Baylor Asked Griner Not to Discuss Sexuality

[easttexastrash]

I think the reporting of the information is too limited and cryptic to draw any firm conclusions. That being said, it seems that Griner was aware her orientation could be an issue at Baylor and raised the issue with Mulkey in the recruiting process and Mulkey told her it would not be an issue if she did not wear it on her sleeve. Guess what: that approach worked. That being said I imagine that Griner chaffed at the constraints imposed by being at Baylor from time to time. Perhaps there was some payback for her in her public announcement so soon after the end of her senior season at Baylor.

Bingo...on multiple points.

 

[easttexastrash]

BG has stated that she was out the entire time at Baylor. Anyone who observed her and Shanay Washington would have no problem figuring out what their relationship was. BG was never asked not to live a life on campus. She was simply asked to do discuss it with the press.

As I've said before, some people enjoy manufactured outrage.

 

[easttexastrash]

Why, what a silly thing to say! I have a number of gay friends who are very comfortable dressed in female attire....and some of them are even women.

You have friends?

 

[Icebear]

BG has stated that she was out the entire time at Baylor. Anyone who observed her and Shanay Washington would have no problem figuring out what their relationship was. BG was never asked not to live a life on campus. She was simply asked to do discuss it with the press.

As I've said before, some people enjoy manufactured outrage.

Your comments don't match up perfectly with the ESPN comment supposedly straight from BG.

"It was more of a unwritten law [to not discuss your sexuality] ... it was just kind of, like, one of those things, you know, just don't do it," Griner said Friday. "They kind of tried to make it, like, 'Why put your business out on the street like that?'"

But Griner reiterated on Friday that her sexuality was an open secret at Baylor.
"I told Coach [Mulkey] when she was recruiting me. I was like, 'I'm gay. I hope that's not a problem,' and she told me that it wasn't," Griner said. "I mean, my teammates knew, obviously they all knew. Everybody knew about it."

Baylor University, a private Baptist school located in Waco, Texas, has a "Statement on Human Sexuality" in its student handbook. Located under the label "Sexual Misconduct," it says that "Christian churches across the ages and around the world have affirmed purity in singleness and fidelity in marriage between a man and a woman as the biblical norm. Temptations to deviate from this norm include both heterosexual sex outside of marriage and homosexual behavior. It is thus expected that Baylor students will not participate in advocacy groups which promote understandings of sexuality that are contrary to biblical teaching."

 

[Icebear]

You have friends?

Are you confusing Rady with someone else?

 

[Vowelguy]

She said she went to Baylor knowing that openly talking your homosexuality was "an unwritten" nono, then she found out it was a written no no. She obviously was not crazy about the policy.

Not quite sure what she expected going to a strict Baptist school. And I imagine that the school repeated its religious message many times - did she think they weren't serious?

 

[CL82]

"It was more of a unwritten law [to not discuss your sexuality] ... it was just kind of, like, one of those things, you know, just don't do it," Griner said Friday. "They kind of tried to make it, like, 'Why put your business out on the street like that?'"

You know as much as I want to feel 'holier than thou' on this issue, I don't have a problem with this approach. The title of the article makes it seem like it was more than that.

 

[Vowelguy]

You don't hear Geno advertising "if you are gay, you will need to keep it to your self".

But Mulkey didn't advertise this publicly either.
And we have no idea what Geno et al says to them privately. For all we know may say: your private life is your business, so keep it private.

 

[EricLA]

But Mulkey didn't advertise this publicly either.
And we have no idea what Geno et al says to them privately. For all we know may say: your private life is your business, so keep it private.

Perhaps, but have you EVER heard a player leave UCONN and say "yeah, Geno told me not to be myself"? At Baylor it even went so far as to have the administration tell Griner to take some tweets down that they found offensive. Granted UCONN players aren't allowed to tweet or use any social media during the season, but still. You ever hear a player say "Geno (or someone else at UCONN) told me to remove some tweets because I discussed homosexual things"?

