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As disgusting as it is, there are 3 ACC teams in the Elite 8

superjohn said:
Yikes, did you forget UConn is in the Big East?
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Of course not. But we haven’t been showing or living up to our blue blood status the last few years, and Nova continues to do so even as we speak.
 
BigErnMcCracken said:
I’m curious what makes Arizona a blue blood in your eyes.
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Consistency, for one. They stay relevant and have always been in the mix conference wise. And maybe “blue blood” the way I’m describing it is different from how it’s usually applied.
Actually, I think there are 5 recognized traditional blue bloods- Duke, UNC, Kansas, Kentucky, and maybe UCLA.
But I’m talking more in terms of conferences, where the list gets a bit longer.
 
freescooter said:
What it means is that despite an off year, the ACC remains an elite BASKETBALL conference. UNC replaced the head coach and started out shaky but improved later in the season. Miami has a really good coach and a senior laden team. Dook is Dook. Despite all the trash NOOB boys talk about them, when the rubber meets the road, they have multiple top teams. We have Villanova.
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Copy and pasting this same message one more time I see
 
BGesus4 said:
Only saving grace would be how devastating it would be to Duke fans to have coach K’s last game be a loss to unc
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That would be great. It would be even better if St. Peter's ended his career. Exactly 0 people would have guessed that.
 
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Jbirdp5 said:
Copy and pasting this same message one more time I see
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Some of you guys are a riot. If the NOOB had 3 teams in the elite 8 and at least 1 in the Final 4 you would be jumping up and down about what a great conference the NOOB is. The ACC does it, in an off year for them, no less, and it is just the luck of the draw. They didn’t have to play great teams, you know, like New Mexico State. LOL. The big difference is that that ACC has multiple teams can be good in any given year. Since 2014, They have sent 4 different teams to the Final Four. 3 different teams have won The NOOB has 1.

Well thank heavens for Villanova. Far and away the best team in the NOOB as they have proven yet again. If they played FBS football, they would probably be in the ACC right now.
 
August_West said:
Here’s how bad the ACC was in regular season : Duke did not face a top 25 team from December on. That’s a crazy stat for the ACC. But they are showing out in tourney, so the joke is now on everyone else.
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Those bastards are gonna put 3 in the Final Four, aren't they?
 
freescooter said:
Some of you guys are a riot. If the NOOB had 3 teams in the elite 8 and at least 1 in the Final 4 you would be jumping up and down about what a great conference the NOOB is. The ACC does it, in an off year for them, no less, and it is just the luck of the draw. They didn’t have to play great teams, you know, like New Mexico State. LOL. The big difference is that that ACC has multiple teams can be good in any given year. Since 2014, They have sent 4 different teams to the Final Four. 3 different teams have won The NOOB has 1.

Well thank heavens for Villanova. Far and away the best team in the NOOB as they have proven yet again. If they played FBS football, they would probably be in the ACC right now.
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You put this same message in every thread, you just reiterated the same points from your main post in this again. We all know how you feel, do you find it necessary to repeat it over and over and over again?
 
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Jbirdp5 said:
You put this same message in every thread, you just reiterated the same points from your main post in this again. We all know how you feel, do you find it necessary to repeat it over and over and over again?
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That is in the nature of compulsive behavior.
 
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superjohn said:
The Big East has one team in the final 4, you're so terrible at this.
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It’s Villanova. That’s like the WCC arguing that they are as good as the ACC because Gonzaga got to the Final Four. Villanova is a National Program despite its conference. Gonzaga is a national program despite its conference.

It is a good thing Miami lost. Otherwise this board might explode with excuses.

Look the New Big East is fine. Not a great league but fine. Fun because other than Villanova, it has a bunch of pretty equal teams. Not great. Not awful. Well except Georgetown and DePaul. It has one shining star. One team that could be classified as a Program, to use Franceses’s term. Since the founding of the New Big East, The difference between it and, say the ACC is that in any given year there are 4 or five ACC teams that can win it all. The evidence is that UNC, Duke and Virginia have in fact won it all. Syracuse and UNC have made it to the Final Four. Now add UNC and Duke again. This is the second time the ACC has had 2 Final Four teams in that period. . If you don’t see the difference between having multiple possible national champions and having only 1 I really don’t know how to explain it to you. If Villanova has a rebuilding year, what other New Big East team takes its place? Not as league champ, but as serious national contender. If Duke does, UNC, Virginia, Syracuse, And probably a couple of others have a shot. Let’s just leave it at this. The ACC is a great league. The New Big East has a great Team.
 
freescooter said:
It’s Villanova. That’s like the WCC arguing that they are as good as the ACC because Gonzaga got to the Final Four. Villanova is a National Program despite its conference. Gonzaga is a national program despite its conference.

