Aresco: We are losing multiple schools

[jostar1]

Link?

I think he means this article:

Longhorns Writer Says Texas Won't 'Stand In Way' Of Houston Joining Big 12

“I’m hearing that if they’re going to expand, it’s most likely going to be by four rather than two,” Brown said, “because of provisions in the TV contract that call for the TV partners to pay equal share of the revenue right now for up to six schools added to the league.”

 

[Exit 4]

I still dont believe 6 is the number under the tv contract. It seems odd to be hearing 6 at this late stage.

 

[Exit 4]

I think he means this article:

Longhorns Writer Says Texas Won't 'Stand In Way' Of Houston Joining Big 12

“I’m hearing that if they’re going to expand, it’s most likely going to be by four rather than two,” Brown said, “because of provisions in the TV contract that call for the TV partners to pay equal share of the revenue right now for up to six schools added to the league.”

I found that story hardly encouraging. Instead I read "football...football...football...coaches...blossom...football football."

 

[Kevin Caliendo]

Its not going to end well for UConn, me fears. BYU and Boise football only, Houston and Cincy all sports.
la la la la la la

 

[buddy]

July 25, 2016

"Benedict said an intact American Conference is still a viable alternative should the Huskies be passed over by the Power Five. But he said the idea that UConn would consider rejoining the Big East for sports other than football is not currently on the table."

UConn AD Preps Big 12 Pitch - Athletic Business

Seems like he knows the answer already, I'm sorry to say.

 

[Exit 4]

Its not going to end well for UConn, me fears. BYU and Boise football only, Houston and Cincy all sports.
la la la la la la

Yes, I suddenly have a terrible feeling. BYU/UH/Cincy/[CSU/Memp/UCF].

While it doesn't present that way, maybe it can be viewed that BYU or UH took our spot. Our saving grace - the 3rd party media studies they did to frame this discussion paint us as a winner for tv $$$ which is what should matter for 2026+.

 

[DoctorWho85]

Too me it only seems Houston is being taking to prevent the SEC from coming calling. If this is about starting a legitimate television nextwork, then UCONN is the best option. It's mind blowing how much the Big XII looks like the old Big East in terms of decision making.

 

[whaler11]

Too me it only seems Houston is being taking to prevent the SEC from coming calling. If this is about starting a legitimate television nextwork, then UCONN is the best option. It's mind blowing how much the Big XII looks like the old Big East in terms of decision making.

It has nothing to do with starting a network.

 

[UConnJim]

Too me it only seems Houston is being taking to prevent the SEC from coming calling. If this is about starting a legitimate television nextwork, then UCONN is the best option. It's mind blowing how much the Big XII looks like the old Big East in terms of decision making.

The SEC is made up of the top school and perhaps the #2 school in their states. Houston? Doubtful. I would bet Texas and/or Oklahoma to the SEC over Houston.

 

[AZHuskiePop]

When The SEC can pretty much have anyone in Texas and Oklahoma
Their really going to grab Houston?
That's a red herring to rationalize a blatant political power play.
Some people just begged to be lied to.

 

[DoctorWho85]

It has nothing to do with starting a network.

So basically this is just a life boat after Titanic sank?

 

[Slasher]

It has nothing to do with starting a network.

Nor does it have anything to do with the SEC. Houston is already owned by the SEC because of Texas A&M, and they have the unwritten rule of not inviting another team from the same state.

 

[amory]

So basically this is just a life boat after Titanic sank?

It's about cashing in as much as possible before UT and OU split in 2024. Add 4 schools, get them to take a heavy discount, pocket the extra TV cash.

Beyond that, the measurements they use to pick schools are anyone's guess.

 

[DoctorWho85]

It's about cashing in as much as possible before UT and OU split in 2024. Add 4 schools, get them to take a heavy discount, pocket the extra TV cash.

Beyond that, the measurements they use to pick schools are anyone's guess.

So I thought this was all about the TV money and cable boxes to start a new network. At least that's what I got when I read all the statements from the conference. If that's not the case then I don't think UConn get's the nod.

 

[Fishy]

It's about cashing in as much as possible before UT and OU split in 2024. Add 4 schools, get them to take a discount, pocket the extra TV cash.

Beyond that, the measurements they use to pick schools are anyone's guess.

People keep saying that....but where are they going?

The Longhorn Network runs through 2030 and Oklahoma is a very iffy add when the SEC and Big Ten are pulling down the kind of money they will be pulling down in the mid-2020s.

 

[Marty Jackson]

FB only is not good for us. That would mean BYU is FB only, UH is in, and Cinco is in. Who else would be FB only? Tulane?

why can't it be 4 adds plus 2 FB only add's... Maybe that is where some people have heard or gotten 6 teams from?

 

[Slasher]

People keep saying that....but where are they going?

The Longhorn Network runs through 2030 and Oklahoma is a very iffy add when the SEC and Big Ten are pulling down the kind of money they will be pulling down in the mid-2020s.

OU to SEC makes good sense for all sides. But it comes back to the who's #16 question?

 

[SAMCRO]

OU to SEC makes good sense for all sides. But it comes back to the who's #16 question?

