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I wish I knew what the end goal of the B1G and SEC to see if that is what they actually end up with.

The SEC’s goal is to eliminate the Big 10, which they will do once the Big 10 is done helping the SEC eliminate the other major conferences.
 
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The SEC’s goal is to eliminate the Big 10, which they will do once the Big 10 is done helping the SEC eliminate the other major conferences.
The Big10 will not be eliminated. If either conference isn't around in 50-100 years, my money is on the SEC going away because of the lack of educational/research focus of the universities themselves and the potential slippage of football as an integral aspect of athletics in America (see boxing).
 
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The Big10 will not be eliminated. If either conference isn't around in 50-100 years, my money is on the SEC going away because of the lack of educational/research focus of the universities themselves and the potential slippage of football as an integral aspect of athletics in America (see boxing).
I dunno. If any place can survive divorcing athletics from the school it's the SEC
 

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Expect the NCAA tournament to expand to probably 76 as well.
 
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The CFP should go to 32 teams and make December the new March Madness. It’s a fair measuring stick for coaches, gets rid of the meaningless minor bowls and gets every region of the country involved in the playoffs. P4 would get more slots for their teams (60%) that have absolutely zero chance of making a 14 team field a realistic chance at making a 32 team field. G5 would get 3-4 teams in.
 
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The CFP should go to 32 teams and make December the new March Madness. It’s a fair measuring stick for coaches, gets rid of the meaningless minor bowls and gets every region of the country involved in the playoffs. P4 would get more slots for their teams (60%) that have absolutely zero chance of making a 14 team field a realistic chance at making a 32 team field. G5 would get 3-4 teams in.
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Well, it's official.


Highlights....

The memorandum of understanding guarantees that the field will have at least 12 teams in 2026 and beyond, but sources indicate there is a strong preference for a 14-team field that includes the five highest-ranked conference champions and the next nine highest-ranked teams. Sources caution the exact format is not done yet, and the Big Ten and SEC will have the bulk of control over that, but others will be protected by parameters that have been put in place that can't be altered.

The commissioners and Notre Dame agreed that the conference champions from the ACC, Big Ten, SEC, Big 12 and the highest-ranked Group of 5 champion would earn a playoff berth, and Notre Dame will have protections that will survive regardless of the ultimate format. With those iron-clad guarantees, the other commissioners and Notre Dame leadership surrendered the bulk of the control over the ultimate format to the SEC and Big Ten as "part of the give-and-take," according to a source.

The financial distribution for the expected 14-team playoff will look radically different that its playoff predecessor. On an annual basis, for example, the Big Ten and SEC will be making more than $21 million per school, a number that's up from the nearly $5.5 million the Power Five leagues are currently being paid.

In the ACC, the schools will get more than $13 million annually and the Big 12 will get more than $12 million per school. Notre Dame is expected to get more than $12 million as well, and sources tell ESPN there will be a financial incentive for any independent team that reaches the CFP. (There will no longer be a participation bonus for any of the other leagues - a detail that was frustrating to some leaders in the Group of 5.)

The Group of Five schools' annual payment will increase to just under $1.8 million from the current $1.5 million. According to multiple sources, American Athletic Conference commissioner Mike Aresco was the most outspoken critic of the plan but wasn't able to garner enough support from other commissioners to fight it.

The vast disparity in revenue from top to bottom has already elicited discontent and pushback from schools outside of the Big Ten and SEC. To help alleviate some of those concerns, sources said a "look-in" clause for 2028 has been added to give the commissioners and Notre Dame leadership a chance to reevaluate the contractual agreements based on how every league has performed to that point. There's also a clause that permits that timeline to be accelerated if there is "material realignment" again.
 
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Other highlights from this article......

There is an additional performance bonus available only to independents for making the CFP field; Notre Dame would receive an additional $6 million for making the Playoff, putting its payout within striking distance of the Big Ten and SEC in those years.


Percentages:

B1G - 29%
SEC - 29%
ACC - 17% (my prediction: will be lowered after they are plundered by the B1G and SEC)
Big 12 - 15%
Group of 5 - 9%
Independents, FCS, etc. - 1%


Other comparisons:

B1G and SEC - over $21 million per school
Notre Dame (in years it makes the CFP) - over $18 million
ACC (for now) - over $13 million per school
Big 12 - over $12 million per school
Notre Dame (in years it does not make the CFP) - over $12 million
Group of 5 - just under $1.8 million

I'm assuming UConn (and Washington State and Oregon State) will also receive just under $1.8 million each, but I can't find that written anywhere as of yet.
 
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"According to Pac-12 sources, Washington State and Oregon State are slated to earn just $360,000 as independents in the new contract -- just one-fifth of what the Group of 5 schools would make per year in the new agreement."

So unless UConn joins a conference, our CFP payment will be $360k? Guessing we're going to join a conference, then.
 
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"According to Pac-12 sources, Washington State and Oregon State are slated to earn just $360,000 as independents in the new contract -- just one-fifth of what the Group of 5 schools would make per year in the new agreement."

So unless UConn joins a conference, our CFP payment will be $360k? Guessing we're going to join a conference, then.

Easier said than done. The best-case scenario is an invite to the ACC after the big brands leave, or the Big 12 decides to go after northeast basketball. Next best would be a football-only invite to the American. The Mountain West (likely new PAC-12) football only invite would be the next best option. The MAC has already been on record as not wanting football-only members. They kicked out UMass as a football only member because of that, only for UMass to agree to join in all sports a decade later. I have no idea where Conference USA or the Sun Belt stand on football only members. Sun Belt football would be more exciting out of those two options.
 
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Here's a question I can't find an answer to yet..........

Let's say Notre Dame qualifies for the CFP. They earn $6 million in additional revenue for that. Where does that $6 million come from? Does ESPN pay extra in those years? Is it taken from others and redistributed to Notre Dame? The same question for paying Washington State, Oregon State and UConn if they join a conference........Where does the extra money come from to go from paying them $360,000 as independents to the nearly $1.8 million a year if they join the G5 or $12/$13 million if they join the Big 12/ACC?
 

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Okay, so basically we get enough to buy lunch through a vending machine.

 
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Easier said than done. The best-case scenario is an invite to the ACC after the big brands leave, or the Big 12 decides to go after northeast basketball. Next best would be a football-only invite to the American. The Mountain West (likely new PAC-12) football only invite would be the next best option. The MAC has already been on record as not wanting football-only members. They kicked out UMass as a football only member because of that, only for UMass to agree to join in all sports a decade later. I have no idea where Conference USA or the Sun Belt stand on football only members. Sun Belt football would be more exciting out of those two options.
UConn football only now vs UMass football only a decade ago is not terribly comparable
 
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"According to Pac-12 sources, Washington State and Oregon State are slated to earn just $360,000 as independents in the new contract -- just one-fifth of what the Group of 5 schools would make per year in the new agreement."

So unless UConn joins a conference, our CFP payment will be $360k? Guessing we're going to join a conference, then.
is it true that indie schools are getting less than G5 schools?
 
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Yes, by about $1.5M annually
ok, i kind of assumed with the numbers flying around that'd be an equal share and that the division through just hadn't been done.
 

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