It is a good thing Miami lost. Otherwise this board might explode with excuses.

Look the New Big East is fine. Not a great league but fine. Fun because other than Villanova, it has a bunch of pretty equal teams. Not great. Not awful. Well except Georgetown and DePaul. It has one shining star. One team that could be classified as a Program, to use Franceses’s term. Since the founding of the New Big East, The difference between it and, say the ACC is that in any given year there are 4 or five ACC teams that can win it all. The evidence is that UNC, Duke and Virginia have in fact won it all. Syracuse and UNC have made it to the Final Four. Now add UNC and Duke again. This is the second time the ACC has had 2 Final Four teams in that period. . If you don’t see the difference between having multiple possible national champions and having only 1 I really don’t know how to explain it to you. If Villanova has a rebuilding year, what other New Big East team takes its place? Not as league champ, but as serious national contender. If Duke does, UNC, Virginia, Syracuse, And probably a couple of others have a shot. Let’s just leave it at this. The ACC is a great league. The New Big East has a great Team.
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I find it odd that you're using Syracuse to support your thesis. Perhaps five years ago, but now?

I also think you're understating the quality of the BE. You claim it's "fine". This word choice is more suitable for the WCC, A10, or American--not one of the elite conferences in college basketball.
 
Tiamat7 said:
I find it odd that you're using Syracuse to support your thesis. Perhaps five years ago, but now?

I also think you're understating the quality of the BE. You claim it's "fine". This word choice is more suitable for the WCC, A10, or American--not one of the elite conferences in college basketball.
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Fine is fine
Sucks is sucks
Take it easy,
According to the NCAA, P5 is elite. The NBE is the best of all the others
Not my definition or my view but it cant be denied
 
freescooter said:
It’s Villanova. That’s like the WCC arguing that they are as good as the ACC because Gonzaga got to the Final Four. Villanova is a National Program despite its conference. Gonzaga is a national program despite its conference.

It is a good thing Miami lost. Otherwise this board might explode with excuses.

Look the New Big East is fine. Not a great league but fine. Fun because other than Villanova, it has a bunch of pretty equal teams. Not great. Not awful. Well except Georgetown and DePaul. It has one shining star. One team that could be classified as a Program, to use Franceses’s term. Since the founding of the New Big East, The difference between it and, say the ACC is that in any given year there are 4 or five ACC teams that can win it all. The evidence is that UNC, Duke and Virginia have in fact won it all. Syracuse and UNC have made it to the Final Four. Now add UNC and Duke again. This is the second time the ACC has had 2 Final Four teams in that period. . If you don’t see the difference between having multiple possible national champions and having only 1 I really don’t know how to explain it to you. If Villanova has a rebuilding year, what other New Big East team takes its place? Not as league champ, but as serious national contender. If Duke does, UNC, Virginia, Syracuse, And probably a couple of others have a shot. Let’s just leave it at this. The ACC is a great league. The New Big East has a great Team.
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When are you gonna get over it?

Didn't Villanova, UConn, Georgetown, and Marquette all win it all at some point? It all the depends the timeframe you measure from.

What's the beef? ACC has Duke/UNC on top, and few other pograms behind. Big East has Villanova/UConn as recent powers, and a few followers that are good. Is your argument That the ACC is better in its current configuration than the the Big East? - fine, who cares? Even if the Big East is Top 3 that's still pretty darn good and 3/32 conference is elite in the grand scheme of things. The most important thing is that the Big East's ceiling allows for national championships. I also think that you focus too much on F4/Chips to determine who is a great league. I think leagues that have strong following, tradition, winning culture matter and the Big East definitely checks off all the marks there too

The B1G, PAC12, SEC, have all struggled in recent years. Does that make them any less valuable?
 
freescooter said:
It’s Villanova. That’s like the WCC arguing that they are as good as the ACC because Gonzaga got to the Final Four. Villanova is a National Program despite its conference. Gonzaga is a national program despite its conference.

It is a good thing Miami lost. Otherwise this board might explode with excuses.

Look the New Big East is fine. Not a great league but fine. Fun because other than Villanova, it has a bunch of pretty equal teams. Not great. Not awful. Well except Georgetown and DePaul. It has one shining star. One team that could be classified as a Program, to use Franceses’s term. Since the founding of the New Big East, The difference between it and, say the ACC is that in any given year there are 4 or five ACC teams that can win it all. The evidence is that UNC, Duke and Virginia have in fact won it all. Syracuse and UNC have made it to the Final Four. Now add UNC and Duke again. This is the second time the ACC has had 2 Final Four teams in that period. . If you don’t see the difference between having multiple possible national champions and having only 1 I really don’t know how to explain it to you. If Villanova has a rebuilding year, what other New Big East team takes its place? Not as league champ, but as serious national contender. If Duke does, UNC, Virginia, Syracuse, And probably a couple of others have a shot. Let’s just leave it at this. The ACC is a great league. The New Big East has a great Team.
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I don’t understand why some fans get so hot and bothered with excuses to dismiss the ACC. I hate them too, but I’m not a delusional fool either. You give the devil his due, tip your cap and keep it moving. To do otherwise at this point is to be in deep denial, and you just end up looking stupid.
 
freescooter said:
It’s Villanova. That’s like the WCC arguing that they are as good as the ACC because Gonzaga got to the Final Four. Villanova is a National Program despite its conference. Gonzaga is a national program despite its conference.

