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It's funny how the contrarian posters will pick and choose stats to make their side look good. When you lose your starting QB, starting RB and 4 starting linemen like CMU did in 2013 you get a lousy offense.

So I guess we should have gotten an OC from a P5 team listed below. Seriously?

In 2012 their offense was ranked 64th (I believe passing was 25th) and the following teams had worse offenses than CMU in 2012:

Wisc
California
Pitt
TCU
Michigan
Va Tech
South Carolina
Stanford
LSU
Kansas
Missouri
BCU
Florida
Rutgers
Minnesota
Auburn


2012 National Leaders Total Offense - All Games through 01/07/2013
http://www.cfbstats.com/2012/leader/national/team/offense/split01/category10/sort01.html
 
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The issue is that Diaco has never been the head coach and this is his first time putting together a staff. Now he may know, like and trust these people. They may be wildly successful as a staff together. Or, it could go the other way. But, on face value alone, if Cummings is true as OC, it has some hollowness to it and certainly is not the splash people wanted. But check the thread below about Cummings from the Chips message board. And the hire from ND, a GA is not the same as hiring a position coach from ND.
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=340&f=2793&t=12461809

Are the chicken little's neglecting to read this link? Seems like a majority of the posters think he is far and away their best coach. I think Diaco, and even the CMU fans, know this guy better than us.
 
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Little comparison between our recruiting and Central Michigan. I suppose i'll give him a shot with some better talent and his ability to call his own plays.
 
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Little comparison between our recruiting and Central Michigan. I suppose i'll give him a shot with some better talent and his ability to call his own plays.

I'm not getting the comparison. We are in a conference where 90% of our games will be on national TV and we have a history (Big East) that is larger than the MAC.

You can expect recruiting from any coach who comes from the MAC to get better results based on TV alone.
 
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Can someone succinctly post today's news in one post so I don't have to read all 6 pages? Looks like I missed a bunch of news while at work.
 
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90% is more like maybe 50%
I guess i'm just trying to justify we have more talent and ability. We can't compare the 2 schools. So I suppose i'm not going to be too hard on this hire. He could turn out great. No more NEGATIVE ENERGY! lol
 

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Can someone succinctly post today's news in one post so I don't have to read all 6 pages? Looks like I missed a bunch of news while at work.

Des Connor teased us with a guess as to who our next OC will be.

90% of the coaches on The Boneyard immediately went on the attack.

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Des Connor teased us with a guess as to who our next OC will be.

90% of the coaches on The Boneyard immediately went on the attack.

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So needless to say we still have no idea?!
 

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Can someone succinctly post today's news in one post so I don't have to read all 6 pages? Looks like I missed a bunch of news while at work.

Do you want a neck massage too?
 
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@BNich and others who may be trying to keep score.....

Diaco's Current Staff (Not all confirmed officially)

Mike Foley retained as O Line/TE Coach?
Mike Cummings from C. Michigan new OC
Ernest Jones from ND new RB Coach
Josh Reardon from ND new D Backs Coach
Don Patterson from Buffalo new Assoc. HC/QB coach

Did I miss anyone?
 
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@BNich and others who may be trying to keep score.....

Diaco's Current Staff (Not all confirmed officially)

Mike Foley retained as O Line/TE Coach?
Mike Cummings from C. Michigan new OC
Ernest Jones from ND new RB Coach
Josh Reardon from ND new D Backs Coach
Don Patterson from Buffalo new Assoc. HC/QB coach

Did I miss anyone?
Thank you!
 
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Most of these guys don't seem to have a track record, or at least a recent track record of successfully recruiting 3-4 star guys (see chart above). Either they will need to adjust quickly or we will have to prove it on the field in the next 2 years in order to elevate our talent to the level of of other P5 teams and get us to the top of the AAC on the field. It's just another challenge among many that may or may not be mitigated by more high profile P5 hires. As far as coaching ability have to trust HCBD at this point.
 
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There is a rivals article on Trey Rutherford, where he alludes toa coach shearer. We figure out who he is yet?
 
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There is a rivals article on Trey Rutherford, where he alludes toa coach shearer. We figure out who he is yet?
He was a GA that was made TE coach under TJ.....his current status? No idea....
 
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It was a different story in 2012, when the Chippewas ran one of the best offenses in the MAC, using a balanced attack to average 6.2 yards per play, register almost 400 yards a game and score over 30 points in 10 games CMU finished 7-6 in 2012 with a win over Iowa. Cummings is a Buffalo grad and got his masters from Central Michigan.

From Des' article. That sounds pretty good.
 
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Most of these guys don't seem to have a track record, or at least a recent track record of successfully recruiting 3-4 star guys (see chart above). Either they will need to adjust quickly or we will have to prove it on the field in the next 2 years in order to elevate our talent to the level of of other P5 teams and get us to the top of the AAC on the field. It's just another challenge among many that may or may not be mitigated by more high profile P5 hires.

One of the things I think we need to recognize is MAC coaches don't get many 3-4 star recruits. But what they appear to be good at is coaching up talent. I think HCBD and staff will get their share of 3 star players, but it appears he is bringing in coaches who can teach and coach up.

What the boneyard continues to prove is there are many D 1 coaches on here that know better than Susan Herbst, Warde Manual and now HCBD.

I've pointed out plenty of legitimate positives with these coaching hires. Still waiting for responses to:

Top 25 teams (offense) whose OC would join us if asked.

What P5 position coaches would be better than HCBD's choices for OC and why they would be better.

There is a lot of info on here about the new coaches. I get the feeling some people skim the info and then comment.
 
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It's funny how the contrarian posters will pick and choose stats to make their side look good. When you lose your starting QB, starting RB and 4 starting linemen like CMU did in 2013 you get a lousy offense.

So I guess we should have gotten an OC from a P5 team listed below. Seriously?

In 2012 their offense was ranked 64th (I believe passing was 25th) and the following teams had worse offenses than CMU in 2012:

Wisc
California
Pitt
TCU
Michigan
Va Tech
South Carolina
Stanford
LSU
Kansas
Missouri
BCU
Florida
Rutgers
Minnesota
Auburn


2012 National Leaders Total Offense - All Games through 01/07/2013
http://www.cfbstats.com/2012/leader/national/team/offense/split01/category10/sort01.html

C. Michigan passing offense was ranked 25th in 2011. In 2012 they were ranked 51st.
 
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C. Michigan passing offense was ranked 25th in 2011. In 2012 they were ranked 51st.

That's what you picked up out of my post? Didn't you say HCBD should have chosen a OC with a few years of a top 25 offense? Who would be the candidates? I've been know to be wrong so if it wasn't you disregard.
 
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That's what you picked up out of my post? Didn't you say HCBD should have chosen a OC with a few years of a top 25 offense? Who would be the candidates? I've been know to be wrong so if it wasn't you disregard.

You stated that the Chippewas pass offense was ranked 25th in 2012, but they were 51st I just wanted to correct you on that one.
 

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You stated that the Chippewas pass offense was ranked 25th in 2012, but they were 51st I just wanted to correct you on that one.

Alabama had the #19 offense last year & #44 offense this year.
 
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Check out this energy vampire.

@NoEscalators: Sigh RT @BobbyBigWheel: F+ rankings of CMU's offense when UConn's new coordinator was in charge there: 89, 78, 73, 110

Can anyone decipher what he means? In Diaco we trust!
 
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