Baylor Asked Griner Not to Discuss Sexuality

[ThisJustIn]

It's true that it was known by many -- and I don't say all 'cause it's clear some fans were clue free -- that BG was gay. How did she finally get them to stop showing up on the big screen during basketball games? Sling her arm around her girl friend.

As for "don't talk to the press about it..." While I understand the desire to be private - be you straight OR gay - but can you 1) imagine a straight player being told not to talk about their girlfriend/boyfriend and 2) imagine celebrating a championship and thanking your family but not being allowed to thank your partner?

And didn't Kim and Baylor say they didn't know about BG?

 

[Vowelguy]

Last time I checked Mulkey and Baylor were joined at the hip (or some sexually nuetral point of contact) and damage to one is damage to the other. Do you think Baylor is not POed at this development? But you are right about recruitment. This certainly does not help Baylor.

Baylor is a conservative Baptist school. That it is against homosexuality is news to no one.

It is Mulkey who got exposed here.

 

[RS9999X]

Baylor and Griner handled it with integrity. No Evangelizing sin. No persecution of the Sinner. Griner and Baylor both seem at peace. End of story.

Except here in the Blue State better known as the 34th Circle of Hell.......the battle rages on

 

[easttexastrash]

I'd vote yes tomorrow if Texas seceding ever hit the ballot.

LOL. You're on fire today!

 

[easttexastrash]

Should Mulkey have said to Griner, in Portland style, "Sorry, lesbians are not welcome at Baylor"?

Mulkey is walking a tightrope. I think that she handled it about as well as she could have. She cannot slap the administration in the face by telling BG to be the face of lesbians in college sports...and she would have been.

I have no problem with her saying "BG, I support you and want you to live an honest life, but based on university code you simply can't be out in the same fashion that the average student is."

I think BG conducted herself with great class while at Baylor. She endured much more than possibly any other college athlete in recent memory. Now she's out in the world and out to the world and is obviously enjoying the freedom. She is now going to feel completely liberated and I suspect that her play will reflect her happiness.

 

[easttexastrash]

It's true that it was known by many -- and I don't say all 'cause it's clear some fans were clue free -- that BG was gay. How did she finally get them to stop showing up on the big screen during basketball games? Sling her arm around her girl friend.

As for "don't talk to the press about it..." While I understand the desire to be private - be you straight OR gay - but can you 1) imagine a straight player being told not to talk about their girlfriend/boyfriend and 2) imagine celebrating a championship and thanking your family but not being allowed to thank your partner?

And didn't Kim and Baylor say they didn't know about BG?

Very good points.

Kim never said she didn't know.

 

[CL82]

It is this simple. Baylor has a code of conduct, and BG surely knew what it was when she chose Baylor. Mulkey is a university employee and she is expected to uphold the university standards. BG has clearly stated that she was out at Baylor, so nobody told her she couldn't "be herself." She was told not to speak to the media about her sexuality. I would have that EVERY coach would warn players not to speak about their sexuality. Do you want some player saying "yeah, I like having group sex" on social media?

Like was stated, it's your private life, so keep it private.

Really, from her quote, it seemed more like a suggestion than an instruction.

 

[easttexastrash]

Really, from her quote, it seemed more like a suggestion than an instruction.

If it came from Compliance it was an instruction.

Maybe I've missed it but I haven't seen a quote that says that Mulkey instructed her not to put things out on social media. The only thing I see is that Mulkey knew that she was gay. But maybe I missed that.

 

[easttexastrash]

Is the full interview available anywhere?

 

[UcMiami]

All very interesting. But ... I do think every program instructs players to be very careful about what they 'publish' about their private life for their own protection. I am trying to remember anything a Uconn player has said about boyfriends or girlfriends and can only come up with I think Mel Thomas discussing travel plans to see her boyfriend play a game. It is just info that makes me uncomfortable to know - like an aging stalker.
Baylor having a published rule re sexual activity and sexual orientation is a slightly different position. Agreeing to attend Baylor is a contract to abide by their rules. Flaunting of sexual promiscuity is probably as frowned upon as flaunting ones homosexuality at Baylor.
Given that, I don't think this is a big story. Is there some hypocrisy involved ... yes. Is it ideal...no. But is it particularly unusual ... I don't think so.