It is a good thing Miami lost. Otherwise this board might explode with excuses.

Look the New Big East is fine. Not a great league but fine. Fun because other than Villanova, it has a bunch of pretty equal teams. Not great. Not awful. Well except Georgetown and DePaul. It has one shining star. One team that could be classified as a Program, to use Franceses’s term. Since the founding of the New Big East, The difference between it and, say the ACC is that in any given year there are 4 or five ACC teams that can win it all. The evidence is that UNC, Duke and Virginia have in fact won it all. Syracuse and UNC have made it to the Final Four. Now add UNC and Duke again. This is the second time the ACC has had 2 Final Four teams in that period. . If you don’t see the difference between having multiple possible national champions and having only 1 I really don’t know how to explain it to you. If Villanova has a rebuilding year, what other New Big East team takes its place? Not as league champ, but as serious national contender. If Duke does, UNC, Virginia, Syracuse, And probably a couple of others have a shot. Let’s just leave it at this. The ACC is a great league. The New Big East has a great Team.
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Wait, the evidence is that the Big East only has one team that has won it all?? Are you forgetting the team you are supposedly a fan of?? And possible champions?? I dare say anyone with a 7 seed or better is a possible national champion since, you know, it’s actually happened. Big East had 3 of those teams this year. Your arguments just make zero sense.
 
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People! Whether it's conscious or not, @freescooter just gets off on telling a board full of myopic UConn/Big East fans that their team and conference is overrated, probably because of the reaction he gets when he does it. It doesn't bother me either way, but I am just pointing out that arguing with him only makes the behavior more likely to continue. If you want to convince him he's wrong, you will never get satisfaction. If you want him to shut up, it could happen if everyone stops responding.
 
Not surprised by NC the way they beat Duke last time. All of these teams have the elements needed , great guards.
 
jibsey said:
Not surprised by NC the way they beat Duke last time. All of these teams have the elements needed , great guards.
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Without Bacot, UNC would be sitting in Chapel Hill
Duke goes as far as their forwards take them
I agree that guard play is very important and hard to win without a really good one but the bigs and especially the forwards play just as important roles with these teams.
 
gtcam said:
Without Bacot, UNC would be sitting in Chapel Hill
Duke goes as far as their forwards take them
I agree that guard play is very important and hard to win without a really good one but the bigs and especially the forwards play just as important roles with these teams.
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Brady Manek was also a huge mismatch for St. Peter's....

Malek shot 66.7% from beyond the arc...and 63.6% of his FG's. And grabbed 8 rebounds.

Same against Baylor..Manek's 26 points kept UNC in the game...

But...Bacot's 19 rebounds was insane..
 
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The takes in this thread are super weird, sure there is a controversial often biased poster putting forth the ACC's potential, but facts remain the ACC got 2 schools in the final four & will put one in national championship game:
1. WE all say the NCAA is what matters, to argue that putting teams in FF isn't that great b/c the ACC wasn't this good during the regular season is so bizarre it requires a double metaphor of a bunch of ostrich's crawling head first down a backwards thinking rabbit hole.
2. The BE rep has been living off the 3 BE team final four in 1985 FOREVER, yes that was 3 AND part of that legacy is getting two teams in the final & the 'perfect game' Villanova upset which isn't happening this year - nonetheless the ACC earns some discounted yet similar reputation points. Dodged a bullet with the comp to 85 had Miami made it and they surely would have been comped to Nova in 85 if that occured.
3. Much as I hate them, Dook & Coach K built his entire final season narrative about making the final four which is the platinum standard measurement of basketball programs (unrealistic to plot towards gold standard natty) and dook deserves a tip of the cap for getting K this extended moment of farewell bows.
 
billybud said:
Brady Manek was also a huge mismatch for St. Peter's....

Malek shot 66.7% from beyond the arc...and 63.6% of his FG's. And grabbed 8 rebounds.

Same against Baylor..Manek's 26 points kept UNC in the game...

But...Bacot's 19 rebounds was insane..
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Love Manek. Goes without saying that they all have bigs, but Manek can score inside and out.
 
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