B1G & SEC non-committal on CFP future

[Rufus]

How many "UConn is going to die" posts a day to people need from Rufus to get his point? I need zero. How about everyone else?

So you don't think this structure is to eliminate all independents and force teams to join conferences?

 

[ScottVib]

So you don't think this structure is to eliminate all independents and force teams to join conferences?

I don’t think they care.

The only independent they worry about is Notre Dame and they’re giving Notre Dame a bigger share. If Washington State, Oregon State and UConn want to take less money or if no conference is willing to add them and dilute their own limited payout they’re not going to lose sleep over it.

 

[Exit 4]

So you don't think this structure is to eliminate all independents and force teams to join conferences?

Well its certainly designed to discourage independents. And I think that is perhaps smart in the big picture view. They don't want more programs jumping in from FCS that cannot at least get a conf invite. We are a unique animal - arrived at independence a different way.

 

[WrenchFan69]

So we are now alone as the lowest paid participant in the CFP system. Gotta think a conference move is coming?

 

[jostar1]

So we are now alone as the lowest paid participant in the CFP system. Gotta think a conference move is coming?

Why?

 

[WrenchFan69]

Why?

As the tweet says, Oregon State and Washington State renegotiated their payout to be $3.6mil. True independents will only get $350k. We are the only true independent left. So we are alone at $350k.

 

[Rufus]

Do the SEC and Big Ten have a football rivalry? One analyst weighs in

Amid the historic phase of recent conference expansion and realignment that becomes official this summer, and often in the years before then, there has always s

www.si.com

 

[Rufus]

SEC, Big Ten Nearly Exited College Football Playoff Before Striking New Deal

Before last month's expanded College Football Playoff agreement, the NCAA faced the potential exit of powerhouse conferences SEC and Big Ten from the postseason

www.si.com

 

[Rufus]

SEC, Big Ten were nearly even in NFL draft picks if USC is included

The USC Trojans are joining Washington, Oregon and UCLA in the Big Ten later this year. As the 2024 NFL draft recedes into memory, it's worth asking how the NFL draft leaderboard stacked up if we account for the shifts in conference membership this year. The Big Te

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The new SEC and B1G were pretty close to even in terms of number of draft picks in the NFL.

The new 16-team SEC had 73 picks. The new 18-team B1G had 69 picks.

 

[noeynox]

So we are now alone as the lowest paid participant in the CFP system. Gotta think a conference move is coming?

Difference between g5 pay and our pay isn't even enough to pay the FB HC salary.

 

[Rufus]

SEC, Big Ten developing plan to share revenue with players in potential landmark change to college athletics

The model being discussed by college sports' top conferences could go a long way toward settling outstanding lawsuits

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[nelsonmuntz]

SEC, Big Ten developing plan to share revenue with players in potential landmark change to college athletics

The model being discussed by college sports' top conferences could go a long way toward settling outstanding lawsuits

www.cbssports.com

The Big 10 is looking at staggering penalties when the P5 loses this case. Good.

 

[Rufus]

The SEC and B1G are creating brutal schedules for their teams through realignment.

Consider this...........

USC was voted as having the toughest schedule in the B1G for 2024, yet USC does not play arguably the top two teams in the conference - Ohio State and Oregon.

Can you imagine having the toughest schedule in your conference and not playing the top two teams in the conference? It's going to be interesting to see how this all plays out, but it's also why these conferences will dominate the at-large picks for the CFP.

https://thespun.com/pac-12/usc/usc-named-big-ten-program-with-hardest-2024-schedule

 

[Exit 4]

The SEC and B1G are creating brutal schedules for their teams through realignment.

Consider this...........

USC was voted as having the toughest schedule in the B1G for 2024, yet USC does not play arguably the top two teams in the conference - Ohio State and Oregon.

Can you imagine having the toughest schedule in your conference and not playing the top two teams in the conference? It's going to be interesting to see how this all plays out, but it's also why these conferences will dominate the at-large picks for the CFP.

https://thespun.com/pac-12/usc/usc-named-big-ten-program-with-hardest-2024-schedule

It would be smart to add schools like UConn and Kansas. Add to the football Ws and yet also finally bring some legit college basketball chops to a struggling field. They got the power football they need already.

 

[Rufus]

It would be smart to add schools like UConn and Kansas. Add to the football Ws and yet also finally bring some legit college basketball chops to a struggling field. They got the power football they need already.

I think basketball is currently undervalued in conference payouts. Once everything is hashed out with football rules, I think basketball is next on the docket. How much money can an expanded March Madness bring in, especially if the NCAA is pushed out of the equation? Maybe not as valuable as football, but definitely much more valuable than today.

And if it does prove valuable enough for the B1G, then UConn, Kansas, Arizona, UNC, Duke, and Syracuse all have to be potential expansion targets. Right now, only UNC makes that list.

So far, only Maryland and UCLA have been additions benefitting basketball for the B1G, and that was more coincidental than intentional.

 

[buddy]

I think basketball is currently undervalued in conference payouts. Once everything is hashed out with football rules, I think basketball is next on the docket. How much money can an expanded March Madness bring in, especially if the NCAA is pushed out of the equation? Maybe not as valuable as football, but definitely much more valuable than today.