 

[KnightBridgeAZ]

All very interesting. But ... I do think every program instructs players to be very careful about what they 'publish' about their private life for their own protection. I am trying to remember anything a Uconn player has said about boyfriends or girlfriends and can only come up with I think Mel Thomas discussing travel plans to see her boyfriend play a game. It is just info that makes me uncomfortable to know - like an aging stalker.
Baylor having a published rule re sexual activity and sexual orientation is a slightly different position. Agreeing to attend Baylor is a contract to abide by their rules. Flaunting of sexual promiscuity is probably as frowned upon as flaunting ones homosexuality at Baylor.
Given that, I don't think this is a big story. Is there some hypocrisy involved ... yes. Is it ideal...no. But is it particularly unusual ... I don't think so.

Good point. While I'm sure some "in" fans have ideas, I can't say I normally knew anything about Rutgers players and their dates - of either gender. It was "news" when a player was dating the star QB of the FB team (and I get that), and also the WBB player dating the MBB player, but those are the only 2 instances I think I ever knew. Private life is private life, and I agree that players are not encouraged to discuss it.

 

[RS9999X]

Get into Khalid El Amin for an example of what the opponents do to a heterosexual male with a child out of wedlock. Best to leave it private. Unless you can stage the greatest come back in UConn history and stand atop the scorers table justified.

 

[easttexastrash]

All very interesting. But ... I do think every program instructs players to be very careful about what they 'publish' about their private life for their own protection. I am trying to remember anything a Uconn player has said about boyfriends or girlfriends and can only come up with I think Mel Thomas discussing travel plans to see her boyfriend play a game. It is just info that makes me uncomfortable to know - like an aging stalker.
Baylor having a published rule re sexual activity and sexual orientation is a slightly different position. Agreeing to attend Baylor is a contract to abide by their rules. Flaunting of sexual promiscuity is probably as frowned upon as flaunting ones homosexuality at Baylor.
Given that, I don't think this is a big story. Is there some hypocrisy involved ... yes. Is it ideal...no. But is it particularly unusual ... I don't think so.

I agree. Unless Mulkey wanted to challenge the school doctrine she was/is in no position other than to support the university's position. And that is not a battle that she would ever win.

So, Mulkey had no problem with BG's lifestyle but also counseled her on how to navigate through the situation about as well as she could.

You have to admit, Baylor is keeping things interesting.

 

[huskiemaniac]

It is this simple. Baylor has a code of conduct, and BG surely knew what it was when she chose Baylor. Mulkey is a university employee and she is expected to uphold the university standards. BG has clearly stated that she was out at Baylor, so nobody told her she couldn't "be herself." She was told not to speak to the media about her sexuality. I would have that EVERY coach would warn players not to speak about their sexuality. Do you want some player saying "yeah, I like having group sex" on social media

Like was stated, it's your private life, so keep it private.

Perfectly defined hypocrisy!

 

[HuskyNan]

As for "don't talk to the press about it..." While I understand the desire to be private - be you straight OR gay - but can you 1) imagine a straight player being told not to talk about their girlfriend/boyfriend and 2) imagine celebrating a championship and thanking your family but not being allowed to thank your partner?

I'm pretty sure UConn players are, let's say, strongly encouraged to stay off Twitter & Facebook and out of the limelight with their personal lives. Not just who they date but what parties they go to, etc. I think that's a good thing. These kids, and I mean all kids on high-profile teams, have enough pressure on them to perform without having to be pestered with questions on their personal lives. It's none of our damn business anyway. I never thought about anyone's sexuality when I watched her play basketball because I just don't care nor do I need to know.

