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UcMiami said:
All very interesting. But ... I do think every program instructs players to be very careful about what they 'publish' about their private life for their own protection. I am trying to remember anything a Uconn player has said about boyfriends or girlfriends and can only come up with I think Mel Thomas discussing travel plans to see her boyfriend play a game. It is just info that makes me uncomfortable to know - like an aging stalker.
Baylor having a published rule re sexual activity and sexual orientation is a slightly different position. Agreeing to attend Baylor is a contract to abide by their rules. Flaunting of sexual promiscuity is probably as frowned upon as flaunting ones homosexuality at Baylor.
Given that, I don't think this is a big story. Is there some hypocrisy involved ... yes. Is it ideal...no. But is it particularly unusual ... I don't think so.
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Good point. While I'm sure some "in" fans have ideas, I can't say I normally knew anything about Rutgers players and their dates - of either gender. It was "news" when a player was dating the star QB of the FB team (and I get that), and also the WBB player dating the MBB player, but those are the only 2 instances I think I ever knew. Private life is private life, and I agree that players are not encouraged to discuss it.
 
Get into Khalid El Amin for an example of what the opponents do to a heterosexual male with a child out of wedlock. Best to leave it private. Unless you can stage the greatest come back in UConn history and stand atop the scorers table justified.
 
UcMiami said:
All very interesting. But ... I do think every program instructs players to be very careful about what they 'publish' about their private life for their own protection. I am trying to remember anything a Uconn player has said about boyfriends or girlfriends and can only come up with I think Mel Thomas discussing travel plans to see her boyfriend play a game. It is just info that makes me uncomfortable to know - like an aging stalker.
Baylor having a published rule re sexual activity and sexual orientation is a slightly different position. Agreeing to attend Baylor is a contract to abide by their rules. Flaunting of sexual promiscuity is probably as frowned upon as flaunting ones homosexuality at Baylor.
Given that, I don't think this is a big story. Is there some hypocrisy involved ... yes. Is it ideal...no. But is it particularly unusual ... I don't think so.
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I agree. Unless Mulkey wanted to challenge the school doctrine she was/is in no position other than to support the university's position. And that is not a battle that she would ever win.

So, Mulkey had no problem with BG's lifestyle but also counseled her on how to navigate through the situation about as well as she could.

You have to admit, Baylor is keeping things interesting.
 
easttexastrash said:
It is this simple. Baylor has a code of conduct, and BG surely knew what it was when she chose Baylor. Mulkey is a university employee and she is expected to uphold the university standards. BG has clearly stated that she was out at Baylor, so nobody told her she couldn't "be herself." She was told not to speak to the media about her sexuality. I would have that EVERY coach would warn players not to speak about their sexuality. Do you want some player saying "yeah, I like having group sex" on social media

Like was stated, it's your private life, so keep it private.
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Perfectly defined hypocrisy!
 
ThisJustIn said:
As for "don't talk to the press about it..." While I understand the desire to be private - be you straight OR gay - but can you 1) imagine a straight player being told not to talk about their girlfriend/boyfriend and 2) imagine celebrating a championship and thanking your family but not being allowed to thank your partner?
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I'm pretty sure UConn players are, let's say, strongly encouraged to stay off Twitter & Facebook and out of the limelight with their personal lives. Not just who they date but what parties they go to, etc. I think that's a good thing. These kids, and I mean all kids on high-profile teams, have enough pressure on them to perform without having to be pestered with questions on their personal lives. It's none of our damn business anyway. I never thought about anyone's sexuality when I watched her play basketball because I just don't care nor do I need to know.
 
btw UConn has and had a number of gay players, I wonder if they feel uncomfortable being forced to wear dresses and heels[/quote]

Get in the real world......can't believe this one!
 
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I suspect the only place this story has legs is The Boneyard, which is a reflection of the fact that there is so little to chat about right now. Some of us have a dislike for Mulkey and that seems to give the story more gas in its tank. Frankly don't see her as a bad guy in this one. Griner went to Baylor with her eyes open and nothing of an untoward public bru hah hah occurred.
 
Once Kim Mulkey made the choice to coach at Baylor, her options were pretty limited on this front, I think. Her job, no doubt, is conditioned on maintaining her silence regarding any disagreements she has with the Baptist faith, just as Brittany's scholarship was...something Kim was honor-bound to inform Brittany of during her recruitment. Both women made these commitments with eyes open, and I don't think the decision reflects poorly on either one of them, personally. As for myself, while I'm not in agreement with all Baptist teachings...I'd have been delighted to send my daughter to their medical school if she would've gotten in!
 
Gotta wonder if Baylor has standards regarding gays then why recruit gays if its against their standards???? It puts coaches in a difficult position. Think about the Penn St. incident a few years back. It was said the womens BB coach didn't want gays on the team, then why recruit them? Why go there knowing they don't want you? I know when Ive gone to places where I wasn't welcome I feel unconfortable. You think you can change the way people think? You can't. I learned along time ago the hardest thing to open is a closed mind. Hey my brother was gay, my wife and I have gay friends and I have no problem with them coming over or going out with them. I try not to judge people who are different. I live my life and they live theirs and if I don't like them whether straight or gay then I avoid them and still try to be nice to them. Be who you are. Heck a lot of people don't like it that I am so positive and have said so on this board. Im not going to change and start being negative. I will always try to be positive. Am I positive all the time NO, but I try to be. Im me and I try to accept everyone for who they are. Be a good person, and treat others the way you want to be treated and remember that person could be your brother, sister, mom or dad. How would you like it if somebody talked negatively about them? It would hurt. Listen I said my brother was gay and I had to live with some nasty and rude remarks about him. It hurt.
 
