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Dwight Howard asked why players needed to wear masks in the bubble, something to the effect of "It's not like the virus is floating around in the air." I think Mr. Howard has been living in a bubble, so he should feel right at home in the NBA bubble.
 
McLovin said:
It's certainly possible this is going to have a domino effect, but baseball has planned for this and knew this was a possibility. Rather than rooting for the virus to spread, I'm going to hold out hope that the protocols they developed with advisory from the medical community will keep the season afloat. The players and coaches who opted to play this season are fully aware of these protocols and the risks associated with playing this season.

But if you want to root for Covid to keep spreading among the people in MLB to "stick it to the dumb southern states", I guess that's your right.
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What about airplane charter staff, hotel staff, umpires, familly members of players, team chefs, stadium/team staff, literally anyone who comes in contact with these players and didn't agree to the risk. This has little to do with baseball roster sizes or even the players. They agreed to TRY to play the season. There was always the very real chance it wasn't going to work. As things get worse, expectations change and are managed accordingly. I don't know anyone rooting for this to spread to stick it to anyone. Maybe people hope that many in the southern states see now that it's not a hoax and will finally take it seriously and take the proper precautions.
 
navery12 said:
You keep talking about how baseball planned for this, what exactly do you think the plan was? Because I can't imagine it was let 12 players on one team get infected. Or to have people get tested then go play 2 games against another team while waiting for the results to come back.
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I will agree that the system either did not work or was not followed regarding the delayed testing results. That is unacceptable. And if the protocol was to play with pending tests, the protocols need to be reexamined if they actually want to keep players healthy and this season to happen.

But the league knew there would be positive tests throughout the season. They expanded clubs from the traditional 40-man roster to 60-man roster so a team can be fielded in the event of an outbreak. I'm sure they didn't think it would happen the first weekend. Clearly the Marlins aren't playing today and will probably not be playing for a few days while this gets sorted out. The same should go for the Yankees / Phillies who are supposed to be playing each other starting today.

All I'm saying is, let's give this a few days to sort itself and figure out the source. They need to know if it was a failure of the protocols or if the protocols were intentionally broken. I'm holding out hope, because 2020 has sucked and having baseball back has helped a little.
 
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UCfor3 said:
What about airplane charter staff, hotel staff, umpires, familly members of players, team chefs, stadium/team staff, literally anyone who comes in contact with these players and didn't agree to the risk. This has little to do with baseball roster sizes or even the players. They agreed to TRY to play the season. There was always the very real chance it wasn't going to work. As things get worse, expectations change and are managed accordingly. I don't know anyone rooting for this to spread to stick it to anyone. Maybe people hope that many in the southern states see now that it's not a hoax and will finally take it seriously and take the proper precautions.
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Anyone associated with baseball (umpires, team chefs, stadium workers, team staff, etc.) all had the option to opt out of the season. No one forced them to participate.

As for the others (hotel staff, airlines / airport staff) either they only have a job now because the MLB is using their services or their hotels / airlines would be serving other customers, many of which are not frequently tested and under strict protocols like the MLB players are.

I'm not trying to minimize the risk of Covid or call it a hoax. I actually had it myself last month (I live in Nashville) and luckily it wasn't bad, but I know for others it can be. But unless we plan to literally shut everything down until we have a widely available vaccine, which could be another year or two, life should go on, albeit while doing what we can to minimize the risks. People in the MLB circle and those they come in contact with are far safer than the essential workers in the general public like grocery store clerks, nurses, Fedex drivers, etc, because of the constant testing the players undergo.
 
UCTitleTown said:
MLS is going well. I've been enjoying it. I've watched more MLS soccer in the last month than I have in my life prior.
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Yeah, it's weird what quarantine has done. I like following stats, but I don't watch NBA, but I actually plan on watching more WNBA than NBA and I'm a 34 year old who is not a season ticket holder for UConn's women's team. I'd like to check out the teams with multiple UConn representation.
 
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McLovin said:
Anyone associated with baseball (umpires, team chefs, stadium workers, team staff, etc.) all had the option to opt out of the season. No one forced them to participate.

As for the others (hotel staff, airlines / airport staff) either they only have a job now because the MLB is using their services or their hotels / airlines would be serving other customers, many of which are not frequently tested and under strict protocols like the MLB players are.

I'm not trying to minimize the risk of Covid or call it a hoax. I actually had it myself last month (I live in Nashville) and luckily it wasn't bad, but I know for others it can be. But unless we plan to literally shut everything down until we have a widely available vaccine, which could be another year or two, life should go on, albeit while doing what we can to minimize the risks. People in the MLB circle and those they come in contact with are far safer than the essential workers in the general public like grocery store clerks, nurses, Fedex drivers, etc, because of the constant testing the players undergo.
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Doesn't mean anything if they thumb their noses @ what's staring them in their face.
 
NEforceUConn said:
When I was a kid we use to play bb with 4 on a team. You would have a pitcher, left fielder, center fielder and ss. Any ground ball hit if thrown to the pitcher before the runner reached first was an out. Batting team supplied catcher No balls or strikes called. I think a foul ball was a strike all the time.

maybe MLB should try this format.
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Or maybe something like this:

 
UCTitleTown said:
Dwight Howard asked why players needed to wear masks in the bubble, something to the effect of "It's not like the virus is floating around in the air." I think Mr. Howard has been living in a bubble, so he should feel right at home in the NBA bubble.
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Dwight is a top flight idiot. His COVID takes are the least disturbing of the stuff he believes.