 

[earl the pearl]

btw UConn has and had a number of gay players, I wonder if they feel uncomfortable being forced to wear dresses and heels[/quote]

Get in the real world......can't believe this one!

 

[RockyMTblue2]

I suspect the only place this story has legs is The Boneyard, which is a reflection of the fact that there is so little to chat about right now. Some of us have a dislike for Mulkey and that seems to give the story more gas in its tank. Frankly don't see her as a bad guy in this one. Griner went to Baylor with her eyes open and nothing of an untoward public bru hah hah occurred.

 

[OneTrickPony]

Once Kim Mulkey made the choice to coach at Baylor, her options were pretty limited on this front, I think. Her job, no doubt, is conditioned on maintaining her silence regarding any disagreements she has with the Baptist faith, just as Brittany's scholarship was...something Kim was honor-bound to inform Brittany of during her recruitment. Both women made these commitments with eyes open, and I don't think the decision reflects poorly on either one of them, personally. As for myself, while I'm not in agreement with all Baptist teachings...I'd have been delighted to send my daughter to their medical school if she would've gotten in!

 

[Tonyc]

Gotta wonder if Baylor has standards regarding gays then why recruit gays if its against their standards???? It puts coaches in a difficult position. Think about the Penn St. incident a few years back. It was said the womens BB coach didn't want gays on the team, then why recruit them? Why go there knowing they don't want you? I know when Ive gone to places where I wasn't welcome I feel unconfortable. You think you can change the way people think? You can't. I learned along time ago the hardest thing to open is a closed mind. Hey my brother was gay, my wife and I have gay friends and I have no problem with them coming over or going out with them. I try not to judge people who are different. I live my life and they live theirs and if I don't like them whether straight or gay then I avoid them and still try to be nice to them. Be who you are. Heck a lot of people don't like it that I am so positive and have said so on this board. Im not going to change and start being negative. I will always try to be positive. Am I positive all the time NO, but I try to be. Im me and I try to accept everyone for who they are. Be a good person, and treat others the way you want to be treated and remember that person could be your brother, sister, mom or dad. How would you like it if somebody talked negatively about them? It would hurt. Listen I said my brother was gay and I had to live with some nasty and rude remarks about him. It hurt.

 

[meganmatthews]

THAT HAPPENS SO MUCH EVERYWHERE THAT IT'S BASICALLY A OLD, BORING STORY, SO NO COMMENT FROM ME. DO YOU REALLY THINK THAT'S THE ONLY SCHOOL THAT PRACTICES THIS?

That was the loudest, longest non-comment I have ever seen. Next time use caps so we can hear you better . . . .oh wait . . .you did.

 

[meganmatthews]

I think Griner should have asked Mulkey not to wear such weird freakin' clothes. That definitely must hurt recruiting.

Not to mention my eyes.

 

[calpedaler]

Perfectly defined hypocrisy!

So true. If she weren't a well hyped athlete, would Baylor's reaction to the "open secret" be the same.

 

[meganmatthews]

Wow. My posts to DaddyChoc were deleted? Even though they were "liked" several times? Interesting.

Maybe it was "liked" too much. You may have maxed out the likes limit for a post, and actually bled over into the "dislike" section, which actually exists in a little known magical dimension on the boneyard. People who enter this dimension are generally frowned upon. It's like, (no pun intended) "Who do you think you are getting all these "likes?" You think you're better than us? You think you're more "liked" than the rest of us? Really? Well, LIKE THIS ! And suddenly your post is deleted. Then again, maybe the moderator simply fell asleep at the keyboard and accidentally pressed the delete button with his nose, but is too embarrassed to admit it. Either way, there should really be a full investigation.

 

[meganmatthews]

Sorry about that above post. I hadn't had my coffee yet.

 

[easttexastrash]

Perfectly defined hypocrisy!

I strive for perfection!