And if it does prove valuable enough for the B1G, then UConn, Kansas, Arizona, UNC, Duke, and Syracuse all have to be potential expansion targets. Right now, only UNC makes that list.

So far, only Maryland and UCLA have been additions benefitting basketball for the B1G, and that was more coincidental than intentional.

The only way Maryland is benefitting the B1G is basketball is by getting beaten by the top tier consistently. At least they can boast that they finished ahead of Rutgers last season.

 

[CL82]

The only way Maryland is benefitting the B1G is basketball is by getting beaten by the top tier consistently. At least they can boast that they finished ahead of Rutgers last season.

Oh, I can think of roughly 75,000,000 reasons they benefited from their move.

 

[buddy]

Oh, I can think of roughly 75,000,000 reasons they benefited from their move.

Rufus said that Big Ten basketball benefited from acquiring Maryland and UCLA. I don't see how they those acquistions have improved Big Ten basketball. I believe you are stating that Maryland is the beneficiary of the move, and you are certainly correct on that. Same goes to UCLA and RU.

 

[CL82]

Rufus said that Big Ten basketball benefited from acquiring Maryland and UCLA. I don't see how they those acquistions have improved Big Ten basketball. I believe you are stating that Maryland is the beneficiary of the move, and you are certainly correct on that. Same goes to UCLA and RU.

Getting the Big Ten network on the first tier of cable with premium pricing in the DMV and LA markets would seem to be a fairly significant benefit to me. Rutgers brought them first tier pricing in the NYCDMA. That alone was a huge win for them. None of those additions were attempts to improve the quality of play on the field or on the court. They were money grabs, pure and simple, and very strategic ones at that.

 

[Rufus]

The only way Maryland is benefitting the B1G is basketball is by getting beaten by the top tier consistently. At least they can boast that they finished ahead of Rutgers last season.

Maryland has won the B1G Championship in basketball before. At least the regular season. Not sure if they have won the conference tournament or not. It’s a basketball school. Just like UCLA. Every other add has been a football minded school except Rutgers which is neither.

 

[JohnFSilver]

Getting the Big Ten network on the first tier of cable with premium pricing in the DMV and LA markets would seem to be a fairly significant benefit to me. Rutgers brought them first tier pricing in the NYCDMA. That alone was a huge win for them. None of those additions were attempts to improve the quality of play on the field or on the court. They were money grabs, pure and simple, and very strategic ones at that.

The cable bundle is dying. How long will these bundles last? You can’t make a conference move thunking you are going to automatically get carriage.

Sling and YouTube tv don’t have the Yankees in New York. That, without a doubt, means that there is a market for packages they don’t have these fringe college tv stations.

It isn’t going to be size if media market that matters, it will be intensity if fanbase to buy a service that my team is on. The days of my mom paying for Rutgers football on big 10 channel is over.

 

[CL82]

The cable bundle is dying. How long will these bundles last? You can’t make a conference move thunking you are going to automatically get carriage.

Sling and YouTube tv don’t have the Yankees in New York. That, without a doubt, means that there is a market for packages they don’t have these fringe college tv stations.

It isn’t going to be size if media market that matters, it will be intensity if fanbase to buy a service that my team is on. The days of my mom paying for Rutgers football on big 10 channel is over.

The Big 10 Network is a unique situation which will always be an asset either as part of cable bundles or as a separately paid for subscription. For the latter, fan size and intensity will be more relevant than geography.

 

[Rufus]

Big Ten outpaced SEC with $880 million in revenue for 2023 fiscal year with most schools getting $60.5 million

The Big Ten continues to outpace the SEC in total revenue. The league reported almost $880 million and distributed $60.5 million to schools.

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B1G schools received $60.5 million in media rights in fiscal year 2023, except for Rutgers and Maryland as they are still repaying loans. Those 2 schools are inching closer to receiving full shares and earned around $2 million less each than the other 12 schools in 2023.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Big Ten outpaced SEC with $880 million in revenue for 2023 fiscal year with most schools getting $60.5 million

The Big Ten continues to outpace the SEC in total revenue. The league reported almost $880 million and distributed $60.5 million to schools.

www.usatoday.com

B1G schools received $60.5 million in media rights in fiscal year 2023, except for Rutgers and Maryland as they are still repaying loans. Those 2 schools are inching closer to receiving full shares and earned around $2 million less each than the other 12 schools in 2023.

I could not be more excited for the Big 10 and their recent basketball championship. Wait, did they win the championship in men's basketball?

 

[uconnyankee]

I think basketball is currently undervalued in conference payouts. Once everything is hashed out with football rules, I think basketball is next on the docket. How much money can an expanded March Madness bring in, especially if the NCAA is pushed out of the equation? Maybe not as valuable as football, but definitely much more valuable than today.

And if it does prove valuable enough for the B1G, then UConn, Kansas, Arizona, UNC, Duke, and Syracuse all have to be potential expansion targets. Right now, only UNC makes that list.

So far, only Maryland and UCLA have been additions benefitting basketball for the B1G, and that was more coincidental than intentional.

If each game in NCAA is worth $2M, in last two years, UConn has earned BE $24M alone.