) did not retain Thomas as an assistant.
• I am hoping the Oregon State series is a home-and-home, as Duke would head to OSU next year...when Maryland transfer Destiny Slocum will be eligible.

 

[Carnac]

This thread has created quite a stir. 3295 views, and 100 responses as of this post. I'm feeling a little edgy today, so I'm going to flip the script. Let's suppose just for the sake of discussion and supposition (we all know it would NEVER EVER happen), and since it's a slow day here in the yard, let's suppose Geno would put together an OOC schedule similar to the one Kim has for 2017. What would be the fan reaction(s) and the ramifications regarding inclusion in the NCAA tournament?

Even with a weak and laughable OOC schedule and a weak conference schedule, UConn would still make the national tournament. Of course, they would not be a #1 seed, but we all know, if you're part of the field of 64, anything can happen, and you make your own luck. UConn would still be the team no other team would want to play.

Let's say they schedule two top 5 ranked P5 teams (South Carolina & Notre Dame, or whoever) late in the regular season in January or February to gauge where they are, and identify where (if any) last minute adjustments need to be made. Let's say for the sake of discussion, they totally demolish and embarrass those two P5 teams, which should give the tournament selection committee something to think about.

Baylor is getting away with it (and laughing at the selection committee the whole year). How would this work out for the Huskies??

 

[Vowelguy]

I just want to compliment Nan and the other admins.

I don't know how they pulled it off in this thread but they have managed to create a wormhole to the 1999 Summitt.

Nobel Prize worthy I'd say.

 

[triaddukefan]

This years Baylors OOC schedule might be better than Marylands Conference schedule, LOL!

 

[chrissaran]

Absolutely pathetic non conference schedule.

 

[mbr33ct]

C'mon folks. Kim is just trying to save some coin on her dry cleaning bill.
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I don't know why after seeing that photo, first thing that popped in my mind was Kim singing Gloria Gaynor's "I Will Survive"

 

[triaddukefan]

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Duke's non-conference schedule

Notes:

• The Ohio State game is part of the ACC-Big Ten Challenge.
• The South Carolina is the back end of the home-and-home series.
• The Grand Canyon game was scheduled because Krystal Thomas was an assistant coach there, but the head coach was fired in the offseason and the new coach (Nicole Powell) did not retain Thomas as an assistant.
• I am hoping the Oregon State series is a home-and-home, as Duke would head to OSU next year...when Maryland transfer Destiny Slocum will be eligible.

We got High Point, Presbyterian, Winthrop AND Liberty. So we can wrap up the Big South Conference by New Year's Eve

 

[tomcat]

I just caught up with this thread, and at first, wondered whether it was a joke. That schedule is actually worse -- by a lot -- that the old UConn schedules when the team played a holiday tournament at the Civic Center with the likes of Hofstra and Fairleigh Dickinson. In an era when (as MD found out) you pay for a weak OOC schedule, you have to wonder what Baylor was thinking.

 

[Sonny44]

Good thing Einstein--wasn't judged by his Choices. HIs early personal life wasn't perfect. His MATH and Physics abilities changed many theories and beliefs--and with an explosive nature.
Grant--a drunk to some--his abilities saved the North for Lincoln--his personal choices were not always great.
Lee--bad choice to leave the US Army---with minimal supplies and under staffed Army--with his abilities--almost defeated the Yankee.

No argument---life is full of choices--but if we were all defined by only our bad ones--we'd have no hero's or leaders.
I have made bad choices--that's what humans do--and this may be one ot them.

Where did I say or imply anything like that?

As to falsely inflating your record---isn't that what Kim's intentions are or Md's last year?? As Vowel guy pointed out, Geno years ago??

Years ago Geno did not have a well established beat down program. He had to start somewhere.

 

[BroadwayVa]

More like dumbest basketball strategies ever. Dumbest basketball mindsets ever. It smacks of, yes it was Einstein who coined it, the quote I stated previously, "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results".

Does that apply to Free Throw practices?? I can see Danger saying: Coach---this is INSANE--Einstein said so!!