SEC will have their pick of #16, but most likely Kansas (renew their rivalry with Mizzou). They wil be the Kentucky of the SEC West

 

[Fishy]

OU to SEC makes good sense for all sides. But it comes back to the who's #16 question?

In the past, I would agree.

Now...not so much.

First, Oklahoma is a very small state. In terms of eyeballs, you're not going to make back the investment in OU by selling the SEC Network in Oklahoma.

Second, you're not going to appreciably enhance the conference's reputation by inviting OU. As good as they are, the SEC is already held in higher regard than the NFC South.

Third, Oklahoma State. They are politically tied together tighter than any two schools. No one is paying $100,000,000 a year to lock down the state of Oklahoma.

If Boren was simply trying to run out the clock, he would not be calling for expansion, making noise about having options, etc. I think he knows the metrics have changed and they're not in his favor the way they once might have been. And remember, even when all this started, the PAC10 was unwilling to take Oklahoma unless Texas was involved.

 

[JSM1970]

Yes and likely UT joins ACC as either full member or something close to ND

the AAC might be better than the B12 w/o UT, KU or OU honestly

SEC will have their pick of #16, but most likely Kansas (renew their rivalry with Mizzou). They wil be the Kentucky of the SEC West

 

[Dream Jobbed 2.0]

why can't it be 4 adds plus 2 FB only add's... Maybe that is where some people have heard or gotten 6 teams from?

I mean that's a possibility but not a strong one.

 

[uconnphil2016]

I really don't think Aresco knows the outcome for sure. Probably has an idea, but I really doubt anyone knows yet, perhaps even the big xii hasn't made up its mind yet. In any case, the idea of having multiple aac teams leave is good for us. I doubt expansion would be just two teams, which means it's likely four. Football only is obviously BYU, and I have trouble believing Boise state could get in. I really think it's three American teams and BYU football only.

 

[Slasher]

In the past, I would agree.

Now...not so much.

First, Oklahoma is a very small state. In terms of eyeballs, you're not going to make back the investment in OU by selling the SEC Network in Oklahoma.

Second, you're not going to appreciably enhance the conference's reputation by inviting OU. As good as they are, the SEC is already held in higher regard than the NFC South.

Third, Oklahoma State. They are politically tied together tighter than any two schools. No one is paying $100,000,000 a year to lock down the state of Oklahoma.

If Boren was simply trying to run out the clock, he would not be calling for expansion, making noise about having options, etc. I think he knows the metrics have changed and they're not in his favor the way they once might have been. And remember, even when all this started, the PAC10 was unwilling to take Oklahoma unless Texas was involved.

It's 28th out of 50, right in the middle. Is there any actual proof that those two are politically tied together other than the speculation we've heard?

 

[UConnTrumbull]

There's one tweet I saw today that stood out to me the most. Gordon Gee tweeted that he is on vacation next week (cruise to Alaska). Could mean nothing but then I got thinking. If the B12 needed to make some kind of decision soon, wouldn't the presidents be around this week? The alternative is that they already have their choices made up. If there's no announcement made next week then I think it means this decision goes late into August maybe even September. I kind of just want this all to end. It's messing with my well being.

 

[Exit 4]

I bet Umass sends their AD to hang in the parking lot in Newport next week. I'm sure his schedule is wide open anyway.

 

[Chief00]

Big 12 prefers to decide on expansion teams before start of 2016 season

“The Big 12 would prefer to wrap up the expansion process before the start of the 2016 football season, three persons with knowledge of the ongoing process told CBS Sports on Thursday.”

As an had said " This Summer"

 

[businesslawyer]

Maybe UConn and Cincy as full members, BYU and Houston as FB only? That may be a compromise on the "expansion only happens if Houston is included" insistence of the TX politicians.

Or maybe they go major expansion and have UConn, Cincy, Houston, and UCF as full members...with BYU and Boise St as FB only members.

Those are the only two scenarios in which FB only is a good thing for UConn. I just don't see UConn accepting a FB only invite.

Football only would be a win-win if we go back to the Big East in everything else, and more than o.k. If we go to the A-Ten in everything else, so long as we get to be a full member if the P-5 ever splits from Division 1 in other sports. BUT IT'S NOT HAPPENING. The Big XII is not going to buy the cow just so it can give the milk away for free. And our ability to deliver Metro NY (in small part) to the XII requires we be a member in hoops.

 

[ramses 2.0]

The B12 network is a pipe dream as long as the LHN exist & neither ESPN or UT have any incentive to change that. OU & OSU make sense for the SEC when you factor in their large presence of grads in Texas especially DFW & OU is a college blue blood just like NU was for the B1G, so population of the state is not a factor with them

 

[businesslawyer]

talked about BYU getting FB, men's and women's hoops

That could make sense for UConn too and b12 if they are UConn's partner and then UH, Cincy for all sports

Being in the XII for "only" football and basketball is a total win. Hockey and soccer aren't Big XII sports, and while I'd rather baseball in the XII than the Big East or A-Ten, I don't really care. As for every other sport, it makes perfect sense not to leave our geographic region.

 

[businesslawyer]

He was pumping Houston like a line above.

LOL. Aresco won't know before the school's know, and we'll know within ten minutes of the school's knowing.