As an aside, does anyone in Cos Cob (Greenwich, for the uninitiated) know you are "NickyNewark?" If so, it's another example of UCONN's FF County problem.
B1G, ACC battle for New York
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As an aside, does anyone in Cos Cob (Greenwich, for the uninitiated) know you are "NickyNewark?" If so, it's another example of UCONN's FF County problem.
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Honest to God! I had no idea of Rutgers popularity up there. This has been educational to me.
In my neck of the woods way down here in Tallahassee, we never hear of Rutgers nor really see Rutgers in a big match up. Rutgers is like the tree that falls in a deserted forest.
If I hadn't tuned into this board, I would never have known that Rutgers had such a viewing audience.
Actually I finally found someone to put on ignore.
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I guess things could be worse. In my neck of the woods we don't hear much about Tallahassee. Hear a lot about Gainesville however.
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Honestly...We do not have much coverage of Rutgers down here at all.
And you guys probably don't open the paper and read about Troy and UAB...which do receive coverage here.
We also don't get much coverage of Indiana, Iowa State, etc...only Michigan, Ohio State or whoever is in the Big Ten big boy seat that year.
No reason to get everything in a wad...I really had no idea that Rutgers was NY's team. While I knew that Rutgers was in New Jersey, nobody here talks about Rutgers and NY. We all say that NY and New England are NFL guys more than college. That is the word on the southern circuit, rightly or wrongly.
And you guys probably don't open the paper and read about Troy and UAB...which do receive coverage here.
We also don't get much coverage of Indiana, Iowa State, etc...only Michigan, Ohio State or whoever is in the Big Ten big boy seat that year.
No reason to get everything in a wad...I really had no idea that Rutgers was NY's team. While I knew that Rutgers was in New Jersey, nobody here talks about Rutgers and NY. We all say that NY and New England are NFL guys more than college. That is the word on the southern circuit, rightly or wrongly.
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I guess things could be worse. In my neck of the woods we don't hear much about Tallahassee. Hear a lot about Gainesville however.
LOL...How I know...I was sitting in the Shoe in Columbus when the stadium announcer kept referring to us as "Florida".
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You are embarrassing yourself. The attendance was 30,028 (sorry, I undercut your NYC attendance by 3), so there is no way that Rutgers brought anywhere near 30,000 fans despite the game being about one mile from NJ and 40 miles from campus.
As for the Big 10's study, it clearly wasn't dependent on Rutgers popularity East of the Hudson. It was based on getting Michigan, OSU, Penn State, etc. regular exposure in the NYC market. If Rutgers was truly popular there they would have been able to carry the market for the Big East and the league, which gained very little from Rutgers membership, might still be around.
As for my interests, they aren't particularly relevant to this discussion, but they are UConn (flagship U. of my adopted state), Cornell (alma mater) and Army (several relatives).
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We've had more coverage than we want to have here lately. Basketball Coach yelling at his players with gay slurs. New Athletic Director calling her women's basketball players sluts and whores at a former school. Athletic Director gets fired. I'm actually tired of hearing about Rutgers. It's died down some now, but the constant barrage of this stuff was annoying.
As for sports, this past year Rutgers played Virginia Tech, who gets on TV around here, in a football game. It's probably the only time I've seen Rutgers shown in the sports bars around here. I don't think I've ever seen a Rutgers basketball game on TV not that I've sought the games out. And Saturday is my day to go to the sports bar and watch many college football and basketball games all afternoon long when I can. And there are a lot of people who live in the Richmond area from New Jersey.
I have seen a lot of Connecticut coverage especially with basketball, both men's and women's. Football not so much. Sometimes on Friday night they come on for football.
We get a lot of Temple basketball coverage around here too. It's primarily because Richmond and now VCU are in the Atlantic 10. We'll see what happens when Temple moves to the AAC.
Wow, didn't realize anyone was in a battle for us.
Unfortunately, expansion seems to be done
But Win/Loss in football over the last five years is 24-37. If it hasn't hurt, has it helped?
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I guess your reading skills are not good.
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That doesn't have anything to do with Virginia Tech. That's all due to Al Groh, and the period of trying to recover from Al Groh.
We'll see - I doubt it, however. When the B1G and the ACC figure out NYC, UConn will land in either one. Here's to it being the B1G.
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Again - we'll see. Long term the B1G is going to be the much more stable conference, IMO. Further, it doesn't have a resentment-causing relationship with ND. That move, in and of itself, cheapened the ACC relative to the other 4 P-conferences.
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UConn is in an interesting position in terms of basketball. If the ACC grabbed UConn, it would forever end any discussion about being the premier basketball conference. It is the premier conference right now. But with UConn, it would seal that distinction.
UConn, UNC, Duke, Louisville, NC St, Syracuse, Pitt, Wake Forest, Virginia, Florida St, Georgia Tech, Miami, ND, Clemson, Virginia Tech, BC.
The first 5 teams have won multiple championships.