2020 has been one hell of a reminder that most professional athletes are as dumb as a rock.
 
As a baseball hater. This could be my all time favorite thread title.
 
I got news for you baseball has been screwed with Manfred as commissioner. Giving the Astros a slap on the wrist and that’s only because it was brought to the public eye.

Is it a coincidence that there was a thunderstorm the very second he was getting interviewed by ESPN, notice there was lightning in the background when he was speaking.
 
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huskymedic said:
Doesn't mean anything if they thumb their noses @ what's staring them in their face.
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If this doesn’t drive Manfred out of the sport nothing will complete negligence.
 
UCfor3 said:
What about airplane charter staff, hotel staff, umpires, familly members of players, team chefs, stadium/team staff, literally anyone who comes in contact with these players and didn't agree to the risk. This has little to do with baseball roster sizes or even the players. They agreed to TRY to play the season. There was always the very real chance it wasn't going to work. As things get worse, expectations change and are managed accordingly. I don't know anyone rooting for this to spread to stick it to anyone. Maybe people hope that many in the southern states see now that it's not a hoax and will finally take it seriously and take the proper precautions.
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I don’t know what the plan is now but I can tell you what it should have been. Complete isolation of team and staff at work and home. No room service at hotels, buffet team hotel meals with no service. Private charters with dedicated isolated charter staff. No family contact for 3 months of season and playoff. They obviously did not go that far, and now the season will be in jeopardy.
 
McLovin said:
Anyone associated with baseball (umpires, team chefs, stadium workers, team staff, etc.) all had the option to opt out of the season. No one forced them to participate.

As for the others (hotel staff, airlines / airport staff) either they only have a job now because the MLB is using their services or their hotels / airlines would be serving other customers, many of which are not frequently tested and under strict protocols like the MLB players are.

I'm not trying to minimize the risk of Covid or call it a hoax. I actually had it myself last month (I live in Nashville) and luckily it wasn't bad, but I know for others it can be. But unless we plan to literally shut everything down until we have a widely available vaccine, which could be another year or two, life should go on, albeit while doing what we can to minimize the risks. People in the MLB circle and those they come in contact with are far safer than the essential workers in the general public like grocery store clerks, nurses, Fedex drivers, etc, because of the constant testing the players undergo.
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It can be done people gotta have better discipline, sports teams gotta basically have military discipline to pull this off.
 
Lefty2one said:
I think it's a bit crazy that the NBA is trying to finish their season but they're the only ones with a prayer. They went a full week without a positive COVID test.

MLB, NFL, etc. that think they can get away with normal travel don't have a prayer.
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I’d bet on the nhl over the nba.
 
UConNick said:
Hasn't exactly been protocol during games, either. As much as I loved watching the Yankees again I cringed every time someone high-fived or hugged in the dugout. Not to mention Boone wasn't even wearing his mask correctly half the time. This was always going to be difficult seeing as we never (even tried) to get levels down to as low as Germany or other European countries before they brought back soccer.
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Crazy thing is Clint Frazier of all people took it the most seriously then he gets screwed over getting sent down.
 
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Lefty2one said:
I think it's a bit crazy that the NBA is trying to finish their season but they're the only ones with a prayer. They went a full week without a positive COVID test.

MLB, NFL, etc. that think they can get away with normal travel don't have a prayer.
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It's no different for college basketball in the fall/winter. We need to prepare for that.

The reality is you play the games, guys test positive and you simply don't worry about that or you don't play. It's not reasonable to think you can actually play and travel and not have people test positive.
 
MLB did not have a plan for this.

There is too much money at stake to trust anyone to do the right thing

Not defending Lou Williams, but going to Magic City just for the food is actually plausible. Dumb move considering the optics, but it is plausible.
 
McLovin said:
Anyone associated with baseball (umpires, team chefs, stadium workers, team staff, etc.) all had the option to opt out of the season. No one forced them to participate.

As for the others (hotel staff, airlines / airport staff) either they only have a job now because the MLB is using their services or their hotels / airlines would be serving other customers, many of which are not frequently tested and under strict protocols like the MLB players are.

I'm not trying to minimize the risk of Covid or call it a hoax. I actually had it myself last month (I live in Nashville) and luckily it wasn't bad, but I know for others it can be. But unless we plan to literally shut everything down until we have a widely available vaccine, which could be another year or two, life should go on, albeit while doing what we can to minimize the risks. People in the MLB circle and those they come in contact with are far safer than the essential workers in the general public like grocery store clerks, nurses, Fedex drivers, etc, because of the constant testing the players undergo.
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That's kind of the point though. Baseball is not essential. There is a lot of real estate between life must go on and play baseball so we have something to watch on TV. I want life back as much as anyone, but if we continue with half measures this will only extend longer.
 
McLovin said:
Good I'm also rooting for the same thing.

The jury is still out on that. Before we can jump to any conclusions we need to figure out where the players got virus (most likely). Was it in the general course of traveling to and from the hotel and ball park? Or were the players going out to bars and restaurants in Miami / Atlanta?

I will agree, that if it they players were following the protocols and picked it up inside the strict rules the MLB has laid out, the season should be reconsidered. But if the players broke those protocols, then we can't fault the system.
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No. But people are people. All it takes is 1 person, even unintentionally/ accidentally to do something dumb and you can go from all the protocols you want to what, 15 cases.
 
HitDog said:
Yankees/Phillies has been postponed

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Hopefully, Joel Sherman is wrong saying it is cancelled and not just postponed. Big difference between those two words.
 
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