pauliewalnuts said:
THAT HAPPENS SO MUCH EVERYWHERE THAT IT'S BASICALLY A OLD, BORING STORY, SO NO COMMENT FROM ME. DO YOU REALLY THINK THAT'S THE ONLY SCHOOL THAT PRACTICES THIS?
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That was the loudest, longest non-comment I have ever seen. Next time use caps so we can hear you better . . . .oh wait . . .you did. :)
 
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formerlurker said:
Wow. My posts to DaddyChoc were deleted? Even though they were "liked" several times? Interesting.
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Maybe it was "liked" too much. You may have maxed out the likes limit for a post, and actually bled over into the "dislike" section, which actually exists in a little known magical dimension on the boneyard. People who enter this dimension are generally frowned upon. It's like, (no pun intended) "Who do you think you are getting all these "likes?" You think you're better than us? You think you're more "liked" than the rest of us? Really? Well, LIKE THIS ! And suddenly your post is deleted. Then again, maybe the moderator simply fell asleep at the keyboard and accidentally pressed the delete button with his nose, but is too embarrassed to admit it. Either way, there should really be a full investigation.
 
RockyMTblue2 said:
I suspect the only place this story has legs is The Boneyard, which is a reflection of the fact that there is so little to chat about right now. Some of us have a dislike for Mulkey and that seems to give the story more gas in its tank. Frankly don't see her as a bad guy in this one. Griner went to Baylor with her eyes open and nothing of an untoward public bru hah hah occurred.
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It's also getting quite a bit of attention on the Baylor board. Even ETT weighed in on it -- several times.

I don't think Mulkey or Griner are bad guys here. The University itself, however, may need to do some soul searching. When you ignore your "principles" by looking the other way as an institution for an athlete who can bring you a winning team that screams hypocrisy. Even if I personally feel those principles are looney.

I hope BG finds happiness and a soulmate regardless of gender. Having that special person to journey through life with is what's really important. All this other crapola eventually passes.
 
vowelguy said:
Before today, had you ever heard that about Mulkey?
And there is a difference between Mulkey and Baylor admin.
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You completely missed my point, but no biggie.
 
easttexastrash said:
Like was stated, it's your private life, so keep it private.
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I'd like to ask though - if a straight person mentioned on social media, "Happy anniversary" to their loved one, would he or she be asked to take that down? I'm guessing not in this case. So you are talking about a personal, private event, but I bet it would be handled differently by the Baylor administration depending on the sexuality of the athlete.
 
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Icebear said:
It is possible to delete one's own posts.
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No, please don't delete that one: I liked it. Wry, sarcastic without being too cutting, poking fun at posts, magic, mods, human behavior...that's not a post for deleting: that's a post for framing, and hanging on the wall!:D
 
Does ANYBODY ELSE think it is, at least, odd to be talking about any 17 to 22 year old's sexual orientation.

Like PDAs (Public Displays of Affection), I'm just not interested in it.
 
alexrgct said:
I, for one, have lost what little respect I had for Kim Mulkey. "Yeah, it's totally cool that you're gay. Win me a national championship. Just don't talk about it so that I can say whatever some other kid and her family want to hear."

Mods, delete this if you want, but I'd think it'd be difficult to talk out of both sides of your mouth with Bell's Palsy.
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Frankly, I'd be interested in Kim Mulkey's preferences. I've had the hots for her since she played at La Tech.
 
Sakibomb25 said:
I'd like to ask though - if a straight person mentioned on social media, "Happy anniversary" to their loved one, would he or she be asked to take that down? I'm guessing not in this case. So you are talking about a personal, private event, but I bet it would be handled differently by the Baylor administration depending on the sexuality of the athlete.
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It absolutely would be handled differently. I am not saying that is right, but that is the way it is at Baylor. Being gay violates the "Code of Conduct."
 
Does ANYBODY ELSE think it is, at least, odd to be talking about any 17 to 22 year old's sexual orientation.

Like PDAs (Public Displays of Affection), I'm just not interested in it.
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I'm narcissistic enough to think everyone should be talking about mine. Maybe even start a forum for it. I'm suffering from public displays of disinterest from the opposite sex.
 
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JimGunther said:
Does ANYBODY ELSE think it is, at least, odd to be talking about any 17 to 22 year old's sexual orientation.

Like PDAs (Public Displays of Affection), I'm just not interested in it.
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Do you really think what this thread is about? If so you might want to actually read or reread it.
 
pinotbear said:
No, please don't delete that one: I liked it. Wry, sarcastic without being too cutting, poking fun at posts, magic, mods, human behavior...that's not a post for deleting: that's a post for framing, and hanging on the wall!:D
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The Pinot is strong in this Bear...! ;)
 
pinotbear said:
No, please don't delete that one: I liked it. Wry, sarcastic without being too cutting, poking fun at posts, magic, mods, human behavior...that's not a post for deleting: that's a post for framing, and hanging on the wall!:D
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I wasn't suggesting she should, just noting it is possible if one wants to delete their own post.
 
That is Texas in a nutshell.......Close your eyes.........Baylor is a Baptist school with certain bylaws and rules and Mulkey wants to keep her job........Lets see what happens in Waco for the next few years.......Baylor is a great school.
 
Baylor is an excellent school...arguably the best medical school in the Southwest...
 
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