That would be a much better lineup than Indiana, Michigan St, Michigan, Ohio St, Illinois, Wisconsin, Purdue, Maryland, Minnesota, Iowa, Nebraska, Penn St., Northwestern, Rutgers.
But look what happens in this discussion if you flip UConn to the B1G.
UNC, Duke, Louisville versus UConn, Indiana, Michigan St.
NC State, Syracuse, Pitt versus Michigan, Ohio St., Maryland
Wake Forest, Florida St, ND versus Illinois, Wisconsin, Purdue
It's not until you get to the lower tier that the ACC establishes an edge over the B1G.
Virginia, Georgia Tech, Miami versus Minnesota, Iowa, Nebraska.
UConn is literally the tipping point between the two conferences.
If the B1G wanted to land a haymaker against the ACC, it would add Kansas and UConn.
The B1G would then become the best bball conference in college ball.
UConn, UNC, Duke, Louisville, NC St, Syracuse, Pitt, Wake Forest, Virginia, Florida St, Georgia Tech, Miami, ND, Clemson, Virginia Tech, BC.
The first 5 teams have won multiple championships.
That would be a much better lineup than Indiana, Michigan St, Michigan, Ohio St, Illinois, Wisconsin, Purdue, Maryland, Minnesota, Iowa, Nebraska, Penn St., Northwestern, Rutgers.
But look what happens in this discussion if you flip UConn to the B1G.
UNC, Duke, Louisville versus UConn, Indiana, Michigan St.
NC State, Syracuse, Pitt versus Michigan, Ohio St., Maryland
Wake Forest, Florida St, ND versus Illinois, Wisconsin, Purdue
It's not until you get to the lower tier that the ACC establishes an edge over the B1G.
Virginia, Georgia Tech, Miami versus Minnesota, Iowa, Nebraska.
UConn is literally the tipping point between the two conferences.
If the B1G wanted to land a haymaker against the ACC, it would add Kansas and UConn.
The B1G would then become the best bball conference in college ball.
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PITT will not be a power in the ACC unless they can adjust their style of play under Dixon. PITT's bigs play football under the boards and they are recruited that way as well. That is why they generally don't go deep in the Tournament most years. Referees who work games in other conferences don't let the banging go quite a much as the Tim Higgins and Jim Burrs of the Big East and PITT gets into foul trouble.
I don't think Calhoun got quite enough credit for being able to coach multiple styles and using the aggressiveness (or passiveness) of UConn's opponents against them. Ollie seemed to do that as well. Here's hoping it continues.
I don't think Calhoun got quite enough credit for being able to coach multiple styles and using the aggressiveness (or passiveness) of UConn's opponents against them. Ollie seemed to do that as well. Here's hoping it continues.
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I have always thought of the BE as a "physical" basketball conference and Kansas and the Big 12 as more finesse.
Way, way back in the day, Georgetown with John Thompson coaching and Patrick Ewing under the basket, was knocking bodies around. I think that even though that was dcades ago, it set a tone for play.
Kurt Rambis with the Knicks was an embodiement of that eastern style of physical basketball.
Way, way back in the day, Georgetown with John Thompson coaching and Patrick Ewing under the basket, was knocking bodies around. I think that even though that was dcades ago, it set a tone for play.
Kurt Rambis with the Knicks was an embodiement of that eastern style of physical basketball.
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I'd rank the former six power conferences like this in terms of Physical -> Finesse:
Big East
Big Ten
Big 12
SEC
ACC
Pac 10
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Maybe switch the ACC and SEC, but that is my opinion.
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In the last several title games....
Louisville wins over Michigan...Michigan was fairly robust physically, Louisville countered with speed, passing and shooting
Kentucky over Kansas....Kansas was less physical
UConn over Butler....UConn was much more muscular
Duke over Butler....ditto
UNC over Michigan State.....Tyler Hansbrough was tough to move out
Louisville wins over Michigan...Michigan was fairly robust physically, Louisville countered with speed, passing and shooting
Kentucky over Kansas....Kansas was less physical
UConn over Butler....UConn was much more muscular
Duke over Butler....ditto
UNC over Michigan State.....Tyler Hansbrough was tough to move out
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I would say that UConn was more athletic than muscular. Remember, our top defender in the paint was Roscoe Smith that game, and he was a skinny twig. UConn also beat Kentucky and Arizona with superior athleticism. Kentucky had guys like Terrence Jones and Harrelson at PF. While UConn had Oriakhi and Oriakhi played great in the F8 and F4, it was Roscoe Smith who was the defensive star in the championship.
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Plus, without a significant NY presence (which it has already begun to lose) Pitt won't be able to mine NYC for its talent as much.
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Lamb was a pretty good co-star on the perimeter. Gave Mack all sorts of problems with his length. Mack chucked in a couple tough, but harmless, threes in the last two minutes (and one at the half over Beverly) to make his final stats look a little better, but Lamb locked him down.
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