B1G Ramblings

[CL82]

I could see Utah as #20 for the B1G. But my guess is the spot is reserved for UNC.

I would agree, but for UNC's public dalliance with the SEC.

 

[ZooCougar]

I would agree, but for UNC's public dalliance with the SEC.

UNC may have a choice. I think in a few years the primacy and dominance of B1G make the choice easier.

 

[FfldCntyFan]

One thing that everyone needs to realize is that the B1G & SEC are each playing a very long game. It could be fifteen, twenty years before each has completed their expansions, which I believe will leave both at 24 members.

I imagine that Utah will be in consideration at some point down the road and Arizona & Arizona St are also in slightly better positions than most of the remaining B-12. ND is going to hold things up as their run last season added a dozen years or so to their ability to remain independent in football. They aren't joining until they have no choice and the P2 can't close out everyone else until ND is in the P2.

 

[UConnDan97]

for many UConn fans and about 17 B1G programs. in all seriousness, it would be great to have rutgers in our future eastern conference, for us and for rutgers

That's the great irony that has been evident for numerous schools.

We've been hurt by conference realignment, there's no doubt about that. But Rutgers has been hurt (richer, but hurt). Syracuse has been hurt. BC has been hurt, West Virginia has been hurt. And up until last year, Miami had been hurt.

These are schools that not only lowered their football prospects by leaving, but their other sports franchises as well in my opinion...

 

[ZooCougar]

That's the great irony that has been evident for numerous schools.

We've been hurt by conference realignment, there's no doubt about that. But Rutgers has been hurt (richer, but hurt). Syracuse has been hurt. BC has been hurt, West Virginia has been hurt. And up until last year, Miami had been hurt.

These are schools that not only lowered their football prospects by leaving, but their other sports franchises as well in my opinion...

I heard recently that Syracuse gutted their basketball NIL budget in favor of football.

It may not be accurate, but they don't have a prayer when it comes to getting to the same level of national prominence in football as their basketball could potentially. So cannibalizing basketball in this era just seems kind of foolish. I mean I am football first fan and even I can recognize the folly in that.

It's like that recent episode of South Park, the more money they make, the bigger their nut gets. They are going to grind themselves into irrelevance.

Rutgers should be swimming in money. They don't have any excuse. The place must be run by fools.

 

[UConnDan97]

I heard recently that Syracuse gutted their basketball NIL budget in favor of football.

It may not be accurate, but they don't have a prayer when it comes to getting to the same level of national prominence in football as their basketball could potentially. So cannibalizing basketball in this era just seems kind of foolish. I mean I am football first fan and even I can recognize the folly in that.

It's like that recent episode of South Park, the more money they make, the bigger their nut gets. They are going to grind themselves into irrelevance.

Rutgers should be swimming in money. They don't have any excuse. The place must be run by fools.

You're correct that Syracuse almost certainly has more chance of resurrecting their basketball team to the top vs their football team. It's been a very long time since Jim Brown.

But Syracuse knows what every other college program also knows: any future realignment will be football-driven, in the same way that the last realignments were. And to that end, Syracuse is trying to make the "long term play".

Imagine if UConn was put on the same financial field as these other clowns?? It would be night and day...

 

[ZooCougar]

But Syracuse knows what every other college program also knows: any future realignment will be football-driven, in the same way that the last realignments were. And to that end, Syracuse is trying to make the "long term play".

That ship has sailed. For UConn and Syracuse. UConn should have invested like crazy people on football in the 2010s when it still would have done some good. Heck, we should have outright lied and cheated. Then they would have known we were serious. Instead we went into budget friendly mode and hired a cadaver, a clown and a loser to coach our team because they were "affordable".

Where Syracuse is is the highest they will ever get in the ladder. Maybe if the B1G expands to 30 they will have a chance.

 

[UConnDan97]

That ship has sailed. For UConn and Syracuse. UConn should have invested like crazy people on football in the 2010s when it still would have done some good. Heck, we should have outright lied and cheated. Then they would have known we were serious. Instead we went into budget friendly mode and hired a cadaver, a clown and a loser to coach our team because they were "affordable".

Where Syracuse is is the highest they will ever get in the ladder. Maybe if the B1G expands to 30 they will have a chance.

That is if 4 becomes 2 (B1G and SEC).

If 4 becomes 3, then they're trying to ensure a better chance of survival than Wake, UCF, etc.

It's also why we're trying to invest in football; to try to get into the 4 over the next five years...

 

[ZooCougar]

That is if 4 becomes 2 (B1G and SEC).

If 4 becomes 3, then they're trying to ensure a better chance of survival than Wake, UCF, etc.

It's also why we're trying to invest in football; to try to get into the 4 over the next five years...

It's obviously going to be 2.

 

[UConnDan97]

It's obviously going to be 2.

That's not obvious to me. At least not in the next 10 years. You can't plan past that, either.

If it's only 2, then they either need a mechanism to freeze out large name-brand programs (FSU, Clemson, Baylor, etc.), or they need to find a mechanism to freeze out existing members (Vandy, Northwestern, Mississippi State, Rutgers, etc)...

 

[B1GEast]

Big is not dumping Rutgers, that's wishful thinking.

I don't think it will happen either. There have been articles written about contraction.

 

[CL82]

That ship has sailed. For UConn and Syracuse. UConn should have invested like crazy people on football in the 2010s when it still would have done some good. Heck, we should have outright lied and cheated. Then they would have known we were serious. Instead we went into budget friendly mode and hired a cadaver, a clown and a loser to coach our team because they were "affordable".

Where Syracuse is is the highest they will ever get in the ladder. Maybe if the B1G expands to 30 they will have a chance.

I feel like that was probably already too late in the investment needed to be no later than the 1990s.