 

[Vowelguy]

Perhaps, but have you EVER heard a player leave UCONN and say "yeah, Geno told me not to be myself"? At Baylor it even went so far as to have the administration tell Griner to take some tweets down that they found offensive. Granted UCONN players aren't allowed to tweet or use any social media during the season, but still. You ever hear a player say "Geno (or someone else at UCONN) told me to remove some tweets because I discussed homosexual things"?

Before today, had you ever heard that about Mulkey?
And there is a difference between Mulkey and Baylor admin.

 

[bruinbball]

Too often, it seems, university codes of conduct, student handbook rules, etc. seem only to apply to non-athletes.

That said, my problem with this news is that Mulkey knowingly recruited a young lady whose lifestyle choice was going to put her (Griner) in a very difficult position given the written policies of a private Baptist university. But all Kim seemed to be worried about was how it might hurt recruiting and the program's image.

Must give BYU an exception here. They found out a player (Davies) had sex with his girlfriend and suspended him near the end of a very good season. Tough rules, but if applied universally, I have no problem with that.

 

[blackbird]

I'll give Mulkey the benefit of the doubt here. I think it's more of a Baylor policy than her policy.

As for Uconn. The bigger Uconn players have always seemed to be private. They aren't really into social media. They don't really talk about their personal life. I'm not sure if that's a choice, or if that's something Geno instills. But I think it's more about privacy than sexuality.

The dresses and heels? That's professional attire. And it's more CD than Geno. It's a little old fashioned, but CD seems sort of that way. The girls can't wear short dresses either.

 

[UConn990411]

I think Griner should have asked Mulkey not to wear such weird freakin' clothes. That definitely must hurt recruiting.

 

[easttexastrash]

It is this simple. Baylor has a code of conduct, and BG surely knew what it was when she chose Baylor. Mulkey is a university employee and she is expected to uphold the university standards. BG has clearly stated that she was out at Baylor, so nobody told her she couldn't "be herself." She was told not to speak to the media about her sexuality. I would have that EVERY coach would warn players not to speak about their sexuality. Do you want some player saying "yeah, I like having group sex" on social media?

Like was stated, it's your private life, so keep it private.

 

[formerlurker]

Wow. My posts to DaddyChoc were deleted? Even though they were "liked" several times? Interesting.

 

[easttexastrash]

I think Griner should have asked Mulkey not to wear such weird freakin' clothes. That definitely must hurt recruiting.

LOL...good one.

 

[easttexastrash]

Wow. My posts to DaddyChoc were deleted? Even though they were "liked" several times? Interesting.

I guess the one "not liked" overrode the multiple "liked."

 

[SubbaBub]

I think the bigger story is being overlooked. If Baylor is supposed to be such a devout Baptist institution and it was an open secret. How are they not the biggest hypocrites in the Big 12.

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[JS]

Wow. My posts to DaddyChoc were deleted? Even though they were "liked" several times? Interesting.

Apparently you haven't posted much on this particular board. Sometimes it's good to get the hang of a place before wading in.

Since you find the deletion interesting, you're invited to talk about it by PM. Not on the board.

I'll add that a couple of people -- you know who you are -- need to take a deep breath and stop the squabbling and personal attacks. The thread isn't necessarily that contentious. This stuff is tangential.

 

[HuskyNan]

Wow. My posts to DaddyChoc were deleted? Even though they were "liked" several times? Interesting.

You were replying to deleted posts. It wasn't you that was being deleted.

 

[formerlurker]

You were replying to deleted posts. It wasn't you that was being deleted.

Thanks, Nan.

 

[RockyMTblue2]

Well, the Griner-Mulkey story has hit MSN's home page. Baylor has to be POed.

 

[Vowelguy]

Well, the Griner-Mulkey story has hit MSN's home page. Baylor has to be POed.

Baylor?
It's Mulkey who got thrown under the bus, and now will have a much harder time recruiting.

 

[formerlurker]

I'd vote yes tomorrow if Texas seceding ever hit the ballot.

 

[RockyMTblue2]

Baylor?
It's Mulkey who got thrown under the bus, and now will have a much harder time recruiting.

Last time I checked Mulkey and Baylor were joined at the hip (or some sexually nuetral point of contact) and damage to one is damage to the other. Do you think Baylor is not POed at this development? But you are right about recruitment. This certainly does not help Baylor.