 

[BroadwayVa]

I just caught up with this thread, and at first, wondered whether it was a joke. That schedule is actually worse -- by a lot -- that the old UConn schedules when the team played a holiday tournament at the Civic Center with the likes of Hofstra and Fairleigh Dickinson. In an era when (as MD found out) you pay for a weak OOC schedule, you have to wonder what Baylor was thinking.

I like this--and like this---so I actually double like it.

Uconn has had a few of those---they were not ACTUAL cupcakes--they were only those foolish enough to sign up for the "tournament"---and make a few buck (how much?? the discussion continues)

 

[oldude]

Does that apply to Free Throw practices?? I can see Danger saying: Coach---this is INSANE--Einstein said so!!

I don't know that it would be a wise move for a player to quote Einstein to Geno. If you have the temerity to quote any physicist to Geno, at least quote an Italian like Enrico Fermi.

 

[BroadwayVa]

Sonny -
Please read what you wrote on CHOICES.

"In life you are defined by not by your abilities, but by your choices. Neither Baylor nor UCONN has a choice of conference opponents. UCONN WCBB isn't in the AAC by choice either."

Convoluted sentence ??leading your paragraph ---led to my believing you said the reverse of what you intended??-- sorry every time I read it comes out the same way- did you mean-YOU ARE DEFINED BY YOUR CHOICES.
I replied: If everyone was only defined by their choices--we'd have no hero's or leaders' TRUISM!
I write many convoluted sentences--and try to not get angry when someone reads them as written.
- but with my response --I didn't expect anyone to take your tact--on a truism.
If you wrote that in the manner it was written you'd get my response again --you'd get the same response.
Adding now: EVERY person who ever lived on this or any other planet--at times makes BAD Choices.
Argue -a truism ---

 

[BroadwayVa]

I don't know that it would be a wise move for a player to quote Einstein to Geno. If you have the temerity to quote any physicist to Geno, at least quote an Italian like Enrico Fermi.

I don't think it would be WISE to quote Fermi to Geno-- to get out of some practice-it would end in a nuclear explosion.
I know --YOU know--my statement that Danger saying to Geno--practicing Free Throws --doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results--Einstein says that defines Insanity (as stated by a previous poster--which I jumped on--)- was saying the statement --out of context was wrong--people often repeat sayings/statements of famous people (including Geno) without thinking fully what was said.
Repetition is part of the learning process--it also builds in muscle memory--doing the same thing over and over EXPECTING to get different result--and it usually does--NOT Insanity .
If Einstein truly said that--remember he was a physicist/Mathematician--not a psychiatrist way outside of his level of expertise.

But I get your JEST.

 

[easttexastrash]

@easttexastrash.


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With this Mickey Mouse schedule?

LOL. Once again an embarrassing schedule. I think Mulkey knows that with this group of 4 new guards that things will be tough until they get some minutes under their belts. I sure hope that conference play is tough this season, which I think it will be. UT and WVU are going to present a challenge in conference.

 

[oldude]

LOL. Once again an embarrassing schedule. I think Mulkey knows that with this group of 4 new guards that things will be tough until they get some minutes under their belts. I sure hope that conference play is tough this season, which I think it will be. UT and WVU are going to present a challenge in conference.

ETT, as a Baylor fan, are you concerned at all that this schedule may be setting up the Bears for serious disappointment in March. The tournament selection committee made it very clear this past March that SOS matters. If Baylor stumbles to UCLA or KY and then drops a game or 2 in conference, they could be looking at a 3 seed and a trip to Albany, NY.

 

[HoopsFan21]

LOL. Once again an embarrassing schedule. I think Mulkey knows that with this group of 4 new guards that things will be tough until they get some minutes under their belts. I sure hope that conference play is tough this season, which I think it will be. UT and WVU are going to present a challenge in conference.

How come the Baylor Bears didn't want to play UConn for a few years and now I think they don't want us to come down to Texas until next season? So weird. Most other schools like ND will play us home and home every year.

 

[Charliebball]

and now a feel good moment for those of you that think Baylor's WBB team are just a bunch of tough girls:

 

[Charliebball]

 

[Bayareahusky]

Wow just coming in on this..... Baylor what is up? Kim always plays the patsies unless her team is loaded..... Brenda doesn't play anyone of note either to speak of..... and these coaches are not bad....

Whatever happened to "anyone, anywhere , anytime"